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    Guess, that's 'evidence' that my ideas in this case wouldn't work, right?
    My evidence to support my assumptions is that there are over 100 different groups (probably way more than that) in Syria. No leader is able to consolidate power through his ideology and vision.

    While no group has the winning narrative, the Islamists have narrative that resonates more with young men because the Islamists demonstrate both military capability and a vision that appeals to young men who don't have the capacity yet to use history to inform their thinking to anticipate what the repercussions will be if the Islamists actually win.

    If we removed Assad, and we probably should have after he used chemical weapons, it would be a free for all for king of the hill that would result in continued bloodshed, perhaps worse than it is now, with no foreseeable end. The most likely winner in the long run would be the Islamists unless external powers intervene, but the Islamists wouldn't be able to control the entire country, so the war would continue and it would destabilize the region as a whole.

    I'll now argue against myself, the region is becoming destabilized anyway, neither Assad, al-Nusra, ISIS, or the minority moderates can win at this point, so to bring this to a head the region needs to intervene militarily to either:

    A. Greatly reduce the strength of ISIS, which in turn empowers al-Nusra (AQ) and Assad.

    B. Remove Assad, which may free up al-Nusra and other groups to direct their power towards ISIS.

    C. Put LH and Iran in checkmate, but I don't know how we would.

    D. Support Assad and return the status quo which is morally reprehensible after he gassed his people.

    Of course morality changes with time. We certainly had no qualms deliberately attacking civilians in WWII in both Germany and Japan with fire bombs to compel the nation to stop fighting and surrender non-conditionally. Assad is doing the same, but in 2014 we don't find that acceptable. I agree it isn't acceptable, but it isn't entirely irrational either.
    Last edited by Bill Moore; 08-28-2014 at 01:59 AM.

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