Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
I always thought the problem was with those who combined Marx's writings with Leninism, hence the label Marxist-Leninist.

Marx's contribution was to describe a socio-economic model that would be better than what he saw. Lenin's part was to prescribe a revolutionary vanguard, who knew the 'right' way in everything and would achieve socialism.

You can be a socialist without being a Marxist, a Marxist-Leninist or a Leninist.

Somehow I have m' doubts President Obama has any of those labels, but then I'm a pesky "limey".
Your took the words right out of my mouth!!! That is outstanding!!! Lenin is the Violent Revolutionary not Marx. Marx was more into a kind of Labor Union Economic Warfare. Lenin was the lets march on the summer palace with guns kind of guy. And Stalin beat them all...... that is why all 3 fly togather on the flags in the old Soviet Union, if you cant get them one way then get them another way.