Quote Originally Posted by Surferbeetle View Post
It was my observation that 'rights' that we take for granted here in the West were not won/kept there solely through discourse.
That is critical. The chattering elites, the superzips, think that what we have now is the normal course of things. This is how it was and this is how it will always be no matter what is done. Guys like you and Slap have seen the face of the world as it really is and know different. But those people, raised in safe places, surrounded by kind people and never having seen the ferocious side of life, they don't have a clue. That wouldn't be so bad but they don't know they are clueless, assume the rest of us are and away they go.