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    Default Occupations, Military Governments, Etc.

    from Dayuhan
    The nature of the occupied society makes at least as much difference as the policies of the occupying power.
    IMO: The nature of the occupied society is paramount. The occupier who recognizes that nature for what it is (as opposed to what the occupier wants it to be) might see "success" and the "light at the end of the tunnel".

    The cases of Germany and Japan were quite different. In Japan, we had MacArthur, who was/became a liberal democrat of the reform persuasion (one of his many contradictions); and a Japanese government and society who were willing to play the same role.

    David's cited piece, Germany 1945-1949: a case study in post-conflict reconstruction (by Christopher Knowles, January 2014), cites as a reference: Dower, Don't expect democracy this time: Japan and Iraq (April 2003). The latter was prescient in its conclusion:

    I have no doubt that huge numbers of Iraqis would welcome the end of repression and establishment of a democratic society, but any number of considerations make the situation there very different than it was in Japan. Apart from lacking the moral legitimacy and internal and global support that buttressed its occupation of Japan, the United States is not in the business of nation-building any more - just look at Afghanistan. And we certainly are not in the business of promoting radical democratic reform. Even liberal ideals are anathema in the conservative circles that shape U.S. policy today. And beyond this, many of the conditions that contributed to the success of the occupation of Japan are simply absent in Iraq.
    although given Dower's apparent political slant, it wasn't difficult for him to reach that conclusion.

    Our German occupation was first marked by Henry Morganthau's Plan, which called for turning Germany into a "desert" (in the archaic sense of that word meaning a "sparsely populated, pastoral state") and calling it peace. That plan was scuppered by two people, Lucius D Clay and James F Byrnes in 1946. The resultant "Restatement of Policy on Germany" recognized the realities of the German situation; and eventually put paid to the farce of the WWII "Allies" "co-operating" in Germany and Austria (e.g., the "Third Man" as a portrait of the times in 1946).

    Re: SWC threads, The Curmudgeon's Military Governance versus Stability Operations has links to much of the post-WWII US doctrine and practice regarding military government. Whatever was learned in WWII and its aftermath was unlearned by 2001.

    Regards

    Mike
    Last edited by jmm99; 03-15-2014 at 02:53 PM.

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