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    Default 3-7 cav?

    Hi Brent,

    From a cursory search of the internet, it looks like you were in 3-7 CAV. As I did some time in 1-64 AR, I'm a bit familiar with your unit, and I would state with some authority that 3-7 CAV was conducting COIN operations starting in 2003. Jason Fritz and Mike Burgoyne would probably disagree with you as well.

    From the unit's history,

    Combat operations for Operation Iraqi Freedom began on March 20th when the squadron crossed into Iraq as the lead element of the 3ID. The Squadron attacked to Baghdad fighting both the Republican Guard and the Sadam Fedayeen. It was the longest cavalry charge in the history of the world and it ended in the capture of Baghdad.

    With the capture of Baghdad, the Division and the Squadron transitioned to stabilization operations. By the time the Squadron had redeployed it had killed 2,200 Iraqi personnel, 64 tanks, 41 armored vehicles, numerous active air defense systems, as well as trucks and civilian vehicles used as suicide bombers.

    The Squadron was reassigned to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division in 2004 and as the Brigade's Armored Reconnaissance Squadron. Combat operations for Operation Iraqi Freedom III began on February 4, 2005 when the Squadron arrived at Forward Operating Base Rustamiyah located in southeast Baghdad. Immediately upon arrival, the Squadron began patrolling the area east of the Tigris River in the Rusafa and New Baghdad districts as well as securing Route Pluto North, one of the primary supply routes for the Division.

    The Squadron played a major role in the success of the Mada'in Province. The Squadron was first assigned to this area in April 2005 after the police station in Salman Pak had been destroyed by insurgents and many police officers had been killed. The Squadron immediately brought security to the area and facilitated the local governance to flourish.

    When the Squadron redeployed in January 2006, it had conducted over 5,500 combat patrols throughout southeastern Baghdad in an area of operations that covered 500 square kilometers. The Squadron also detained over 150 insurgents making the streets safer for the people of Iraq.
    So, how is this not COIN?

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    I guess invasion, occupation and subsequent suppression of popular resistance to the same has a little "COIN" in it...
    Robert C. Jones
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    "The modern COIN mindset is when one arrogantly goes to some foreign land and attempts to make those who live there a lesser version of one's self. The FID mindset is when one humbly goes to some foreign land and seeks first to understand, and then to help in some small way for those who live there to be the best version of their own self." Colonel Robert C. Jones, US Army Special Forces (Retired)

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    Default Also Jon Custis

    who has a down to earth Worldview



    and who can provide you with a Marine's view of conventional and "COIN" warfare in Iraq, from 2003 on.

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    Default Iraq War and Marine's View

    Talk to Bing West, read his books...his anaylsis is spot on (at least in my opinion) because he startes at the eyeball to eyeball level of war and moves it to the strategic very effectively. In addition, he has spent a considerable amount of time with the Army and can compare and contrast approaches and tactics.
    "If you want a new idea, look in an old book"

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    Cpt Trav. Abu Risha.AQI losing their ever loving banning smokes and killing little kids Bing West almost got me killed by a retired/recalled LtCol lookin for snipers with his shotgun and his Uah window down. Regional training academies and tribal engagement Potus to Sheiks my brain drizzle

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    I think Thomas Daly's book "Rage Company" may be worth a look as it comes from the Marine perspective. Its pre Awakening and moves on to the Awakening in Ramadi. I used it in my MA thesis as a source.

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