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    Unfortunately from what I have witnessed over time, is that the ONLY time Israel is every mentioned in the main stream press is when it is being vilified. Any mention of arms for Hamas or Iran, etc, is left out unless they can somehow twist the story to show either in the light of somehow being victimized by the evil Israel!
    This piece of news, not looking good for Hamas or Iran will not make the rounds.



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    Israel’s Unit 8200 refuseniks: ‘you can’t run from responsibility’

    Did you feel your were violating people’s rights?

    N: Definitely. In Israeli intelligence regarding Palestinians, they don’t really have rights. Nobody asks that question. It’s not [like] Israeli citizens, where if you want to gather information about them you need to go to court.

    A: The only limitation is the limitation of resources. There’s no procedural questions regarding who can and cannot be surveilled. Everybody is fair game.

    N: An 18-year-old soldier who thinks: “We need to gather information on this or that person” – that 18-year-old kid [in Unit 8200] is the one that decides.

    A: It is well known that the intelligence is used. People are arrested in the Palestinian territories. Sometimes without trial. And even when they are taken to trial it’s often with evidence that can’t be exposed [in court] because it is classified. And the intelligence is used to apply pressure to people, to make them cooperate with Israel. These are all things that are known.
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    A: I should say there are a lot of people who, when they leave the military service they start seeing Palestinians as people not just as sources of information, and getting a bigger picture of what’s happening and a lot of people … there’s very different levels of commitment and enthusiasm in doing the reserve service and a lot of people taper off.

    D: It was clear from the beginning we wanted to do everything legally. We went to a lawyer and said we don’t want to commit an offence or say anything not allowed to can you help us figure out what we would be allowed to say.

    N: We’re not telling secrets about what we did or the way the unit works. We don’t want to do that. We don’t want to hurt national security, we just want to say what is wrong with the things we did and the unit does.

    We want people to know that being in intelligence is not clean, and to control a population of millions you can’t just do counter-terrorism and hurt the people who want to hurt you.
    It matches some of the issues raised in 'Gatekeepers' and casts another light on the difficult situation of citiziens willing to serve and protect their country but also playing their part in oppressing other:

    A: I think we have said that some of the things that the IDF does really does deserve the title defence forces, but there is a significant proportion of what it is doing that does not deserve this title. It’s in the interests of perpetuating a regime that is oppressive. That is not democratic. It is these things we are trying to bring to the attention of Israeli public first and foremost. To create a discussion and think critically about it.
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    Default What does it say when the IDF is the sanest voice in Israel?

    Without doubt an opinionated article on the IDF and politics; on a previously unheard of website:http://972mag.com/what-does-it-say-w...israel/114514/
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    Default Why is Israel so Cautious on the Islamic State? A Recent War Game Explains Why.

    Why is Israel so Cautious on the Islamic State? A Recent War Game Explains Why.

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    Default Intelligence and Decision Making: the IDF Leaving Lebanon as a Case Study

    A new book, 'The True Story of How Israel Left Lebanon (May 2000) Code Name “Dawn” ', has been published in Hebrew, so the Meir Amit Centre has a useful summary. It ends with:
    Gilboa sums up the insights pertaining to intelligence, saying: “There is no doubt that the primary function of intelligence is to point out the risks. This is its duty, and it did so. The problem with the assessments by Military Intelligence was that they failed to point out the prospects".
    Link:http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/20961
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    Default From Maneuver to Attrition: The Transformation of the Israel Defense Forces’ Approach

    From Maneuver to Attrition: The Transformation of the Israel Defense Forces’ Approach to Warfare

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    Amazing footage

    Watch an Israeli air-force pilot land an F-15 with only one wing — via @WeAreTheMighty
    http://read.bi/2b4lCaX

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    Default Fauda: The drama lifting the lid on Israeli snatch squads

    A BBC report:
    Fauda, the Israeli television thriller that portrays the murky world of Israeli undercover army units and Palestinian militants during the Second Intifada (Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation)...The Israeli border police have an undercover unit called Yamas which has been operating for 25 years but had never been filmed before we gained exclusive access to them.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42566284
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