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    When Kremlin Trolls Attack -- Putin's ratcheting up the Chekist information war, get ready http://20committee.com/2015/02/23/wh...trolls-attack/

    Using "journalists" long ago publicly identified as KGB agents is another sign Putin's Troll Army isn't very subtle. http://20committee.com/2015/02/23/wh...trolls-attack/

    Meet the hacks, clowns, agents provocateurs & Chekists behind Putin's aggressive Troll Army http://20committee.com/2015/02/23/wh...trolls-attack/

    Interesting. Smearer of @anneapplebaum & @michaeldweiss here http://johnhelmer.net/?p=11930 is identified as KGB agent here http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/...-B-3041643.php
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    One of these fighters told us straight up, "I'm from Moscow" — @alextomo #ch4news #Debaltseve
    http://youtu.be/9mQ4Ikxp44w?t=50s … pic.twitter.com/uMOUDqBjxy

    Another Ukrainian miner and truck driver as Putin stated:Badma Ulanov from Kalmykia pic.twitter.com/8Z5VFh5hZJ

    Anti-Maidan Rally Sheds 'Novorossiya' Leaders & Ultranationalist Ideologues, Channels Hatred toward 'Fascists' & NATO http://bit.ly/1B5hJd3

    VIDEO: Life News team in Horlivka come under mortar fire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvI0xJLS0g … pic.twitter.com/5K6pSFOxqq

    Russian soldiers film themselves traveling by train from Samara to Belgorod
    http://youtu.be/DfV0tPAgfe8 via @BuTaJIu4eK

    OSCE says ceasefire not holding in "critical, strategic points" e.g. Debaltseve, Donetsk airport + east of Mariupol. http://www.france24.com/en/20150223-...ng-debaltseve/
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    #Russians tortured, killed the soldier of the #Azov regiment. His mom wants all to know.
    #Graphic pictures
    http://patrioty.org.ua/kadirivtsi-zh...a-ato-foto-18/

    #News
    Russian invasion forces concentrated new troops in #Horlivka with locals fearing an attack on #Dzerzhynsk soon. pic.twitter.com/gsbID3zuHs

    Two Russian military columns entered #Horlivka, supposedly prepare to attack Dzerzhynsk
    http://www.06242.com.ua/article/748630
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    One should remember that it is not only the IS that is currently driving on the concept of "Holy War" meaning "holy War" is not just limited to Islam especially when Russian mercenaries from Chechnya are involved.

    http://20committee.com/2014/12/27/pu...rthodox-jihad/

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    Notice that only one party is holding to the Minsk 2 agreement and yet all the US does is make comments during press conference's ie Kerry about supposedly new sanctions and or threats because Russia is definitely not holding the Minsk 2 agreement.

    Then Kerry is off to the Iran discussions and the US goes again silent on the Ukraine--appears the Iran dialogue is far more important that stopping Russia in the Ukraine. there are those that openly state the US needs Russia in the Iran dialogue thus it is not inclined to confront Russia on the Ukraine--might in fact be something to these comments.

    AND yet as the Ukraine fails to return artillery fire as they are holding to Minsk they are being attacked daily since the ceasefire went into effect---does it
    appear to anyone that the US really has a "strategy" somewhere, anywhere???

    There is NO Ukrainian counterfire on the artillery position as the Ukrainian govt sticks to the #Minsk2 agreement.

    There is no Minsk II any more they should respond with every piece of artillery they have as this has become simply a joke

    #Russia|n army forces recaptured #Kominternove and attack #Shyrokyne with artillery from it

    AND just what are the French, Germans and US doing and or saying--not much of anything it appears.
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    Again referencing the Russian UW strategy New Generation Warfare where they mention often the use of newly developed weapon systems.

    They have now deployed their first use of mirco shrapnel artillery shells and now it appears they have deployed another deep penetration weapon or shell.

    Notice the silence by the US military referencing the new weapons systems and shells the Russian army has deployed into the Ukraine.

    The Russian army used new sorts of bunker breaking ammunition vs the Ukrainian front in #Pisky, exploding after breaching 3 concrete walls.

    Another critical element of the UW strategy is the deep integration of Russian SF and CF.

    After taking #Debaltseve, #Russia's "Spetsnaz" forces in #Ukraine are no longer hiding their identifying insignia's: pic.twitter.com/7x3BqXrohd
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    VIDEO #Russia(n) aircraft flying over #Mariupol (jet engine 0.11) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io7vVOpaqOA … pic.twitter.com/fLsoQCN3ge
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    Does really any western leader even believe anything Putin says?

    #Putin: there will be no #war between Russia and Ukraine http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/23-febr...een-russia-and

    One year ago he also said that he's not interested in #Ukraine and now Donbas is full with his military and armor

    ATTEMPTS TO STOKE RUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN CONFLICT UNACCEPTABLE - PUTIN

    PUTIN RULES OUT "APOCALYPTIC WAR SCENARIO" IN UKRAINE – INTERFAX

    UKRAINIAN TROOPS COULD LAUNCH OFFENSIVE IN DONBAS IN EARLY APRIL - DPR LEADER – IFX

    Putin: "there will be no war between Russia and Ukraine". This means one thing: there will be war!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling...alflow_twitter
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    Mariupol: Terrorists killed one policeman. The police opened fire. Bomb was found in terrorists' car. pic.twitter.com/sAk5ZjxU5h
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    Hundreds of Russian army vehicles driving in the SW near Psebay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HmVBhQjIMY … pic.twitter.com/xqNB4oJvML

    This is the exact position, length (5 kms) and direction of the Russian convoy near Shedok/Psebay. pic.twitter.com/IIYkKbhWYf

    VIDEO #Putin created DNR-Whatever "local militia" in #Debaltseve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRIf...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/2pfXB7wD3y

    Multiple reports of loud explosions in central #Donetsk as we speak!

    Hearing loud explosions in central #Donetsk

    Shelling has restarted in Donetsk - seems closer to centre than lately

    Everything is possible ... chechnya pic.twitter.com/trfOTJnEcm

    Russian Internal Ministry combat instructor Roman Gorshkov trains terrorists in Donbas. PHOTOS http://en.censor.net.ua/n325890

    (Pro-)Russian militants are shooting in the classroom. http://youtu.be/bsikfF3UDoY pic.twitter.com/SZgccNumnO
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    Russians threaten to kill OSCE monitors. pic.twitter.com/4gVyyAee7x via @MaxRTucker

    Separatists threaten to kill OSCE monitors. 'DPR' less and less safe for international observers and yet it was Putin who demanded the OSCE be used to monitor Minsk 1 and 2 and has reject UN peacekeeping forces to monitor eastern Ukraine out of fear they will recognize Russian troops and seal the Russian Ukraine border.

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    Interesting comment in light that many critique the poor fighting abilities of the Ukrainian Army against Russian Army.

    Putin to @Poroshenko in Minsk: 500 #Ukraine servicemen will die in #Debaltseve, 2K will be captured. Nothing of this happened - MP Pashynsky

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    Dopey @GrahamWP_UK filmed #Russia's "Spetznaz" special forces wearing their berets & insignia in #Donetsk on Feb 21: pic.twitter.com/J1mxOxz2zO

    Latest Russian radio station which can communicate directly with Moscow spotted at Debaltseve - Investigation. PHOTO http://en.censor.net.ua/n325829
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    Other aspects of the Russian UW strategy.

    RU snap military drills = Bad sign for the Baltics http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap...capital-308752

    Russia's Lavrov accuses West of trying to dominate world http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0LR1V220150223

    Appears Russia is running straight into the EU regulations again just as in South Stream—Putin losing EU “battle” as GAZPROM for cartel violations are moving ahead with a massive fine.
    Financial Times: Hungary-Russia nuclear power deal faces Brussels roadblock http://uatoday.tv/politics/financial...ck-411253.html

    Updated my blog on Kremlin's plans for false-flag "extremist pro-Ukraine" propaganda in Crimea w. header analysis https://cgrozev.wordpress.com/2015/02/22/kre
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    Really appears as if one truly cannot trust anything Russia signs.

    Ukraine Says Russia Has Not Delivered Gas It Paid For In Advance http://bit.ly/17rrpT6

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    If one cannot return artillery fire when fired on --- leads at some point to lose towns and villages all the while the West remains silent.

    Ukraine might lose Shirokine soon. Situation in Shirokine is very difficult.
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    Correction: convoy 50km from border on the way to Novoshaktinsk. At border @ylenews crew told to stop filming. pic.twitter.com/xx9ScPh293

    Russian regular Soldier in Horlivka pic.twitter.com/xQ8wIkUd5Z

    Slick pro-Kremlin web site targets Russian-Americans http://www.russian-americans.org/ urges them to counter pro-Kyiv "propaganda"

    Exclusive interview w/ Isa Munaev, comm.of Chechen volunteer batln, killed 1Feb in #Debaltseve
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/2...ommander-says/ … pic.twitter.com/ZQUe5wPZNL

    Number of Russian-backed rebels killed in #Debaltseve battle: 2911 according to Ukrainian side, 30 according to rebel leader #Zakharchenko

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    A great breakout of how the Russian Army is conducting hybrid warfare in eastern Ukraine and that is exactly why the West has been totally unable to come up with a counter regardless of what NATO and or pundits say.

    Well worth the read and taken from ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl

    Suggest taking a reread of the eight phases of the Russian UW doctrine New Generation Warfare and you will see exactly that they are following extremely close to their doctrine and are actually field testing it urgently in the Ukraine along with a whole series of new weapon systems.

    Monday, February 23, 2015

    Russia fights a HYBRID war with a HYBRID army

    At this point it is clear that Russia is fighting (what everybody calls) a HYBRID war.

    Wikipedia defines this as follows: "Hybrid warfare is a military strategy that blends conventional warfare, irregular warfare and cyberwarfare."

    I think it is even a lot more complex than this. Russia is also fighting an economical, social, psychological, political and media warfare. It uses EVERYTHING and ALL MEANS.

    But... at this point is it also good to state and to realize that Russia is fighting this war with a HYBRID army. WE... have fixed ideas about the army. There is police, politicians, judges, lawyers (just to mention some) and you also have 'the army'.

    For Russia, this is not so.

    Russias 'army' consists of:

    1.Cossacks (something in between police and soldiers)
    2.conscripts, regular army (similar as with our armies)
    3.Chechen mercenaries (lots of them; Kadyrov has something to do with it)
    4.other mercenaries (Serbs, we see a lot of Asians)
    5.Berkut (former Ukrainian special police)
    6.ethnic Russians living in Ukraine who join
    7.Russian tourists (also called 5th column; operating from within Ukraine)
    8.Ukrainian soldiers and officers (either deserted from Ukrainian army or still working within the Ukrainian army as traitors/spies).
    9.Real life actors, actresses and figurants (used for their own propaganda or deliberately seeking Western cameras to play their drama and speak their propaganda)
    10.local mafia and criminals given training and arms
    11.brainwashed locals (mainly manning checkposts and interviewed by Western media)
    12.locals somehow forced to join (mainly of young and very young age, or out of need/money)
    13.Russian criminals or 'inmates' given 'amnesty' in exchange for fighting in Ukraine (we have seen many of them already and there is going to be A LOT more of them; see this blog.)
    14.Special forces (seldom filmed; used to tip the balance in Russia's favor)
    15.FSB agents (they check and control)
    16.Russian generals 'coordinating the ceasefire' on the UKRAINIAN SIDE OF THE FRONTLINE
    17.Embedded journalist for creating propaganda (they also get a military training and are called 'our boys')
    18.Commanders (command and control is all in Russia's hand)

    Furthermore Russia created 'DNR', 'LNR' and 'Novorossiya' labels to put anywhere on these forces and they are used randomly. Also army patches, insignia and tactical markings are used with very little consistency. This all confuses us.

    A lot of the debate on twitter is about whether these forces should be called 'rebels', 'separatists', Russian-backed-separatists or 'Russian army'. The reason why a lot of media are reluctant to call this 'Russian army' is because there are indeed locals involved. And indeed this potpourri of 'militia' can hardly be called 'an army'. It does not fit with the image in our heads of an army.

    But nevertheless THIS IS HOW RUSSIA IS FIGHTING THIS WAR!

    This is a deliberate tactic! Russias army is a HYBRID army that tries to submerge in a local context. That's why it is so difficult for us to recognize it.
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    "Hope dies last"

    An interesting article well worth the read.

    http://20committee.com/2015/02/23/hope-dies-last/

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    Serbian mercenary Bratislav Zivkovic with a Russian KORD 12.7mm SR. Have only Russian troops. Normally. #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/r3miFlZ1aX

    "Russia has UN veto, Ukraine won't be able to 'impose' peacekeeper solution on itself." Sputnik: Read 'tween th lines http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...018663918.html

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