Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
Not one for second guessing Congress but there has been a valid complaint out of the Ukraine that many Americans have utterly no understanding of what is ongoing in the Ukraine.

The Azov BN has been literally on the forefront of fighting in the defense of the Ukraine and has taken loses in killed and wounded in doing exactly that—defending the Ukraine.

Maybe sometimes Congressmen should get out of Dc and truly see the reality of war—then they might have a totally different approach to international relations.

BTW—it was not a MANPAD that shot down MH17—it was a hardcore air defense missile as a MANPAD could not have reached the height that MH17 was flying at.
Not wanting to critique either Reuters and WaPo—both have not have a great track record in reporting in the Ukraine.

Wonder out loud if the Congressman has decided to also pass any amendments targeting Russia for their support in providing heavy weapons and money to Russian Nazi groups who are in the Ukraine killing both Ukrainian soldiers and civilians---noticed he said nothing about that did he?????

Jun 11 2015

U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces



CAN anyone explain to me just why the Azov BN would turn on the same government that they have paid dearly in defending ---in the face of daily massive artillery shellings and ground attacks for now over three months in Mariupol???

Noticed the Congressman seems to have forgotten that OR maybe it was because Reuters and WaPo did not write about it???
The good Congressman should ask himself if he is actually being used by the Russian info war side of the house--does he realize that this particular volunteer BN and many others like them literally carried the entire year's worth of fighting with the Russian Army, secondly does he not fully understand that part of the list of shellings just from last night and this morning are being directed against those BNs on a hourly and daily basis and thirdly does he really understand that the Russian mercenaries fighting in the Ukraine are being manned by "so called volunteers--actually pad 600 USDs monthly to kill Ukrainians ARE in fact from eight different Russian Nazi groups--verified by open source social media--he does not even have to read reuthers of WaPo.

DOES the good Congressman also fully understand that the Russian info war side is using the internet and advertising within the US for funding for theses Russian mercenaries???

DOES he fully understand that a number of former US Senators are taking large sums of money for their PR support of Russia from Russian oligarchs.

The good Congressman should do due diligence before he releases into the world what he did yesterday AND then ask himself "am I being played and if so for who"??

#Donetsk 7:32AM
Volleys https://twitter.com/BylByleva_/statu...16369423478784 …

#Donetsk 7:16
"Proletarsky ds - morning started again with heavy equipment working, like Godzilla walking" https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...13249960157184 …

#Shakhtarsk 7:00AM
3x Strela-10 and 3x MT-LB from east towards #Donetsk https://twitter.com/Helgi__UA/status/609212142269648896 …

Large fire in Ukr controlled side of frontline. Ocheretyne, north of avdiivka. Seems like a gas mains has been hit. pic.twitter.com/6CmBeGulCX

#Avdiivka 7:23AM
view towards the quarry and Konstantinovskaya road direction https://twitter.com/BylByleva_/statu...14369478610945 …

#Donetsk 6:34AM
Proletarsky district - 2 loud shots at 6:18 and 6:21, sound unusual. https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...02192516562944 …

#Donetsk 6:39AM
Proletarsky ds - heard distant single volleys at 6:25 and 6:36 https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...03383782776833 …

#Donetsk 6:32AM
Shchetinina - heard distant shots:
5:01 - 1 round,
5:05 - 3 rounds,
5:07 - 2 rounds. https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...01611135651840 …

#Avdiivka 6:20AM
Fr the roof of a shed visible 50m high pillar of fire, Konstantinovskaya road. Gas station on fire? https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...00684106252288 …

#Donetsk 5:06AM
Proletarka hears volleys https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/609196648489713664 …

#Donetsk 6:06AM
Kalinovka - morning began w powerful single outgoing, like howitzer.
Smwh Pastukhovka/Kalinina heaps https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/609194990619766784 …

#Donetsk 5:35AM
"Artillery battery fr #Yakovlevka continues to fire, even 5-6 barrels. Hey Staff, let's shoot back" https://twitter.com/nixer79/status/609188162615820288 …

#Horlivka 4:59AM
Volleys towards #Svetlodarsk https://twitter.com/Xykalinovka/stat...78220852838400 …

#Debaltsevo 5:10AM
Fall quite close to the city, now calmed down. https://twitter.com/samotniyvovk/sta...81053555712000 …

#Yasinuvataya 6:30AM
Shooting from #Donetsk gradually moves to Skotovataya, near the road is pipeline lit. https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...02503209463808 …

#Donetsk 6:49AM
To north moderate intensity battle. https://twitter.com/Buzzing_Rook/sta...05879666294784 …

#Donetsk 6:24AM
From Rechnaya smoke column visible over the city https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/609207746274193408 …

#Donetsk 6:48
Proletarsky ds - hearing far heavy artillery working, series of volleys https://twitter.com/DoneckiiPatriot/...05929066799104 …

Something big is on fire in #Novobakhmutovka. A giant column of fire and smoke can be seen as far as #Donetsk pic.twitter.com/JHjMwgDjPt

#Donetsk 6:25AM
Two powerful volleys in northwest. https://twitter.com/BylByleva_/statu...02597686329344 …

@Guderian_Xaba "Gas pipe at quarry broke (in shelling)"

Two explosions in #Odesa | УКРІНФОРМ http://www.ukrinform.ua/ukr/news/v_o...vibuhi_2062958 …

View from #Avdiivka now.
https://twitter.com/owl_ok/status/609208325373329408 …