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    MoorthyM:

    If the 'Preventing AQ expansion' thread gets going you gotta get into the discussion. The US needs some ideas beyond Preds shooting Hellfires.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJHn7GqH1mk

    Nice video tried to cover a lot of subjects like stone pelting, Op Sadbhavna, officer-soldier scuffle etc.

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    Default What does this mean?

    I am not sure what the intention of the new Indian central government is here; no doubt it is a mixture of factors:
    The new government's only planned initiative in the northern region so far is a mass movement of population. Hundreds of thousands of Kashmiri Pandits – Hindus who had fled the Kashmir valley in the 1990s ....
    The author is not impartial and this appears not in the 'news', but in the 'comment' section:http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...u-human-rights
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I am not sure what the intention of the new Indian central government is here; no doubt it is a mixture of factors:

    The author is not impartial and this appears not in the 'news', but in the 'comment' section:http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...u-human-rights
    Can't think of why India wants to hold onto Kashmir which has hisgtorically had 80-90% muslim population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Can't think of why India wants to hold onto Kashmir which has hisgtorically had 80-90% muslim population.
    Kashmir is NOT one entity.

    It has the Valley - predominantly Sunni Muslim.

    Leh - Buddhists, who want a separate State.

    Kargil - Shias who hate the Sunnis of the Valley.

    Jammu - Hindu.

    It is a misconception that J&K is a Muslim State.

    Historically, the Muslims of Kashmir were the highest caste of Hindus - Brahmins!

    They were coerced and tortured by the Afghans and the Chak of Central Asia to become Muslim.

    The Sufi Muslim saints quoted Hindu Gods in their scriptures and poems.

    Read the book, if you can lay your hands on - The valley of Kashmir (1895), by Lawrence, who was a British administrator in J&K.



    https://archive.org/details/valleyofkashmir00lawruoft

    The Kashmiri Muslims don't eat beef which is a Hindu religious taboo!

    It is just this pan Islamic wave and Saudi money through Pakistan that has incited the people.

    Money speaks it appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I am not sure what the intention of the new Indian central government is here; no doubt it is a mixture of factors:

    The author is not impartial and this appears not in the 'news', but in the 'comment' section:http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...u-human-rights
    India is a secular country.

    If Kashmir goes, thanks to vested interests and not solely Moslem, then there will be a bloodbath in India since none will stomach a Second Partition on religious grounds.

    And will Pakistan, which is already tottering with internal confusion and a dead and dying economy, be able to absorb the exodus?

    The imbalance will be catastrophic not only to India, but to the world.

    All are worried about the same.

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    Default Zeal for insurgency wanes among former Kashmir militants

    One of the BBC's reporters has been to Azad Kashmir Pakistan-administered) and reports:
    Pakistani army chief Raheel Sharif's recent statement that "Pakistan and Kashmir are inseparable" has added to tensions between India and Pakistan. The two nuclear-armed neighbours each claim Kashmir in its entirety, and occupy different parts of it. But as the BBC's M Ilyas Khan discovered on a recent visit to Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-administered Kashmir and the base camp for the insurgency, all is unusually quiet.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33359800
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    Default The "devils in the detail":Location, timing and method

    A detailed article by Shashank Joshi (RUSI) via the Australian Lowy Institute's email briefing:
    On 27 July, three (Kashmiri) militants crossed from Pakistan into the Indian state of Punjab, according to GPS sets they were carrying. They planted five IEDs on a railway track, targeted bus passengers and holed up in a police station in Gurdaspur 20km from the border, eventually killing seven Indians. The attackers were themselves killed by local police after a day's siege.
    Link:http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/...d-method.aspx?
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    Default India and Pakistan: the long view

    a longish article, but covers a lot (I think, obviously)

    http://brownpundits.blogspot.com/201...long-view.html

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