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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    You all may think you understand the Muslim mindset and you maybe theoretical whizzes.

    But like the Chinese, the Muslim are a proud lot and they are clear that the world belongs to them.

    You make the greatest mistake playing to Muslim sentiments of thinking you can divide the Shias and the Sunnis.

    They will work to defeat everyone else by using the stupidity of others.

    Just an example - they talk of secularism and religious equality when in the western and non Muslim world, while they ensure that non Muslims obey their religious law or be killed or allow a religious genocide by throwing out others.

    It is time to smell the coffee and quit all this silly meaningless Political Correctness that the West wears as a badge of courage and wants non Muslim countries to conform, when the Muslims couldn't care less in their lands.

    I think the US has a very narrow short term view of this world.

    Just see what is happening to Britain. They are emigrating to Canada and Australia under the influx. And they were the one who were the greatest white supremacists! Rudyard Kipling and others are the living monuments of such racial supremacy!

    Now they have to pander to the non genuine British for their seat in Parliament.

    The West and the US epitomises the saying - cutting the nose to spite the face!

    Even those who have applauded the Western ideal and principles remain befuddle, and totally down by this poor insight to reality.
    Ray,

    My beliefs are not based on political correctness, they are based on personal experience and studying human nature.

    Human nature is universal, at least among humans. Belief systems are conditional, a combination of resource availability and history.

    Besides, history of the ME demonstrates the divisions exist and they can be manipulated, as long as you do not try to ultimately control the territory. Boots on the ground is a bad idea, but allying yourself with one subgroup or another can be advantageous for both parties. The problem is usually not them, it is our arrogance and feeling of superiority - that we are somehow genetically better than the Arabs or Persians. Again, not political correctness, just a realization of the faults in our own human nature and how they influence us to see threats when we should be looking for opportunities.

    And as long as we are on the subject, lets examine this statement:

    "But like the Chinese, the Muslim are a proud lot and they are clear that the world belongs to them."

    Interesting, because if we are going to use pride and the propensity to think of the world as their playground then the biggest threat to world peace is ... Great Britain, which has invaded 9 out of every 10 countries on the planet. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9...uxembourg.html. The United States, about 70. http://www.countercurrents.org/polya050713.htm. Compare that the the ominous threat of China. If you go back to the 12th century, you will see that they have a total of perhaps twenty five countries, only ten or so in recent times. http://www.quora.com/China/How-many-...in-its-history.
    Last edited by TheCurmudgeon; 07-04-2014 at 07:20 PM.
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