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    Default Posted elsewhere but....

    I thought this might be appropriate here too ...

    From and article entitled "Egypt’s Military: Doing What Germany’s Should Have Done in 1933"

    Sudanese writer Al-Hajj Warraq, got it exactly right in an Egyptian television interview last year. He said:

    Democracy is about more than just the ballot box. Democracy is a culture engraved upon the cerebral box before it is the ballot box. One cannot talk about freedom in the absence of free minds. The tragedy of the Arab Spring is that when the tyrannical regimes fell, the fruits were reaped by movements that preach closed-mindedness, rather than free thinking. The outcome will be regimes that are worse than those that were toppled.

    Apparently, the Egyptian people – at least the 30 million who were in the streets marching against Morsi – agreed with him.
    "I can change almost anything ... but I can't change human nature."

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    David,

    There is video out now from a ground level POV, and itt is chilling to watch the vehicle slam to the ground on its roof. The occupants likely died on impact.

    I never believed the descriptions that the crowd pushed it off the bridge. Bad driving was of course the less obvious cause.

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    Revolution is the ugliest, most brutal form of democracy. All the more reason for governments to open legal venues to their people to express their political discontent. This is the essence of our own bill of rights. But Kings cling to power tightly, typically only turning loose of total control as their head strikes the cobblestones.
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    "The modern COIN mindset is when one arrogantly goes to some foreign land and attempts to make those who live there a lesser version of one's self. The FID mindset is when one humbly goes to some foreign land and seeks first to understand, and then to help in some small way for those who live there to be the best version of their own self." Colonel Robert C. Jones, US Army Special Forces (Retired)

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    Default What did one General say?

    Egyptian police General Amr in an interview:
    We are 90 million Egyptians and there are only 3 million Muslim Brotherhood We need six months for. liquidate or imprison all this is not a problem, as we have already done in the 1990s.
    Link to Le Monde, French newspaper, to a IMO badly structured article, which includes this quote:http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/articl...3103_3212.html

    No wonder some speculate the 'Algerian model' maybe followed:http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/midd...erian-playbook
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    David:

    Slightly off topic but the appropriateness of the articles you cite reminded me of the splendid job you are doing as moderator. Keep up the good work.
    "We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again." Gen. Nathanael Greene

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    Default Stakelback On Terror

    Video discussion on the second phase oh the Arab Spring



    http://blogs.cbn.com/stakelbeckonterror/

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    Default The Brotherhood :Americas Next Great Enenmy

    Interview of Author Eric Stakelback Author of The Brotherhood a book about the Muslim Brotherhood and how dangerous they are and their links all the way back to NAZI Germany!


    http://www.booktv.org/Watch/14856/Th...eat+Enemy.aspx
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