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    Default Rural, troublesome, in bases, forget high-rise, let's do our best

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    I second that.

    U.S. embassies re already rather unpopular because of their often outrageous security demand affecting local traffic and their fortress-like appearance.
    You are describing embassies in capital cities. That's not what I am proposing. There's no traffic in the middle of the Libyan desert. Appearance doesn't matter when no-one is there to see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    I suggest to

    (1) Stick with the existing, already quite fortified embassies and consulates in calm countries.
    Agreed. My proposal is only for countries with a history of jihadi terrorist attacks against embassies and diplomats. So that might be only something like 10 countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    (2) Have embassies in troublesome countries only in places very close to police stations, army bases or buildings that can be expected to be well-secured (such as ruling party's headquarter, presidential palace etc); piggyback on existing security arrangements in order to boost the own security.
    Next to a military base etc would be no safer from a suicide bomber driving a truck bomb. Only placing an embassy within a military base, taking advantage of the perimeter defences of the military base would be much safer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    (3) Build consulates in troublesome countries only high in high-rise buildings (8+ floors). This does largely neutralise car bombs and makes it rather easy to stop even an armed mob (assuming elevators can be stopped). Preferably have a roof that's suitable for an evacuation by helicopter. Use a separated and CCTV-secured part of the garage.
    No it doesn't.



    Wikipedia: 1983 United States embassy bombing

    The 1983 U.S. embassy bombing was a suicide bombing against the United States embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, on April 18, 1983, that killed 63 people, mostly embassy and CIA staff members, several soldiers and one Marine. 17 of the dead were Americans.

    The car bomb was detonated by a suicide bomber driving a delivery van packed with about 2,000 pounds (910 kg) of explosives




    Wikipedia: Oklahoma City bombing

    The Oklahoma City bombing was a terrorist bomb attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Downtown Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. It would remain the most destructive act of terrorism on American soil until the September 11, 2001 attacks. The Oklahoma blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6[1] and injured more than 680 people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    (4) Demand public safety guarantees from host governments, local police chiefs/governors whenever the risk of riots or assaults is high.
    Such safety guarantees are easier given than delivered. What if the embassy gets bombed despite the guarantees? No doubt such safety guarantees have been sought and given in every case where an embassy has been bombed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    (5) Live with the fact that there is no 100% security anywhere or for anyone.
    Live with the fact that during a war on terror, diplomats do require competent military defences for embassies and consulates. Don't live with incompetent diplomatic security measures. Let's put 100% effort into making our diplomats as secure as they can be. We can only do our best but we should do at least that.
    Last edited by Peter Dow; 09-24-2012 at 07:31 PM.

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