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    The Nazi's loved methamphetamine - dosed their chocolates with the stuff. Hitler took multiple amphetamine shots a day. The Japanese distributed the stuff pretty widely too.
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    Does Russian vodka and Somali Khat count, too?


    The Incas chewed coca a lot and IIRC the Zulus and other extremely foot-mobile African tribe armies made use of some chewing stuff, too.

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    Default Performance enhancing, not degrading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Does Russian vodka […] count, too?
    Though in all seriousness I do understand the role of alcohol as a coping mechanism, even if it is not the optimal choice. I have always assumed that all of the drinking in Beowulf had something to do with anxiety over the possibility of Grendel showing up.

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    The Incas chewed coca a lot
    The Quechua still do, as well as consume coca tea. It’s supposed to help with life at altitude. I don’t know that there have been any good studies about that, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    IIRC the Zulus and other extremely foot-mobile African tribe armies made use of some chewing stuff, too.
    There’s kola nut in West Africa.

    Also worth noting that the nicotine content of Nicotiana rustica (the “wild tobacco” traditionally used by American Indians) is around 9% as compared to the 1%–3% of cultivated tobacco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ganulv View Post
    Though in all seriousness I do understand the role of alcohol as a coping mechanism, even if it is not the optimal choice.

    It's an ancient bravery-enhancement drink.

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    Default “A shot of courage”

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    It's an ancient bravery-enhancement drink.
    as my sometimes sober friends say.
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    Curious, is steroid use common in combat arms units? I've heard whispers in cadet land but it's nearly impossible to seperate the solid info from the bs here

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cuyahoga Kid View Post
    Curious, is steroid use common in combat arms units? I've heard whispers in cadet land but it's nearly impossible to seperate the solid info from the bs here
    I cannot say that it never happens but it is most definitely not sanctioned. I have seen more than one guy get hammered over steroid use. Guys on steroids tend to be emotionally labile and they also tend to focus on strength and size at the expense of endurance which is more important than pure strength.
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