Results 1 to 20 of 41

Thread: India's military (catch all)

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    861

    Default

    The full text is also posted on our blog (brownpundits.com)

    http://brownpundits.blogspot.com/201...-bluestar.html

  2. #2
    Council Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Calcutta, India
    Posts
    1,124

    Default

    As reported in 'The Indian Express' on May 8 by Consulting Editor Seema Chishti, the book goes on to say: "It is inconceiveable that they could have done so without Indira Gandhi's consent. Sanjay and Zail Singh believed that by advocating extremist causes the young preacher would embarrass the Akali Dal. Precisely, the reverse happened. Bhindranwale soon turned into a classic Frankenstein's monster and embarked upon devouring his creators."

    "Dirty politics and the use of religion for political ends clearly boomeranged on the Akali and Congress leadership with disastrous consequences for the Sikh community and the Indian state" the book says commenting on the situation in the aftermath of the Operation Blue Star.

    Noting that Congress emerged as the single largest party in the state assembly in the 1972 elections and formed a government headed by Zail Singh, the book says, "by introducing a religious tone to Punjab politics, Giani succeeded to a great extent in weakening the Akalis. But the result--growing communalisation of provincial politics—was disastrous."

    The book notes that Zail Singh organised one of the biggest religious processions "in order to secure Sikh votes for Congress".
    http://archive.indianexpress.com/new...s-book/797608/
    The whole mess of Punjab was the result of political oneupmanship that went out of control.

    May also see this for a more detailed summary of the issues that led to Op Bluestar:

    http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/public...falsehood4.htm
    Last edited by Ray; 06-05-2014 at 08:57 AM.

  3. #3
    Council Member davidbfpo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    13,366

    Default

    The widely respcted, former BBC India correspondent, Mark Tully gives his own memories of the time and reflects on what has happened since:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-disaster.html
    davidbfpo

  4. #4
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Several people have been injured after Sikh groups brandishing swords clashed at India's Golden Temple as special prayers were held to mark the deadly military offensive there in 1984.

    Reports said the fight at Sikhism's holiest shrine was over who would speak first at the ceremony and that a scuffle broke out over a microphone.

    Footage showed men running down temple steps lashing out with their swords.

    Reports said at least three people had been taken to hospital with injuries.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812

  5. #5
    Council Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Calcutta, India
    Posts
    1,124

    Default

    Good to see you here.

    It is all politics and quest for supremacy.

  6. #6
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Good to see you here.

    It is all politics and quest for supremacy.
    Swords are not allowed in the US Senate, but there was a time canes were allowed.

    http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/...les_Sumner.htm

  7. #7
    Council Member davidbfpo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    13,366

    Default Sword play

    Many, many years ago on a MP-guided tour of the UK Parliament we were shown a coat rack for MPs, complete with tassles to hang swords on. In the House of Commons the front benches are just out of immediate sword range.

    See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line and http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2013...om-parliament/
    davidbfpo

  8. #8
    Council Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Calcutta, India
    Posts
    1,124

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WGEwald View Post
    Swords are not allowed in the US Senate, but there was a time canes were allowed.

    http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/...les_Sumner.htm
    Sikhs by religion are allowed to carry kirpans (small swords) and now they wear representative miniature swords.

    But then, some feel that they are a law unto themselves.

    Like you chaps are politically sensitive to racial terminology like the N word, in India, as you must have realised we have the same squeamishness when it comes to 'minorities'.

    Check this out

    THE LANGUAGE OF DIFFERENCE
    - Social attitudes and their changing vocabularies
    http://www.telegraphindia.com/archives/archive.html (Link may not work, see next post)

    Note that in India one can speak out without fear or favour.

    I am sure this article will get some angry and some placating responses in India.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 06-08-2014 at 10:23 PM. Reason: add note re link

  9. #9
    Council Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Calcutta, India
    Posts
    1,124

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    The widely respcted, former BBC India correspondent, Mark Tully gives his own memories of the time and reflects on what has happened since:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-disaster.html
    Ah Sir Mark!

    Lord Haw Haw.
    Last edited by Ray; 06-07-2014 at 11:11 AM.

Similar Threads

  1. The Clausewitz Collection (merged thread)
    By SWJED in forum Futurists & Theorists
    Replies: 933
    Last Post: 03-19-2018, 02:38 PM
  2. French military (catch all)
    By AdamG in forum Europe
    Replies: 99
    Last Post: 01-19-2018, 01:31 PM
  3. Replies: 808
    Last Post: 12-09-2017, 06:27 PM
  4. Crimes, War Crimes and the War on Terror
    By davidbfpo in forum Law Enforcement
    Replies: 600
    Last Post: 03-03-2014, 04:30 PM
  5. MCOs and SSOs in the 2008 edition of FM 3-0 Operations
    By Norfolk in forum Doctrine & TTPs
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 03-17-2008, 12:15 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •