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    I was taken aback by Daesh's involvement, so my "spider senses" could be wrong here, but it feels like this is a regression - like Daesh is going back to its AQ roots. Those tactics did not work for AQ (except perhaps in Spain), why would they believe they will work now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Actually not bad for the first pass.......
    Thanks. I hope to add to the predictions section soon

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    On a seperate note, the French President has twice stated that France is "at war." Any guesses on if France will invoke Article 5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    I was taken aback by Daesh's involvement, so my "spider senses" could be wrong here, but it feels like this is a regression - like Daesh is going back to its AQ roots. Those tactics did not work for AQ (except perhaps in Spain), why would they believe they will work now?
    Fully agree this smacks to much and from the Z..... days of 2005 before he was bombed.

    There is some indications that while IS has roughly 25K figthters they are slowly losing ground and just holding onto what they phsyically now control.

    The USAF is killing them them at a rate of 1.2K per month which just about off sets their recruitment flow into Iraq and Syria.

    Yesterday the so called actual AQ group JaN killed the leader and his entire staff of a IS offshoot in southern Syria and thus eliminated IS from southern Syria.

    And the SDF and YGP is in the process of cutting their supply lines from Turkey--so are the bombings a lashout to distract from their major setbacks---think so actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Fully agree this smacks to much and from the Z..... days of 2005 before he was bombed.

    There is some indications that while IS has roughly 25K figthters they are slowly losing ground and just holding onto what they phsyically now control.

    The USAF is killing them them at a rate of 1.2K per month which just about off sets their recruitment flow into Iraq and Syria.

    Yesterday the so called actual AQ group JaN killed the leader and his entire staff of a IS offshoot in southern Syria and thus eliminated IS from southern Syria.

    And the SDF and YGP is in the process of cutting their supply lines from Turkey--so are the bombings a lashout to distract from their major setbacks---think so actually.
    This is actually far more worrisome.........massive number of Shia terrorists ie IRGC, Hezbollah and or Iraqi militia fighters are now in the EU as so called "refugees".

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    And another one .......another one and another one and on and on.....
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    Even while under attack from the French SF unit in the hostage theater--the jihadis were professional and fought back.

    Check the shot pattern and that with an AK47......

    One of the ballistic shields used by BRI received 27 impacts during #ParisAttacks, via @itele h/t to @CTstudies
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    Russian disinformation to make it look like the entire West is now supporting Putins IS anti terror campaign.

    SputnikInt not the first time they faked Hollandes statements..


    And @SputnikInt's headline makes the lie even more obvious than the mistranslated quote alone.
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    Little work of art in KGB-owned @Independent:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6736526.html … pic.twitter.com/RlNJRbLKNm
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    On a seperate note, the French President has twice stated that France is "at war." Any guesses on if France will invoke Article 5?
    Seriously doubt it--it takes all 28 members to say yes before they do anything--for a simple change of a single word in a recent doctrinal FM--took 2.5 yrs to get the 28 onboard with the single word change.

    Besides outside of the US the French AF is the second strongest in NATO and they are already flying mission sets.

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    bellingcat ‏@bellingcat
    We believe we've found the Facebook of Bilal Hadfi, one of the Paris attackers

    https://www.facebook.com/bellingcat/...62798013908655

    Interesting as it proves that he was a Takfirist.....
    Belgium Brahim Abdeslam, one of the #ParisAttacks suicide attackers had a pub in Molenbeek, a front to sell drugs.
    http://www.lecho.be/dossier/attaques...&ts=1447674878
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    Ex MI6 Head Sir John Sawers tells #c4news: ISIL will want to provoke hostility to refugees and see the rise of the far right across Europe

    Syrian 'refugee passport' may have been planted by terrorists, say investigators @Indyworld
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    Something to this comment.......

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    But it's "Hey quick launch an op!” when the ISIS bombs explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ex MI6 Head Sir John Sawers tells #c4news: ISIL will want to provoke hostility to refugees and see the rise of the far right across Europe

    Syrian 'refugee passport' may have been planted by terrorists, say investigators @Indyworld
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    I was with you on this, but it seems that, at a minimum, the person who registered in Greese was the same person who was blown up.

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    "French officials have determined that the bomber was among a group of Syrian refugees who arrived on the Greek island of Leros on October 3."

    The date he arrived provides an element of a timeline for the attack. Based on that timeline, the question is: "did he come to Europe with the plans for the attack or was he simply an oportunist who joined an operation already in progress. If he was a key figure I would not assume that he would blow himself up, so the date he arrived may not be terribly helpful.

    I would like to know when they started this, becuase it is a departure from the normal attacks that have been limited to the middle east.
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    Default '#NousSommesUnis’ - or ‘#WeAreUnited’.

    One wonders what impact this will have on the French people, especially those thinking of voting for Marie Le pen next year:
    A group of Muslim students in France has released a powerful video calling for ‘firmness in the fight against terrorism’ after almost 130 people from 15 nations were killed in a series of terrorist attacks across Paris three days ago. The group called Etudiants Musulmans de France (EMF) - or Muslim Students of France - took to its website to express its ‘dismay, sadness, and emotion in the aftermath of the tragedy that took place on 13 November’.

    Link to report:http://www.independent.co.uk/student...-a6736401.html and the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUCMBuAQNs
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    Default The Islamic State seems to be at war with the entire world.

    Clints Watts weighs in, thanks to WoTR and concludes:
    By contrast, the Islamic State seems to be at war with the entire world. Is this targeting logic the result of some crazed apocalyptic ideological thinking? Or does this broad targeting come from a lack of command, control, and direction the Islamic State has over its rapidly acquired affiliates and legions of networked fan boys who demand action first and strategy second? Until we understand the answer to these questions, it will be difficult to know whether the Islamic State really is one big organization or to anticipate where the group might strike next. The aftermath of the Paris attacks and the upcoming investigation will certainly be quite revealing of this dynamic.
    Link:http://warontherocks.com/2015/11/wha...slamic-state/?

    Will McCants has a substantial piece on ISIS on FP, but it is behind a registration wall:https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/16...-actual-state/
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    BREAKING: #Russia FSB Chief: Improvised explosives equivalent to 1.5 KG of TNT went off in #MetroJet flight #A321

    Putin promises to find and punish those behind the bombing just as he promised to find those that shot down MH17.....oh wait on the shot down of MH17 --it was those nasty Ukrainian Nazi's.....

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    Video has emerged of 'Stade de France bomber' clapping and dancing at Serbia camp
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    'Idiots': ISIS responds to Anonymous threatening its 'biggest operation ever' against them

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    An ISIS-affiliated account on the messaging app Telegram has sent out a message about Anonymous' threat to launch its "biggest operation ever" against the terrorist group.

    After the Paris terror attacks on Friday that left at least 129 people dead and hundreds more injured, the hacking collective Anonymous posted a video in which a person who claims to represent the group said, "Anonymous from all over the world will hunt you down."

    "We will launch the biggest operation ever against you," the masked person said. "Expect massive cyberattacks. War is declared. Get prepared."

    A Telegram channel that's believed to be affiliated with ISIS hackers then sent out a message to its followers instructing them how to prevent getting hacked by Anonymous.

    "The #Anonymous hackers threatened in new video release that they will carry out a major hack operation on the Islamic state (idiots)," the statement read in part.

    ISIS then asks: "what they gonna hack?," noting that so far Anonymous has just hacked ISIS-affiliated Twitter accounts and emails.

    The message goes on to provide "instructions" on how to avoid potential hacks: Don't open any links unless sure of the source. Change Internet Protocol addresses "constantly." And "do not talk to people [you] don't know on Telegram" or through Twitter direct messaging.

    The message, which was posted in both Arabic and English, was then forwarded around to various other ISIS-affiliated Telegram channels.

    Anonymous started targeting extremists in January after the terror attacks on the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo. The hackers worked to identify ISIS-linked social media accounts and take down extremist websites.

    ISIS supporters also used Telegram channels affiliated with the group to coordinate a social media response to the Paris attacks on Friday:
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    For 2 days after A-321 crash, Putin didn't say a word.
    18 days later, a minute's silence.
    http://lifenews.ru/news/170249
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    AFP and Le Figaro reporting that Syrian passport found near Stade de France belongs to Assad soldier dead for months http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/20...ete.php#102541
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    In this case it seems that likely the majority of the killers grew up in Europe with some of them having chosen to be fight for Islamic groups in various places. At least one was also comitted also minor crimes and was thus known to the police.

    According to Wikipedia:

    Some of the attackers were known to law enforcement officials prior to the attacks, and at least some of the attackers had residences in an area in Belgium that is noted for its links to extremist activities. A counter-terrorism expert said that the fact that the perpetrators were known to authorities suggests that intelligence was "pretty good" but the ability to act on it was lacking. The number of Europeans who have links to Syria makes it difficult for security services to keep track of them all.[171]
    Clearly the large number poses big problems. Maybe somebody has a link to a breakdown of the patterns of live concerning the terrorists involved in the attacks of the last years. Of course new ones might emerge and likely will but so far there seem quite a lot of similarities among the perpetrators.
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    What is up in Germany? False alarm? Related?

    Germany vs Holland has been cancelled after a suspect package was found inside the Hannover stadium.

    Local police told supporters "please go home quickly without panic" and the arena was evacuated.

    Security had been heightened after Friday's terror attacks in Paris, which included a suicide bomber detonating outside the France vs Germany game at the Stade de France.

    Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, had been due to attend the game.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...celled-6849390

    Germany and the Netherlands were supposed to play a soccer match in Hannover on Tuesday, but it was called off about 90 minutes before kickoff after police found a suspicious object inside the stadium, which was evacuated.




    What exactly composed the suspicious object, however, is being debated. German media is reporting that police received “concrete” information about a bomb threat and that the Hannover police confirmed an explosive device on the premises.

    [Germany, Belgium cancel soccer matches; bomb threats cited]

    In a press conference held later, however, German officials denied any explosive device had been found, according to The Washington Post’s Charles Lane.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ium-evacuated/
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