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    Funeral of Russian paratrooper in #Russia. He suffered a heart attack on vacation in #Ukraine. http://lostivan.com/ivan/2799 pic.twitter.com/UH63GPukC8

    Ukrainian military Intelligence officer confirms it too : Mariupol is next target pic.twitter.com/91tAATibEe

    #Ukraine ATO -15 #Russia(n) drones spotted along frontline with continuing attacks http://en.censor.net.ua/news/325631/...inue_to_attack … #Mariupol pic.twitter.com/3Kfj5bBX1E

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    A few more comments from the chamber of the "Russian altered state of reality".

    Kremlin reacts to Kiev maybe stripping 100 Russian media outlets of accreditation. “A blow to Ukrainians’ rights."

    I was under the assumption up to now Putin was only interested in ethnic Russian rights in the Donbas.

    This one takes the prize for the weekend:

    The former Ukrainian President is on the Interpol wanted list and yet??????
    @tassagency_en: Yanukovich pledges return to Ukraine as soon as it becomes possiblehttp://tass.ru/en/world/779056

    http://slon.ru/fast/world/byvshiy-pr...-1218078.xhtml … Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Nikolai Azarov says there should be a Russia-based Ukrainian govt in exile
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    Tend to agree with this comment as up to now Russia has attempted to hide all Russian military loses and or wounded soldiers under the guise of various "health conditions" or simply unpublished and silent funerals.

    This maybe a real indicator that the loses are getting to the point of being impossible to be any longer "kept hidden"--recent polling indicated that the average Russian did not want to be in a war with the Ukraine or send their soldiers there.

    In an important development, #Russia's media starts to openly recognise its forces are in #Ukraine. v @Euan_MacDonald http://www.unian.info/war/1046898-ko...n-english.html

    Example of an open Russian funeral for a Russian airborne type killed in Debaltseve.

    Funeral of Russian paratrooper in #Russia. He suffered a heart attack on vacation in #Ukraine. http://lostivan.com/ivan/2799 pic.twitter.com/UH63GPukC8
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    Large #Russia|n tank column filmed in #Yenakiieve:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlQum2NTkQ

    Bus with captured #Ukraine officers now in #Luhansk, on it's way for POW exchange
    via @aa_borodulin
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    Maximilian Clarke @MTIClarke
    #Cossack separatists patrol the front near #Debaltseve in thick fog (16/02) . pic.twitter.com/826nSBUouy

    Kremlin makes Russia's main mobile operators launch free downloads of war songs as ringtones http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/4d020...#axzz3SOIyxxxR

    Geoffrey Pyatt ✔ @GeoffPyatt
    Dozens of well-armed fighters...some of whom looked like Russian special forces wearing Russian insignia via @Reuters http://reut.rs/1GeAStc

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    #ANALYSIS #MAP
    30-vehicle heavy #Russian_army convoy left #Debaltseve ...
    FOR #DONETSK !!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlQum2NTkQ … pic.twitter.com/4keXFp8V3C

    Russian general Lentsov will be overseeing that Ukrainians withdraw their heavy weapons. And Russia? None whatsoever! pic.twitter.com/JNc7kporpq

    In #Donetsk, damaged vehicles and ammo arriving, probably from #Debaltseve @21brklyn
    pic.twitter.com/G9pPpqZsm5

    #Mariupol: City quiet but battles ongoing east of it. All checkpoints are closed.
    via @DEmmerich

    Large #Russia|n tank column filmed in #Yenakiieve:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlQum2NTkQ

    Destroyed Russian T64 tank.Why Russian & not Ukrainian?
    Check out white insignia and number used by Russian army onlypic.twitter.com/zl001iJBwu
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    .@JeroenAkkermans: "On the road in Donetsk."
    More proof that Russia is removing it's own wrecks from the battlefield.pic.twitter.com/UiFVzJlHbf

    Stuart Webb ✔ @Worldwidewebb1
    The commander of this APC in #Debaltseve told us he was from Moscow. pic.twitter.com/rG9atEjOLt

    While Lentsov is "entertaining" the OSCE_SMM in Soledar, what is Vyaznikov doing? Preparing for Mariupol or Kharkiv? pic.twitter.com/YeMkjmKbBz

    SBU suspects #Motorola of abusing, torturing, executing hostages. #DNR #Donetsk http://censor.net.ua/news/325652/sbu...stoleta_ubival … @OnlineMagazin pic.twitter.com/zJJMNAihVs

    Russian conscripts tell of fears of being sent to #Ukraine http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_306481/con...tguid=IBPO3PdE … (from @AP) pic.twitter.com/F3gh590auX

    Russians as young as 18 are being tricked into fighting in Ukraine http://read.bi/1AZRypG

    Russians at NATO @natomission_ru Northern Fleet landings exercises: Looks like a Peackeeping Forces "MC" symbol? pic.twitter.com/Fk37x8Wi49

    Another clearly marked #Russia|n armed forces 2S1 Gvozdika mobile howitzer artillery unit ID'd in Debaltseve #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/XLW9lCrs0G
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    Another perfect example that the current Minsk 2 ceasefire is in fact a failure--notice still no comments from any western leader calling out the constant ongoing violations.

    There is a fierce #ceasefire battle in #Shirokino now, UA forces say they have casualties; Russian forces concentrated there artillery/tanks

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    Ukrainian volunteers created their own HQ

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ato/dobrovolcheskie...ab-411620.html

    Right Sector refused to join Ministry of Defence

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ukrayina/dobrovolcy...ny-404171.html
    Haeresis est maxima opera maleficarum non credere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    Ukrainian volunteers created their own HQ

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ato/dobrovolcheskie...ab-411620.html

    Right Sector refused to join Ministry of Defence

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ukrayina/dobrovolcy...ny-404171.html
    mirhond---really read Kerry's UK statement that the US and NATO has exact information via SIGINT, IMINT, GMTI and satellite coverage to exactly what the Russian Army is doing inside the Ukraine and in the shipments from Russia to the Ukraine. AND if you can read between the lines--guess what is coming at Russia in the next few days?

    oh by the way how are those food prices doing these days and I loved that Moscow Anti Maidan charade sorry parade that was held today.

    All you do is sidetrack with your comments.

    Phillip Hammond & John Kerry meeting.
    Kerry on Russia. pic.twitter.com/tAaZNrNHcl
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    Ukrainian volunteers created their own HQ

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ato/dobrovolcheskie...ab-411620.html

    Right Sector refused to join Ministry of Defence

    http://ru.tsn.ua/ukrayina/dobrovolcy...ny-404171.html
    mirhond--last time I checked the "volunteer BNs" have been doing exceptionally well against Russian troops---noticed again the Russian Army fights in Debaltseve and then later we see the Cossacks--same as with MH17 do you not think?

    Russians as young as 18 are being tricked into fighting in Ukraine http://read.bi/1AZRypG

    Funeral of Russian paratrooper in #Russia. He suffered a heart attack on vacation in #Ukraine. http://lostivan.com/ivan/2799 pic.twitter.com/UH63GPukC8

    AP talks to Russian conscripts who have been tricked and threatened to deploy to Rostov i.e. eastern Ukraine http://bigstory.ap.org/article/269db5

    If I were you I would be far more worried about Putin than the Right Sector at this stage of the Russo Ukraine war as he seems to not know when it is prudent to stop.

    Ukraine's #OSCE chief says tanks and weapons flow from #Russia into #Ukrainehttp://bit.ly/1AZqcjH pic.twitter.com/NPzntoyYKB
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    According to intercept, Russian "Vostok" battalion is responsible for indiscriminate shelling of the city of Donetsk http://www.radiosvoboda.org/media/video/26852651.html

    #Shirokino/#Shyrokyne - Battalion Donbas asking for artillery support, but are refused because of truce. 24tv 21 Feb http://24tv.ua/news/showNews.do?biyt...bjectId=546495

    Paul Brennan @paulrbrennan
    Returning to Donetsk from #Debaltseve, saw a big convoy of over a dozen tanks plus APCs and supply trucks heading east on the H-21.

    #Romania next spy chief warns Russian influence on #Hungary threatens EU unity
    http://uatoday.tv/politics/romania-r...ty-410889.html … pic.twitter.com/ZzcaAzYaQ0

    Ukrainian army HQ: Militants pushed vehicles to Mariupol http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-febr...he-vehicles-to … pic.twitter.com/dnUbQv4PNs via @novostidnua

    Russian army Msta-S column passing Debaltseve http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-febr...ing-debaltseve … pic.twitter.com/riCdhpQNS7

    Yanukovych is back on Russian TV in a long fireplace chat one year after he fled his country. pic.twitter.com/MDnZu1AOn5

    After political agreement on coalition agreement and constitutional changes a year ago Yanukovuch simply fled and abandoned Presidency.

    Yanukovych says will return to Ukraine as 'soon as possible'. http://sputniknews.com/europe/201502...#ixzz3SNDyP1r1

    VIDEO #Russia(n) convoy heading south (#Mariupol?) fr Yenakijeve/Enakievo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlQum2NTkQ … pic.twitter.com/OG9NKHvnQY

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    More of those "do not know how they got to the Ukraine" Russian Army heavy weapons systems.

    UA claim RU supplying new airburst artillery, near #Mariupol
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Mariupol.html … pic.twitter.com/6bCmLahJpG

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    Really worth the reading of Kerry's statement today in the UK--finally it appears the WH is ready to lead--will be interesting to see just how they lead-only took them roughly since the beginning of Crimea to get it together.

    Secondly, after virtually telling Putin the US has been watching via ISR virtually every move he makes--just wish they would release it as the truth is the best counter defense to the ongoing massive Russian disinformation warfare.

    Phillip Hammond & John Kerry meeting.
    Kerry on Russia. pic.twitter.com/tAaZNrNHcl

    John Kerry: "Slava Ukrayini". http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-febr...lava-ukrayini- … #Ukraine

    Russian Komsomolskaya Pravda found another Banderite: John Kerry http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-febr...ther-banderite … #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/IlaTVjiToM

    Kremlin: New anti-russian sanctions not to be conducive to #Ukraine conflict settlement But they keep on fighting and shelling and via OSCE send more heavy weapons and troops into the Ukraine.

    Panetta: Russians "understand strength, & if they feel that their opponents are weak, they will take advantage of it" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...-from-strength

    .@AndrewSWeiss nails key point about #Putin: he's a dangerously reckless improviser, not a strategist. http://on.wsj.com/1EzcktH via @WSJ
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    VIDEO #Russia(n) Soldiers firing AGS Automatic Grenade launcher at #Ukraine troops #Donetsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTHNx6YXygQ … pic.twitter.com/0TaeOauCKm

    Russian terrorists and Russia want the world to believe they withdraw heavy weapons, while they just relocate them and are still attacking.

    Top-secret Kremlin report on moles within "Universities & Institutes in Russia". Does @SimeonDjankov know this? pic.twitter.com/E6vgA3G1rr

    OSCE says the withdrawal of heavy weapons in E UKR is about to start. "Trust, but verify", said Chief Monitor today. https://m.facebook.com/oscesmmu/posts/436754753142902

    BREAKING: #Donetsk People's Republic leader okays plan for heavy arms withdrawl from front lines – Interfax

    VIDEO IMAGES #Russia(n) Soldiers in #Debaltseve #Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtv2...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/N1nWj8XXkS

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    Russian news report: Putin approved Ukraine invasion before Kiev government collapsed

    By Matthew Schofield

    McClatchy Foreign Staff February 21, 2015

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/2...#storylink=cpy

    BERLIN — A Russian newspaper claims to have an official government strategy document outlining the invasion of Ukraine that was prepared weeks before the Ukrainian government collapsed last year.

    The editor of Novaya Gazeta, Dmitri Muratov, reported the document during an interview with Echo of Moscow, a radio station. In the interview, which was reported by news outlets Saturday, he did not reveal how the newspaper came into possession of the document in the media unfriendly Russian world, but said he had confidence it was authentic.

    Novaya Gazeta is considered a rarity in Russia these days, an independent investigative newspaper that’s known to anger the Kremlin on a regular basis. The editor said the paper’s plan is to publish the full details of the strategy document next week.

    Muratov said the document characterized then Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych as “a person without morals and willpower whose downfall must be expected at any moment.” Yanukovych fled Ukraine for Russia on Feb. 22, 2014.

    Muratov said the Russian document appears to have been drafted between Feb. 4 and Feb. 15 last year. He said the overall strategy included plans on how to break Ukraine into automonmous sectors, immediately attaching now war-torn southeastern Ukraine to Moscow’s tax union, with a longer term plan for annexation.

    The plan suggested “the main thrust should be Crimea and the Kharkhiv region, with the aim of initiating the annexation of the eastern regions.”

    The strategy document also calls for a public relations campaign to justify Russia’s intervention. The newspaper did not release further details of the strategy at this point.

    However, Muratov said that the strategy paper contradicts the Kremlin’s claim that it annexed Crimea as a reaction to residents there feeling threatened by Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev. If authentic, the strategy document also would appear to have outlined the precise course of the pro-Russian separatist rebellion in the Donbas, which includes two regions, Donetsk and Luhansk.

    Beyond that, Muratov said that while he could not definitively show who prepared the document, he could with some confidence speculate that the authors included Russian oligarch Konstantin Malofayev, who has been reported to have funded the pro-Russian uprisings in Crimea, including giving $1 million to the new mayor of Sevastopol.

    Muratov said the document was passed from Malofayev to aids of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who then approved of the plan.

    The report about the strategic document came as Russian news agency Interfax reported an early text of a Putin address next week for the “Defenders of the Fatherland” holiday. In that address, Putin reportedly will note, “No one should have the illusion that they are able to achieve military superiority over Russia. We will always have an adequate response to such adventures.”

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, speaking on the anniversary Friday of the death of 100 activists in and around Kiev’s Independence Square (Maidan), said that recent events showed Russia’s hand in Ukraine’s suffering, including the Russian-backed rebels’ advance in the Donetsk region and the fact that even as a cease-fire was being signed they were speaking of next taking Kharkhiv, a prosperous industrial region in Ukraine’s northeast.

    “Now it is finally proven that we did not fight Viktor Yanukovych on the Maidan a year ago,” he said. “He was just a brutal and willing puppet.”
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    Fighting in east #Ukraine over, ukrainian volunteer battalions only violators of truce - #Donetsk People's Republic

    Militants will exchange 103 #Ukraine servicemen held by "LNR" & 35 more - by "DNR" HromadskeTV http://goo.gl/qaDIXT pic.twitter.com/BtZsxODtSj

    HUGE: Ukraine shuts down border posts w Russia after troop build-up near #Mariupol http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv...ia-381493.html … pic.twitter.com/oq7q47RT3m

    #Donetsk: heavy explosions sound from #Avdeevka direction

    Large military convoy in Khartsyzsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-febr...-in-khartsyzsk … pic.twitter.com/7NyAsTgbQh

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    Russian invaders film themselves walking through house when shell hits. http://youtu.be/7lPemNH2CNI

    #Ukraine Guerrillas in #Donbas destroyed 3 IFVs & Killed app 30 #Russia(ns) http://translate.googleusercontent.c...2XSdSb2-gBp1uA … #Mariupol #Donetsk pic.twitter.com/60c0gx9Vsy

    Ouch! Intense video report by @ronzheimer about illusion of #Ukraine ceasefire http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=y...&v=eB-8TqiaVsc

    Dugin celebrates fall of Debaltseve, urges to take Mariupol. Of course, Russia isn't involved....https://m.vk.com/wall18631635_4610

    Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant
    We went to Shirokino, where the Ukrainians say separatists are using new Russian weaponry. Video by @alastairgood http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Mariupol.html

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    Here is a problem the current WH and it's NSC has gotten themselves into over IS.

    When say the attacks in Paris or Copenhagen occur and it is carried out by Salafist we the US thus the world uses the term "terrorist attack" BUT when a nation state conducts the same style of attacks against civilians ie Russian shelling attacks against civilians and or terror attacks against civilian targets in the Ukraine WHAT is the term used?

    CAN in fact a recognized nation state be a "state sponsor of terrorism"?

    Russia has been accused a serious number of times that they are in fact sponsoring terrorism---and this group of Ukrainians was Russian trained inside Russia to commit terrorist acts in the Ukraine and yet what does the State Department say and or do?


    VIDEO terrorist act today explosion and aftermath #Kharkiv #Ukraine. At least 2 killed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aAXoxfqV-0

    NSDC chief #Turchynov tells of 4 arrests in #Kharkiv bombing; says suspects trained in Belhorid, #Russia, acc to SBU http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/22-febr...sts-in-kharkiv

    Terror attack in #Kharkiv, #Ukraine today was something new. It was a textbook example of terrorism. #Russia is state sponsor of terrorism.
    How does a terrorist act in #Kharkiv, by ideologically-oriented "Other Russia" (whatever) differ from such attack in #Paris, #Denmark, etc

    NPR @CoreyFlintoff reports it was a grenade thrown from car into crowd at Kharkiv Euromaidan Anniv

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aAXoxfqV-0 … #Russian #terror. Rare in Western media,routine in #Ukraine. 2 dead,11 injured in blast at Dignity March in #Kharkiv

    SSU - Russian weapon was prepared to be used in #Kharkiv club pic.twitter.com/LIaszkdXEr

    SBU prevented another two planned terrorist attacks in Kharkiv
    https://m.facebook.com/markian.lubki...40704436192182 … pic.twitter.com/QvTTyiCeQU

    In another attack terrorists planned to attack one of the Kharkiv malls with "Shmel" (RPG with thermobaric warhead) http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/22-febr...0000006&zoom=8

    Michael Weiss @michaeldweiss
    Kiev says terrorists in Kharkiv were trained in Russia. And yet we just invited FSB director Bortnikov to a counter-terrorism conference.

    Carl Bildt ✔ @carlbildt
    Indications that Russia is training people for terror attacks in Ukraine. Today explosion in Kharkiv. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2015/...pons.html?_r=1
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    Regiment Azov say terrorists are using a new more powerful type of weapon on UKR positions in Shyrokynehttps://m.facebook.com/azov.batalion?__tn__=%7E

    Another report here of a new more powerful weapon used by terrorists in Shyrokyne yesterday
    http://m.0629.com.ua/news/747825 pic.twitter.com/WNGvAxPiDJ

    Russia experimenting with new artillery cluster ammunition #Shyrokyne.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrOpgDDo2Cg … pic.twitter.com/1GeOhY1sHW

    BREAKING: NATO commander Bradshaw warns of Russian Blitzkrieg, "prospect of slide into strategic conflict" - http://www.cnbc.com/id/102442785

    "It is really, really heartbreaking," said McCain that US and allies not doing more to help Ukraine against Russian-backed separatists

    #ruskiymir Russian terrorists in Donbas liberate owners of their property https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXTq...ature=youtu.be

    Pro Russian forces riding in style - RPG's and Range Rovers http://youtu.be/Lo3_68n7Kos pic.twitter.com/egCr5owx5r

    More #footage, exposing Russian invasion forces bombed/shelled the Ukrainian MEDAVAC point from #Debaltseve.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNtfj7nl4g

    "We let the separatists pick up their dead bodies. When we asked them for the same, they refused and opened up fire at us". /Polk Azov #A3OB
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    Why is it that it takes a Vietnam Veteran and POW to fully state just how bad this WH and NSC has been for US foreign policy especially towards the Ukraine and especially when the US signed the Budapest Memorandum of 1994.

    McCain surprises Bob Schieffer. "I'm ashamed of my country, I'm ashamed of my presdient, I'm ashamed of myself." http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/22/jo...-myself-video/
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