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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    The lesson might just be to make your deals with, say, ChinaSatCom.
    Well if European satellite companies confiscated NileSat satellites because of pressure from European governments then presumably Chinese government pressure could prevent Chinese companies replacing NileSat with Chinese satellites?

    Whatever the countries of origin for the satellites, the same "or else" should apply if diplomacy and international agreement fails to confiscate improperly regulated satellites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    So we are to seize by military force/electronic warfare any satellite television station that broadcasts un-American/anti coalition material?
    The issue is inciting, organising, sponsoring terrorism, acts of war against us which are killing our people.

    Broadcasting peaceful, non-threatening material is not the issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    Even if this is possible
    It's physically possible OK.

    Satellites can be
    • jammed by overloading the satellite receiver with a high intensity signal (possible, been done)
    • zapped with a laser (possible, not sure if been done)
    • robot wars in space - a killer satellite that hunts down prey satellites (possible, not sure if been done)
    • blasting with anti-satellites missiles (possible, been done but litters orbit with debris)


    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    how would you respond to people pointing out that the 'murica violated the sovereignty of states and seized the private property of numerous countries around the globe.
    Well the general approach to defensive actions in the war on terror was outlined in the Bush Doctrine.

    A state or a commercial company should not expect to have its wishes to use its state or private property to kill people respected. It should expect to be stopped, one way or another.

    We should respond to those killers thus.

    If you kill people using satellites and provide the lame excuse "Oh, it's state sovereignty", or "Oh, it's private property". It won't wash. It's not OK. It's never OK.

    If you kill our people then it's our responsibility, it's our business to stop you by any means necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    what if the tv station was german? or british?
    Well the NileSat satellites are provided for Egypt by European companies with German and British components, shareholders, facilities etc. but the French components are the biggest contributor country to those European satellite companies I believe.

    European national and European Union governments should impose tighter regulation of our own satellite TV industry to stop incitement to terrorism on satellites they make, sell or hire out.

    Europe, the USA and all responsible members of the international community ought to be looking to institute a global regulatory framework.

    It raises the same kinds of issues as regulating the arms industry. There are big profits to be made so companies would rather not be regulated and to hell with the consequences for peace and security.

    The big profits mean the companies can buy corrupt political influence to prevent responsible regulation.

    From a British republican perspective I would say that it is unrealistic to expect the United Kingdom with a very incompetent head of state, Queen Elizabeth, to be the state which leads the way to a solution of these issues.

    British republicans like myself with the internet can try to offer leadership in terms of education to the select few such as the members of this forum but the UK state in many ways is a viciously anti-British state so don't expect too much help from the kingdom.

    The people of Britain are being brainwashed to accept the harmful monarchy by state control of broadcasting the same way the Arab people are being incited to support terrorism by state control of broadcasting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    I dont mean to derail the thread towards the satellite plan.
    I don't think it is "derailing" the thread. Satellite TV is central to the issue of diplomatic security and the security of us all.

    Humanity will simply be unable to deliver security for the people while irresponsible states are prosecuting their wars globally using satellite TV.

    We need a blacklist of irresponsible states who simply are not allowed by the United Nations, by the international community, by the free world, to be states calling the shots with satellite TV.

    Yes those countries with blacklisted states can still have some channels broadcast on satellite TV - but only channels which are supervised by other states, by multinational organisations to ensure responsible broadcasting.
    Last edited by Peter Dow; 09-29-2012 at 01:15 PM.

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