Bill,

You are an ideolog. I won't cure that.

I give you rigor, and you dismiss it. I give you common sense, and you dismiss it.

This is why ideology works. It blinds one to the facts before their face.

If we focus on governance and oppression there are cures to conflicts that history bears out. If we focus on ideology there are no cures. Governments being challenged by popular uprising tend to disparage their challengers and to blame causation on anything other than their own governance. This is what politicians do.

I'll let you all enjoy your pity party on this thread. There is no profit to be made in jumping on the "ideology made them do it" band wagon - or in trying to steer that band wagon onto a path actually based on fact.