View Poll Results: Frederick Kagan's Plan for Iraq?

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    Default ... the hordes are at our walls.

    These are all hard issues, far beyond the scope of anything suitable for a blog. Also, they are important issues wrapped in fog -- so that many views are reasonable and can be well supported.

    I disagree with you on most of these points (but could easily be wrong). As I have written, we're in great danger -- but mostly from our own arrogance, hubris, and suicidal economic policies. For more on that see …

    http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/fabius_enemies.htm

    http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/fabius_fore...2006_part2.htm

    Re: intel & ROE’s

    I suspect -- based mostly on history and news accounts, not a reliable base -- that our intel assets in Iraq are grossly inadequate to our need. In Malaysia the Brits had a century to develop familiarity with the people, and build intel sources. We've had at most 3 years, assuming we started fast (which I doubt).

    The ROE debate has been hashed over in Iraq and almost every previous colonial war. The loser -- the colonial power -- ratchets up the ROE's. It never works. It's a sign of failed strategic and tactical thinking, in my opinion.

    The French fought the Hundred Years War using outdated doctrines. Three great defeats on battlefield, almost carbon copies of each other, monuments to human stubbornness and inability to change.

    Let's not try to beat their record. 4GW is here, and the old methods no longer work. Radical change is necessary. Are we up to the challenge?

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    Default a look at some of our options in Iraq (fyi)

    These overlap with those discussed in Kagan's proposal.

    part 1 (only the first page is relevant here, as an overview))
    http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/fabius_iraq...006_part_I.htm

    Part 2 -- options for Iraq
    http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/fabius_iraq...06_part_II.htm

    Part 3 -- more options
    http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/fabius_iraq...6_part_III.htm

    Part 4 -- my proposal, coming soon.

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