Quote Originally Posted by Uboat509 View Post
Bottom line is that the Catholic Church is not a social welfare organization. They want to make the world better for everyone but not at the expense of their core beliefs. As Schmedlap already noted, they believe that the consequences of compromising their beiliefs in order to accomidate what they see as sinful behavior is worse than the consequnces of the behavior itself. This is not arrogance, it's faith, whether you agree with it or not.

SFC W
Whle it is true the Chuch is not a welfare organization, it does sell itself as such, especially in Africa. As for uncompromising beliefs the Church has made repeated moral compromises over the years. If you consider Africa and rwanda in particular, the Church closed ranks around priests and nuns who were involved in genocide.

A stance based on faith with regards to the nature of condoms as a form of birth control in the face of a pandemic that is spread in Africa's case through largely heterosexual contact is to me arrogance, whether faith based or not.

We will have to agree to disagree

Tom