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    Default Hootenanny 1963

    Link to the 63 TV show trailer a lot of young recognizable faces on here!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf1JUwc3tnc

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    Default Pat Boone Vietnam Song "Wish You Were Here,Buddy"

    On a roll here. Didn't know Youtube had this one and now from the good old days when music was music and America was America.

    Pat Boone "Wish You Were Here,Buddy"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r343YRkQdss

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    Default Hey Slap,

    My post was meant as an example of "effective" agitprop - seven factoids (the meetings and the logos, through Woodstock 1921), followed by a non-factual zinger.

    In 1921, Pete Seeger was 2; and Pat Boone was a dozen years away from being conceived.

    In 1936, when Boone was 2, Seeger was 17 and a member of the Young Communist League. Boone was a good ole Nashville boy from age 2; at 17, a member of the Church of Christ.

    Seeger and Boone did have one thing in common; they both "covered" songs by African-American artists.

    Since you are genuinely serious about this topic, you deserve today's bloodhound award:



    Regards

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm99 View Post
    Since you are genuinely serious about this topic, you deserve today's bloodhound award:
    A Bloodhound next to tidy cat?

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    Thumbs up Sorta Seriuos? I Just Like Pat Boone

    Mike, I am serious from the standpoint that Pat Boone is serious and I don't think it is without some factual basis on Pat's part. Whether the President is a Marxist or not I don't know, only he really knows and his close advisor's. Does/did he and or his advisor's use Marxist techniques for political manipulation.....I have no doubt about that. Marx understood how to motivate and manipulate Social Groups and use that to win/manipulate elections. The Conservative movement/Republican party had better learn to respect the man (Marx) and his methods or they are likely to face extinction in the near future He (Marx) is easy to beat which is why I am continually amazed at some of the right wing rhetoric that is put out, it is almost as if the left paid the right to screw things up.

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    Default Saul Alinsky Stuff

    Short video which appears to be a preacher in some church on Saul Alinsky.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBaQ7LIEiNM

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    Default Studs Terkel Interviews Saul Alinsky!

    Listen to the man himself. Link to a StudsTerkel Interview of Saul Alinsky.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtwo8lp_E8

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    Slap,

    If you think there is a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, then you are not getting the joke.
    “[S]omething in his tone now reminded her of his explanations of asymmetric warfare, a topic in which he had a keen and abiding interest. She remembered him telling her how terrorism was almost exclusively about branding, but only slightly less so about the psychology of lotteries…” - Zero History, William Gibson

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    Quote Originally Posted by bourbon View Post
    Slap,

    If you think there is a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, then you are not getting the joke.
    It wouldn't be the first time I missed something I do think that the Democrats are better at identifying, motivating, mobilizing and monetizing the various voting groups as compared to the Republicans.

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    Default Slap,

    Alinsky suggests in Rules that we have three basic groups: Haves, Have Nots and Have Some & Want Mores. While his tactics are not inherently left or right, they are inherently useful only to an "outsider" group - to Have Nots vs Haves and/or Have Some & Want Mores (e.g., his community activism in Chicago); or to Have Some & Want Mores vs Haves (e.g., his later advocacy of stockholder activism).

    Should Alinsky's personal political ideology (as opposed to his tactics, which are not so classifiable) be classified as "markist", "socialist", "populist"; or as an individualistic blend belonging to no group ? He claimed the last.

    As to President Obama, my belief is that he tends to be more "socialist-populist" on domestic issues than any thing else. He has certainly tied into the Haves and Have Nots dichotomy; and has used that issue very effectively against the Republicans in general, and against Mitt Romney in particular.

    Using the Haves and Have Nots dichotomy may be as much pragmatism as ideology on the President's part. It ties into what a substantial segment of Americans perceive (and therefore, believe). That is: Let’s Make a Deal; Meals and Unequal Wealth Distribution (by Joyce Arnold on March 7, 2013), which includes a 6+ min video on Wealth Inequality in America.

    The report which underlies the video can be read here: Norton, Building a Better America--One Wealth Quintile at a Time (2011). The bottom line of the report:

    Wealth Inequality.jpg

    Fig. 2. The actual United States wealth distribution plotted against the estimated and ideal distributions across all respondents. Because of their small percentage share of total wealth, both the ‘‘4th 20%’’ value (0.2%) and the ‘‘Bottom 20%’’ value (0.1%) are not visible in the ‘‘Actual’’ distribution.
    This material could as well be used by conservative populists (e.g., William J. Bryan and Tom Watson) as by leftist "marxists-socialists" (e.g, Gene Debs and Bill Foster).

    Regards

    Mike

    PS: the infiltration of canines into the feline Tidy Cat world began innocently enough:



    but allowed the bloodhound to get his nose into the tent. After that, the rest was "his story". Really, a classic in infiltration and subversion.
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