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    If American diplomats are not behaving according to local law, then the local law is responsible.
    This is a valid point.

    The Indian Govt rolls over and plays dead all the time.

    It sudden waking up does indicate that the ruling political party, which is down in the dumps and has lost four State election wants to project that it has suddenly developed courage to assert itself!

    Where were they when China and Pakistan heaped the indignities?

    The removing of special privilege to the US and its Embassy and Consulate staff or removing barriers should have been done long ago, so that there was a level playing field for all, since most countries are under the threat of terrorism.

    There is hardly any positive movement from either side of 'strategic partnership' beyond the cosmetic.

    Therefore, according special privileges not accorded to other nation is pointless.
    Last edited by Ray; 12-19-2013 at 04:17 PM.

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    This is a valid issue that requires attention

    Article 47
    EXEMPTION FROM WORK PERMITS

    1. Members of the consular post shall, with respect to services rendered for the sending State, be exempt from any obligations in regard to work permits imposed by the laws and regulations of the receiving State concerning the employment of foreign labour.

    2. Members of the private staff of consular officers and of consular employees shall, if they do not carry on any other gainful occupation in the receiving State, be exempt from the obligations referred to in paragraph 1 of this Article.

    http://www.mfa.gov.tr/data/Kutuphane...rRelations.pdf


    The maid was on an official passport.

    Her demand was also to get her a normal passport.

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    both prosecutor



    and accused



    were born in India.

    This is a Federal case - not a NY state case (not NYC cops and prosecutors). If you are familiar with current US Marshal Service procedures for arrest and detention (I'm not), you can tell whether guidelines were met or not. The following is from the Wiki, based on media accounts; only provides a framework and has to be confirmed by reference to the court documents:

    Charges on Devyani Khobragade

    Devyani Khobragade was charged on December 11, 2013, by a Special Agent with the United States Department of State, Diplomatic Security Service. The charge alleges that Khobragade committed Visa Fraud willfully and under penalty of perjury under Title 28, United States Code, Section 1746. It further alleges that Khobragade submitted an employment contract to the U.S. Department of State, in support of a visa application filed by Khobragade for another individual, which she knew to contain materially false and fraudulent statements[16].

    Under the verbal agreement in India, it is alleged, Khobragade agreed to pay a starting salary of 25,000 rupees per month, plus an additional 5,000 rupees for overtime. Based on exchange rate at that time 30,000 rupees is equivalent to $573.07 U.S. dollars[16] which at 40 hours per week equates to a rate of $3.31 per hour.

    In the visa application form submitted on October 15, 2012, however, Khobragade made a statement that she would be paying Sangeeta around $4,500 per month, the complaint says.[16]

    Also Khobragade executed a contract with Sangeeta Richard which stipulated her hourly salary in the U.S. would be $9.75 and that the normal working hours per week shall be 40. This contract was submitted to the U.S. government as part of the visa application. Khobragade also instructed her not to say anything to the embassy interviewer about being paid 30,000 rupees per month.[16]

    It is alleged that shortly before departing to the airport in India, Khobragade asked Richard to sign another employment contract, which was not to be revealed to the U.S. government.[17] As per this contract she was to be paid an expected salary of Rs. 30,000 per month.[16]

    Arrest

    Based on the charges filed by by a Special Agent with the United States Department of State, Diplomatic Security Service, the United States Magistrate Judge Debra Freeman issued an arrest warrant against Khobragade. Khobragade was arrested in New York on December 12, 2013 by United States Marshals after she dropped her daughter at school[18].

    She was later handcuffed; strip searched, which allegedly included a cavity search[19] and confined with other prisoners after her detention. Khobragade was detained for six hours and released on a $250,000 bond after pleading not guilty and surrendering her passport.[2][3][5][6]

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    On December 18, 2013, John Kerry expressed regret over the arrest and strip-search of the Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade and empathised as a father of two daughters at similar age as Khobragade. [20]

    Manhattan federal prosecutor Preet Bharara whose office had filed the charges,[21][22] defended the handling of the arrest and custody, though his office was not involved. He claimed that Khobragade was accorded courtesies well beyond what other defendants, most of whom are American citizens, are accorded. [17]
    (footnotes in original).

    The official DoJ (Southern District of New York) statement deals with the prosecution, and not directly with the whys and wherefores of the original complainant, the reviewing magistrate and the arresting officers.

    The complaint is here - two counts.

    18 USC § 1546 - Fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents.

    18 USC § 1001 - Statements or entries generally.

    18 USC § 1002 - Possession of false papers to defraud United States.

    These are 5-10 year felonies.

    BTW: I tend to agree with Ray about the almost terminal stupidity of the US DoS when it comes to India - an opinion developed over the years (which takes us far from this case - or the 1971 war, for that matter).

    And, John Kerry, again tries to own both sides of an issue, Devyani Khobragade Row: Secretary Of State John Kerry Expresses ‘Regret,’ While US Prosecutor Defends The Arrest (by Amrutha Gayathri, December 19 2013). Does Mr Kerry disown the complaint brought by his own department's Mark Smith? Not that I can see. So, we have something of a "non-regret, regret".

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