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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    SratFor comments on the subject:

    http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/diplo...608fcc7da4867d


    Obviously not the last word on the subject (nothing ever is), but a real-world look at the situation and potentially some fodder for discussion.
    I would use blunter words to highlight the basic problem of diplomatic security. For example,

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stuart, Stratfor
    tensions with the Sandinista government in Nicaragua and its desire to keep the U.S. Embassy insecure.)
    I might say "its desire to terrorise the U.S. Embassy".

    In the war on terror we are dealing with states who do not wish our diplomats to be secure. They wish our diplomats and our people to be insecure so that they can terrorise or kill them for their political aims, such as to extort protection racket payments from us.

    The author omits to mention that basic building security in U.S. Embassies is provided by U.S. Marine Security Guards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    A Marine Security Guard or Marine Embassy Guard is a member of the the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group,[3] (formerly Marine Security Guard Battalion), a battalion-sized organization of U.S. Marines whose detachments provide security at American Embassies, American Consulates and other official United States Government offices such as the U.S. Interests Section in Havana, Cuba, or the United States Mission to NATO in Brussels, Belgium.
    While the author mentions that the U.S. State Department lacks enough Diplomatic Security Service special agents and doesn't have funds allocated to build a new secure embassy in Libya -

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stewart
    the 100 new special agents the Diplomatic Security Service is slated to hire this year will not be enough to replace those leaving the service.
    ..
    the construction of a new office building is nonetheless an expensive undertaking and something that the department cannot do under its current operating budget without the U.S. Congress allocating funds to pay for the construction project.
    - he fails to mention that in the real world the U.S. gives away billions in military aid. The top recipients in 2010 were -

    Country_______$U.S. millions
    Afghanistan ____6,800
    Israel__________2,800
    Egypt _________1,302
    Iraq___________1,006
    Pakistan_________914
    The only reliable ally in that list is Israel. The other countries are not reliable allies. If you have to pay for loyalty, it's not true loyalty. It's a protection racket.

    So if the U.S. quits giving military aid to those unreliable regimes that would save around $10 billion dollars a year and that's plenty to construct and run new fortress embassies wherever a threat of terrorism arises.

    By reallocating those funds, the U.S. could increase by multiple factors the size of the U.S. Marine Corps Embassy Security Group from its current tiny battalion size (800 people) to say division size (20,000) which it could use to defend newly built fortress U.S. Embassies where terrorism is a threat and where the war on terror is yet to be won.

    My plan calls for a battalion size of guard force to defend a new U.S. and allies embassy base for Libya.

    Nor does the author mention that in the real world the State Department oversees billions of dollars of U.S. tax-payer development aid to countries where embassies and diplomats are terrorised.

    Nation Billions of Dollars
    Afghanistan 2.75
    Pakistan___ 1.35
    Haiti______ 0.70
    Israel_____ 0.59
    Kenya_____0.50
    Sudan_____0.46
    West Bank/Gaza0.38
    Jordan_____0.36
    Ethiopia____0.35
    South Africa0.34
    Georgia____0.33
    Egypt _____0.32
    Tanzania___0.31
    Nigeria_____0.29
    Uganda____0.26
    Indonesia__0.26
    Mozambique0.23
    Liberia_____0.22
    Colombia___0.22
    Iraq_______0.22
    Only yesterday it was reported that the U.S. State Department is trying to pay another $450 million in aid to Egypt.

    So that is the generous American people that the world loves but isn't it a bit stupid to try to pay for the country's development while embassies and diplomats in that country are under threat? You can't help people if you get yourself killed, right?

    Instead, spend the military aid for war-on-terror, terrorism-effected countries on building, maintaining and guarding very secure fortress embassies and leave those states and political parties which are misled by incompetent leaders to go bankrupt, financially and politically, which would require those countries to under-go some process of regime-change either internally or externally led.

    The military aid should be enough if re-allocated to diplomatic security to build new fortress embassies and secure diplomats but if for some reason the President and the Congress allowed the Pentagon to dig its heels in and refuse to pay for diplomatic security then it's better to take some money from the development aid budget for the country with a terrorist problem to provide security for the diplomats and embassies based there.

    Better to stop propping up weak governments and use very secure embassies as a place for robust diplomacy to tell local politicians to stop wrecking their own economies as they tend to do by foolishly suppressing and oppressing their most enterprising individuals, tell them to stand aside if they are not up to the job of leadership.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    It's worth noting that even if the decision had been made to construct a fortress in the desert it would still be under construction, and there would still be a need to have diplomatic boots (well, ok, diplomatic Gucci shoes) on the ground...
    Well the construction of a fortress embassy base would need military engineers' boots on the ground accompanied with marines' boots as security for the engineers totalling more military boots and equipment on the ground than the battalion of embassy security guards needed after completion.

    If and when there is a construction site then presumably the U.S. embassy can set up temporary facilities somewhere within the security cordon established there?

    But long before a construction site is in being there is the preliminary approval of the concept of a fortress embassy base to be given by both the U.S. and Libyan authorities.

    Then comes the search for a possible site and then surveying of possible sites to be done before selecting a candidate site then allocation of the land and final approval to build is given the go ahead.

    So yes there is a lot of diplomacy needed even now but most of that diplomacy can be done over the internet and telephone, or in the USA or Europe, Libyans visiting us, until such time as they are ready to send the marines in I would have thought.
    Last edited by Peter Dow; 09-29-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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