Ukraine: military (Aug '14 to mid-June '15) closed

[carl]

applies

Starting WW3 isn't really an issue, since he knows the US is not going to fight Russia over the Ukraine. An announcement might suggest to him that it would be a good idea to speed up his timetable and act decisively before the proposed deliveries can take effect.

The Ukrainians seem to be doing reasonably well on the military side on their own, and of course overt US support would be an open excuse for the Russians to escalate their support.

We've heard a lot of talk about more Russian troops and equipment moving in, but is there any news suggesting a change in the momentum of the fighting?

Or the prospect of Russki bodies he actually cares a little about might cause him to rethink the whole thing.

This is one of those situations I think where what Grant said to the officers of the Army of the Potomac when he took over applies, he told them to stop thinking about what Bobby Lee was going to do to them and start thinking about what they were going to do to him.

(Also what Outlaw said.)

[OUTLAW 09]

AP--here is an example of the country you claim one has to "understand and see things from their perspective and when one does then negotiate".

Or at least that is a summary of what you were implying.

Read this article concerning the Russian truck drivers and mercenaries dismantling Ukrainian military production equipment from Ukrainian companies around the Donbas region.

Are we now back in 1945 when the Soviets dismantled everything the Germans had and shipped it back to the SU as reparations for the war--since when is the Ukraine to supply at no cost anything to the former Soviet Union since 1991?

Last time I checked the Ukrainians did not lose the war.

You really do need to go back and reread the secret agreements signed between Ribbentrop and Stalin on this exact day 23.8.1939 to really understand just why the Russians then the Soviet Union still feels today they can control the central European region and the Baltics---really read the secret agreement on how the Soviets and Germans divided up central Europe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GN08V20140823

[OUTLAW 09]

AP---you do realize that the looted factory equipment can from a Ukrainian factory that produces a world class SIGINT line of equipment that the Russian Army needed in order to reach their 2020 military reforms program.

But hey I guess the Putin "wanted payments" for the delivered "humanitarian aid".

And again I state what is the US response and what is the US strategy for central Europe and the Baltics outside of just being verbal?

@RobPulseNews there were reports about disassembling "TOPAZ" that produced Kolchuga SIGINT complex @enigmaleggend @raging545

[OUTLAW 09]

AP--another point to think about--go back and reread all the Russian statements made in the UNSC, statements made by the Russian FM and statements made by Putin himself--- when they voted down "humanitarian aid" for Syria---was meddling in Syrian internal affairs, trying to influence Syria, to used to create a reason to toss out Assad, to used use as a reason to use force against Assad--to even supporting terrorists with the aid.

Now just how is it then possible that Russia states the following today via RIA:

Russia Says Aid Delivery to East Ukraine Legal, Guided by Humanitarian Principles

Russia said Saturday its humanitarian assistance mission to turbulent eastern Ukraine had complied with the International Court of Justice ruling that allowed for the delivery of humanitarian aid to people disregarding their political convictions.

By the way it is the same IJC that ruled against Russia to the tune of 50B USD in the Yukos case ---and then the Russian Duma stated they should not obey and leave the IJC, to virtually the same remarks by the Russian FM and also from Putin.

So Russian argues one way when they want to and another way when they want to so just how does one then "negotiate" with a country that virtually lies with every statement when it suits them?

How does then the West "trust" a country when it speaks with three tongues?