View Poll Results: What is the near-term future of the DPRK

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  • It will fall into chaos as a result of renewed famine and poverty, resulting in military crackdowns.

    3 15.79%
  • There will be a military coup that displaces the current leadership, hopefully soon.

    4 21.05%
  • It will continue to remain a closed society, technologically dormant and otherwise insignificant.

    12 63.16%
  • The leadership will eventually make a misstep, forcing military action from the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    JMA,

    Please define "humilitating climb down." If this minor accomodation constitutes a "humiliation" then it seems to me virtually any accomodation (whether real or perceived) is a "humiliation" which would seem to render the term useless.

    Personally, I tend to put the bar pretty high where humiliation is concerned and I think this country has a lot more self-esteem than an insecure teenager. Calling small slights or accomodations "humiliations" is not a sign of strength - quite the opposite.
    I suggest it is important to face the truth. I saw this coming as did many people from Mickey Mouse countries, strange that so few from the US did.

    It started here:

    The US will conduct joint naval exercises with South Korea in the Yellow Sea, the Pentagon announced tonight as the two countries revealed measures to increase pressure on North Korea over a torpedo attack which sank a Southern warship.
    Note: It is clearly stated it will take place in the Yellow Sea.

    Then this happened:

    China expressed its opposition to US-South Korean military drills at the Yellow Sea, which is a sea stripe between China and the Korean Peninsula, and expressed "deep concern" over the war games starting on Sunday.

    "We sternly oppose activities that affect China's security by foreign military vessels or aircraft at the Yellow Sea or in China's offshore waters," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said Wednesday in a statement.

    As a result it ended like this:

    Code-named 'Invincible Spirit', the military drill took place over five days off Ullengdo Island, in the Sea of Japan (East Sea), and was completed on 28 July.
    Note: the exercise was moved to the other side of the peninsula into the Sea of Japan as demanded by China.

    That is a humiliating climb down if there ever was one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    That is a humiliating climb down if there ever was one.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    Why?
    Ah, you just say that because you're one of those humiliatingclimbdownists...
    They mostly come at night. Mostly.


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    Default or, as Wilf or Gian would say

    humiliatingclimbdownistas...

    "Ah, I kill me..."

    The number of people who do not understand that hyperbole, posturing and backtrack are Diplomacy in the current era never cease to surprise me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    humiliatingclimbdownistas...

    "Ah, I kill me...".
    I almost lost a mouthful of coffee over that. I bow to the master
    They mostly come at night. Mostly.


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    I guess I'm a "humiliatingclimbdowntra" then
    Supporting "time-limited, scope limited military actions" for 20 years.

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    Exclamation Ooops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    I guess I'm a "humiliatingclimbdowntra" then
    'Humiliatingclimbdowntro' is the masculine -- so that's more appropriate. Though you can of course use the appellation of your choice.

    Avoid extraneous letters; a humiliatingclimbdowntroll is, of course, a tiny, fat, red faced gnome like creature with funny ears and a scraggly beard who busily searches the internet for humiliatingclimbdownists or istas / istos of any sex, sexuality, ethnicity, religious persuasion, trade, profession, service, grade or rank.

    Replacement Keyboards will be cheerfully issued at 1505 S (UTC-06) today only at this facility. The facility will close promptly at 1507 S. If you have two, draw one, if you have one, turn one in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    humiliatingclimbdownistas...

    "Ah, I kill me..."

    The number of people who do not understand that hyperbole, posturing and backtrack are Diplomacy in the current era never cease to surprise me...
    You sir, owe me a new keyboard.
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    This truly is the bike helmet generation.

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