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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPride View Post
    ... - my comments were directed at Outlaw, who seems fixated on destroying Russia.
    And what exactly is the problem with that?

    Had the collapse of the Soviet Union been effectively managed this would not have happened. Bush #41 must take responsibility for that.

    In the wake of the Crimea / Ukraine invasions certainly the plan must be to emasculate Russia to the extent that it can never again threaten neighbouring states.

    How could that ever be achieved with the current Whitehouse and EU governments is the big question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA
    And what exactly is the problem with that?
    Oh let me count the ways... starting with the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMA
    Had the collapse of the Soviet Union been effectively managed this would not have happened. Bush #41 must take responsibility for that.
    The Bush administration did not want the collapse of the Soviet Union, recognizing all of the problems that would be unleashed. Events on the ground - the hardliner coup, Yeltsin's nationalism, etc - overtook policy. And how exactly would the U.S. have "effectively managed" the implosion of the USSR anyway? What does "effectively manage" actually mean in practice?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMA
    In the wake of the Crimea / Ukraine invasions certainly the plan must be to emasculate Russia to the extent that it can never again threaten neighbouring states.
    Because that worked so well with the German Empire? How do you propose to "emasculate" a nuclear-armed country?

    You have these broad, sweeping policy ideas but no detail on how it would actually be implemented.

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    How could that ever be achieved with the current Whitehouse and EU governments is the big question.
    Whatever their faults, I trust they're smarter than to become involved in the "emasculation" of Russia (whatever that means).
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