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    Default Pat Boone Calls The President A Marxist

    Link to NBC report of 1950's heart throb Pat Boone saying President Obama is a Marxist. In the SCW opinion is he or isn't he......a Marxist?

    http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=796288

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    Slap:

    Labels don't matter as much as result. The aim of the man and his ilk is that the few rule the many. Me and you are among the many.
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    Default Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals,'

    According to Boone, Obama is using "Rules for Radicals" as his playbook. Actually, it looks a lot like Fox News' playbook. Rule #2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

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    Why would anyone care what Pat Boone thinks? Has he any particular expertise or competence in matters political?
    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”

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    I can't see why anyone would care what he thinks, unless they just liked him, or his views, or thought he was dreamy back in the day.

    As to the original question, I bet he has some Marxist leanings, but I think he would be restricted in what he can and cannot do, as the POTUS.

    If actions speak louder than words, then I hope I never know if he is a true believer in the political, economic, and social theory's of Karl Marx.

    I don't believe in the inevitability of socialism or communism.

    Pat Boone, Hahaha

    He speaks.

    Life goes on.
    Last edited by Levi; 03-17-2013 at 01:33 AM. Reason: lol inappropriate for this forum

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    Hey Slap:

    In the responses so far, Alinsky's rules 5 and 13 are covered. Interesting.
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    Default Apparently,

    I am just a few rules away from a position as a community organizer.

    Next step, Oval Office.

    In all fairness to Mr. Boone, no one cares what I say either. I wonder. If the President publicly declared himself an avowed Marxist, what would change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl View Post
    Hey Slap:

    In the responses so far, Alinsky's rules 5 and 13 are covered. Interesting.
    Yes, and I wonder how many people now that the American Communist party was started in 1919 in................Chicago.

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    Default Same ole same ole

    I don't understand why anyone even pays attention to CPAC. They are like the Moral Majority - a bunch of elitists who think they know better than everyone else who are looking to create a caste society with their membership being the oligarchical leadership. They are the Moral Majority in expensive suits.
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    Default A Chicago Doubleheader

    For The Communist Labor Party of America (CLP), "Founding Convention" -- Chicago, IL -- Aug. 31 - Sept. 5, 1919;



    And for The (old) Communist Party of America (CPA), "Founding Convention" -- Chicago, IL -- Sept. 1 - 7, 1919;



    But, alas, Chicago was abandoned by the Comintern for the eastern shore of Lake Michigan to create The United Communist Party of America (UCP), "Joint Unity Convention" -- Bridgman, MI -- May 26 - 31, 1920;



    But wait, the story goes on and on, including even Woodstock ("Joint Unity Convention" -- near Woodstock, NY -- May 15 - 28, 1921), where a very young Pat Boone was warmup for Pete Seeger.

    And so it went - ref. The Communist Party of America (1919-1946) - Downloadable Documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm99 View Post
    But wait, the story goes on and on, including even Woodstock ("Joint Unity Convention" -- near Woodstock, NY -- May 15 - 28, 1921), where a very young Pat Boone was warmup for Pete Seeger.

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    Excellent Mike! and yes it gets even better. A couple of months ago I was watching a documentary about Pete Seeger who actually had a short lived popular TV show called Hoot-Anny (can't spell) it was originally believed that he was a Conservative Republican type When his true views became known the show was canceled and I imagine Pat Boone was way down the road from him by that time. Two points: this it is very illustrative of how true Marxism works..... They mystify and surprise. Pat Boone is very well versed in how it works, he has also been very Political since the 1950's and 1960's even had a popular song about Vietnam draft dodgers called "Wish You Were Here" in the 60's, So I would not sell the guy short, he is still very influential inside conservative fund raising groups.

    IMO Chicago is and always has been the key to the President's true views. A lot of Radical Political Infrstructure is still there. The 68 Presidential Convention Riots were no accident and they had tremendous support in order to pull that off. They stopped that for awhile and now just do elections

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    Default Hootenanny 1963

    Link to the 63 TV show trailer a lot of young recognizable faces on here!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf1JUwc3tnc

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    Default Pat Boone Vietnam Song "Wish You Were Here,Buddy"

    On a roll here. Didn't know Youtube had this one and now from the good old days when music was music and America was America.

    Pat Boone "Wish You Were Here,Buddy"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r343YRkQdss

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    Default Hey Slap,

    My post was meant as an example of "effective" agitprop - seven factoids (the meetings and the logos, through Woodstock 1921), followed by a non-factual zinger.

    In 1921, Pete Seeger was 2; and Pat Boone was a dozen years away from being conceived.

    In 1936, when Boone was 2, Seeger was 17 and a member of the Young Communist League. Boone was a good ole Nashville boy from age 2; at 17, a member of the Church of Christ.

    Seeger and Boone did have one thing in common; they both "covered" songs by African-American artists.

    Since you are genuinely serious about this topic, you deserve today's bloodhound award:



    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm99 View Post
    Since you are genuinely serious about this topic, you deserve today's bloodhound award:
    A Bloodhound next to tidy cat?

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    Default I am a Groucho Marxist

    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    Link to NBC report of 1950's heart throb Pat Boone saying President Obama is a Marxist. In the SCW opinion is he or isn't he......a Marxist?

    http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=796288
    "Reville for Radicals" and "Rules for Radicals" by Alinsky are great books. He wrote of shareholder activism years ago.

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    Thumbs up Sorta Seriuos? I Just Like Pat Boone

    Mike, I am serious from the standpoint that Pat Boone is serious and I don't think it is without some factual basis on Pat's part. Whether the President is a Marxist or not I don't know, only he really knows and his close advisor's. Does/did he and or his advisor's use Marxist techniques for political manipulation.....I have no doubt about that. Marx understood how to motivate and manipulate Social Groups and use that to win/manipulate elections. The Conservative movement/Republican party had better learn to respect the man (Marx) and his methods or they are likely to face extinction in the near future He (Marx) is easy to beat which is why I am continually amazed at some of the right wing rhetoric that is put out, it is almost as if the left paid the right to screw things up.

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    Default Saul Alinsky Stuff

    Short video which appears to be a preacher in some church on Saul Alinsky.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBaQ7LIEiNM

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    Default Studs Terkel Interviews Saul Alinsky!

    Listen to the man himself. Link to a StudsTerkel Interview of Saul Alinsky.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtwo8lp_E8

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    Slap,

    If you think there is a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, then you are not getting the joke.
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