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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeda Toshiie View Post
    I wonder if it would be better to capture these Russian SF and parade them on the streets of Kiev. Too provocative?
    Maybe six months ago but the Ukrainian government is fighting for the survival of the Ukraine and there is now no lost love for Russian troops- mercenary or otherwise.

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    Appears that the Russian Army last night drove 23 APCs with troops across the Ukrainian border into the separatist zone and are holding their positions---being reported by UK media via German media.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ne-360709.html

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-986206.html

    Appears that Russia seems to be dead set in forcing a "aid convoy" across the border in the face of all statements specially made to them by the West and the ICRC so it appears that all Russian comments by their FM and Putin seem to be somewhat incorrect to say the least.

    This would reflect the adding of Russian AD assets to their "aid convoy" along with having armed copter escorts.

    Late reports coming out seem to indicate the UA was able to take control of a town that sits directly on the Russian resupply road from Russia which is the only road into a surrounded town they are trying to bring "aid" to.

    Also a number of reports are coming out since yesterday that all mercenary units are extremely low on ammunition and food themselves.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-15-2014 at 06:35 AM.

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    This particular reporter has been dogging the aid convoy and sent this morning several photos taken from outside looking into the long haul trailers some of which appeared to be mostly empty.

    Will be interesting to hear what the Ukrainian and IRC say after each individual truck clearance is finished.

    Begs the question what happened to the supposedly 2000 tons of aid or is the convoy a decoy?

    https://twitter.com/WeAreUkraine/sta...862721/photo/1

    Based on this tweet--Ukrainian Border Guards are saying more than half of the trucks are empty---begs the next question was in there in fact "military aid" and it was off loaded at the military installation they RONed the previous night?

    https://twitter.com/TarasKuzio/statu...27379135283200

    One has to like social media for speed.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-15-2014 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that the Russian Army last night drove 23 APCs with troops across the Ukrainian border into the separatist zone and are holding their positions---being reported by UK media via German media.
    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ne-360709.html


    Let's see where this story is right now:

    1. two videos one from the UK showing the APCs and personnel crossing into the Ukraine have been posted on social media and geo tagged as confirmed
    2. Donetsk Russian border guards confirming to reporters this morning that yes a mobile unit crossed "but" it was to protect Russian civilians from the Ukrainian shellings which have been proven to be false flag attacks---and in the general area of those shellings there are no UA/BG/BG units
    3. the Ukrainian military states --it happens often lately we just get tab on what stays behind


    And how do we know it is absolutely true:

    The FSB made today in ITAS-Isvestia Online a public statement in the front page that it is all lies as no Russian troops and or APCs crossed into the Ukraine last night.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 08-15-2014 at 12:18 PM. Reason: fix quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ne-360709.html


    Let's see where this story is right now:

    1. two videos one from the UK showing the APCs and personnel crossing into the Ukraine have been posted on social media and geo tagged as confirmed
    2. Donetsk Russian border guards confirming to reporters this morning that yes a mobile unit crossed "but" it was to protect Russian civilians from the Ukrainian shellings which have been proven to be false flag attacks---and in the general area of those shellings there are no UA/BG/BG units
    3. the Ukrainian military states --it happens often lately we just get tab on what stays behind


    And how do we know it is absolutely true:

    The FSB made today in ITAS-Isvestia Online a public statement in the front page that it is all lies as no Russian troops and or APCs crossed into the Ukraine last night.
    Now we know the "truth" the Russian FSB announced in ITAS-Isvestia Online that there were no Russian troops/APCs inside the Ukraine---they now say they have "mobile Border Guard Troops" "to protect against Ukrainian troops from crossing into Russia and to stop Ukrainian shelling".

    No mention through of stopping Russian mercenaries and heavy weapons from crossing into the Ukraine from Russia?

    http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140815/192...-Ukraine-.html

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    Tweets from same UK Telegraph journalist who reported the Russian APCs crossing into the Ukraine last night.

    Evidently a lot more APCs heading to the Russian border passed the parked "aid" convoy.

    From this early evening:

    https://twitter.com/RolandOliphant/s...591297/photo/1

    These guys. Lots of them.

    Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant · 56m

    Which military district is a 76 license plate from?

    Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant · 58m

    Massive column of APCs flying Russian flags and some with мc - peace keeper -driving past aid convoy and barrelling it toward Donetsk

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