Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
True, but they have no problem attempting to impose their concept of "popular sovereignty" on other states under the guise of Universal Human Rights.
For me that would fall under using the UN as a tool for the national interest.

I am not sure that is accurate. What some would view as non-democratic leaders get elected all the time. But I do believe that is how "non-democratic" states see it. The main threat coming from the "popular sovereignty" contingent who would limit any regime's ability to impose its will on its population in ways democratic leaders might not be openly willing to agree with.
I used those terms pretty loosely. By democratic I mean governments where the people actually have a stake in the government and in government policy.


I still have to agree with others here that we are better off with it than without it. That does not mean that it could not stand a little tweaking.
I don't want to get rid of the UN either, I just think we need to be cognizant of its limits.