Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
Moving from the USA to Germany regarding organised crime, specifically biker gangs. First a news report (background to site not researched, perhaps our German readers can assist there? It appears anti-establishment):http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/37/37477/1.html

Oddly the official German state response appears to have "leaked" to the Hells Angels; the cited report is in German and its size defies Google translation:
Many words with little actual content or a specific accusation.

The author sounds as if he's still under the influence of the experience how certain politicians and authorities pushed for internet censorship under the most flimsy justifications, which were clearly disproved by activists.

( http://boingboing.net/2010/09/30/onl...sites-blo.html )
heise.de - being a news blog with emphasis on internet stuff - kept its readers informed about the so far abortive plans to censor the internet in a way that most traditional media did not; it was leaning against the plans, as was the vast majority of people who had an idea how the internet works and what internet users are capable of.

The authorities (ranging from city top leadership of police to federal minister of the interior) have tested the patience and tolerance of Germans with lots of domestic spying, data collection and even censorship proposals for the last ten years. Lots of people have reacted with adopting a rather critical stance towards this domestic security establishment (which, btw, failed spectacularly in some cases).

It's a bit similar to the far left wing suspicions about police and authorities from the 70's and 80's, but different. This time it's not about a political wing, but rather about a generational conflict.