View Poll Results: What is the near-term future of the DPRK

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  • It will fall into chaos as a result of renewed famine and poverty, resulting in military crackdowns.

    3 15.79%
  • There will be a military coup that displaces the current leadership, hopefully soon.

    4 21.05%
  • It will continue to remain a closed society, technologically dormant and otherwise insignificant.

    12 63.16%
  • The leadership will eventually make a misstep, forcing military action from the United States.

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    Equally, lack of desire to articulate them to someone who lives apparently only to refute disagreements on any pretext can be confused with inability... Most of us engage in discussions that have merit in our opinion and tend to avoid specious arguments. Most of us...
    Ken, I'm not sure you are being forced to participate in this thread, are you?

    Yep, all those Chineses claims have been of interest since the Quemoy-Matsu discussions here in 1960. The Senkaku / Diaoyu were occupied by us, rightly or wrongly, as the Senkaku and part of Okinawa after WW II until the early 70s. We wisely divested ourselves when the potential for oil and / or gas was first publicly mentioned in 1969 and the 'who owns them' argument, shrouded in a tangled history and muddled perhaps by the Qings began to trickle out. The ongoing claim and counterclaim has been going on ever since then and I've followed it for over 50 years. How about you?
    It doesn't matter what the history of the Islands is as since around 1969 when the gas and/or oil reserves were discovered China/Taiwan/Japan have been claiming the islands. Does anyone really think there will be a reasonable agreement made in this regard? There will be a winner and there will be a loser. Any guesses?

    The US declaring neutrality over the status of the islands is by no means wise. As can be seen it has left the door wide open for China to exploit by the creation of a confrontation as is now happening. Not wise... but rather a demonstration of diplomatic ineptitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Ken, I'm not sure you are being forced to participate in this thread, are you?
    I merely chime in when the mood strikes. Egregiousness is its own reward.
    There will be a winner and there will be a loser. Any guesses?
    The first sentence is possibly correct; the second certainly is, it would be a guess -- as you point out, the issue became an issue only in the 70s and its been back and forth ever since. Way too early to tell.
    Not wise... but rather a demonstration of diplomatic ineptitude.
    Your opinion is noted. Others vary.

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