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    "Moscow will take all measures to neutralize possible threat from NATO presence in Ukraine." - #Russia Amb. To NATO.
    http://tass.ru/en/world/780572

    Even more threats against the West today out of Moscow.

    Shoigu: We will develop new areas of Tu-95 combat patrols "in view of international cooperation with our allies in other parts of the world"

    Tu-95 patrols equals bomber strike aircraft carrying nuclear weapons as was recently the case near Sweden and the UK.
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    #Russia accumlate tanks,troops #Novoazovsk,#Sahanka,#Kominternove,#Oktyabr #Mariupol http://translate.googleusercontent.c...yMb9xxVtqCEdfA … pic.twitter.com/Kbp1tG2xcY

    Latest from SMM on monitoring movement of heavy weapons in Donetsk and Luhansk regions.://www.osce.org/node/143526

    LNR militant organization not letting OSCE see site of redeployment of heavy weapons, in violation of Minsk agreement http://www.osce.org/node/143526

    The 16th convoy from #Russia brought important aid goods for the militias in #Donetsk. pic.twitter.com/D8KZ0ail6J
    16 aid convoys later and still the eastern Ukraine under the control of the mercenaries is starving.

    Militants fired 7 times today. Engagement occurred today between Pavlopil & Pyschevyk https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/posts/958290624181744 … pic.twitter.com/3IxaA4sF2G

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    An interview with a tank gunner from Buryatia, who have been hit under Debal'tsevo

    http://www.novayagazeta.ru/society/67490.html

    What is particulary catched my interest:

    — Вы вместе с ополченцами воевали? Общие задачи были у вас?

    — Нет. Они просто... Займут один рубеж, и когда надо ехать дальше врага дожимать, ополченцы отказываются ехать. Говорят: мы туда не поедем, там опасно. А у нас приказ наступать дальше. И захочется — не прикажешь им. Ну и дальше едешь. Ну ничего, котел мы почти зажали уже.
    Q: Are you fought along with militia? Did you have shared objectives?
    A: No, they just took one position and them refuse to advance becuse it's dangerous. But we have orders, and they have not, so we roll over.

    As I suspected, any military toy that is more complex than RPG-7 is operated by Russian regulars, mostly volunteers, meanwhile foot soldiers are generally motley band of former civilians, like locals, cossacks, Russian volunteers, retired wardogs and so on.
    Haeresis est maxima opera maleficarum non credere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    An interview with a tank gunner from Buryatia, who have been hit under Debal'tsevo

    http://www.novayagazeta.ru/society/67490.html

    What is particulary catched my interest:



    Q: Are you fought along with militia? Did you have shared objectives?
    A: No, they just took one position and them refuse to advance becuse it's dangerous. But we have orders, and they have not, so we roll over.

    As I suspected, any military toy that is more complex than RPG-7 is operated by Russian regulars, mostly volunteers, meanwhile foot soldiers are generally motley band of former civilians, like locals, cossacks, Russian volunteers, retired wardogs and so on.
    mirhond-you surprise me---did not realize you fully agree that Russian troops are inside the Ukraine even though your FM and Putin are still claiming there are no Russian troops in the Ukraine.

    reference to the "freedom of speech" in Russia:

    !! The @novaya_gazeta interview with wounded RU soldier in Ukraine has become top most-shared link in RU by far... pic.twitter.com/lAUInl9I67

    Over 80,000 Russians downloaded the link just in one single day.


    just to keep you informed--there will be more such interviews with seriously wounded Russian troops:

    After Donetsk Airport and Debaltsevo, Mariupol and the clearance of the Bakhmutka highway are Russia's next goals. http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/02/...aine-mariupol/

    and since you now fully accept Russian troops in the Ukraine---here is another piece of info for you

    The Slain Soldiers of Putin’s Covert War with #Ukraine (a "place of temporary dislocation") ---you will find in the net an interesting article on how Russia is burying their dead and then bulldozing their graves in the Ukraine.
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    One of the most telling interviews conducted with a seriously wounded Russian tanker from the far east wounded at the Debaltseve battle where in theory only "miners and truck drivers" fought per Putin.......

    Was yesterday "shared" over 80K times alone within Russia in Russian.

    NOW in EN full translation---really well worth reading it as it depicts the Russian non linear warfare in ways the western media cannot.

    Russian Novaya Gazeta's article telling the story of a Russian soldier wounded in Ukraine: full English translation. http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/03/0...-could-happen/

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    #OSCE contact says #Russia/rebels moving equipment NOW to area near #Mariupol in readiness for attack. But as it's assumption cannot report

    #OSCE contact amusingly told me they were approached in Lugansk by #Russia soldiers who wanted help to get the cash they were "owed" by RF

    #OSCE member told me #Russians are being paid $1500 a month to fight in #Ukraine

    Militants fire at Ukrainian forces more than 20 times in past 24 hours http://24today.net/open/328889

    The Coffins of Russia's Ghost Soldiers In Ukraine Are Coming Home @vicenews
    https://news.vice.com/article/it-is-...re-coming-home … pic.twitter.com/C3jmBGPqPO

    Proof of Russian invasion: following in the steps of the terrorists’ August armor batt http://24today.net/open/328857 pic.twitter.com/mZZt8OrrMG

    Self propelled artillery of #LPR-#RU terrorists driving through #Lugansk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3D_5-gH4iw

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    Open source analysis by social media is beginning to now look more and more like a science and not an art.

    If one really thinks about it---more evidence on Russian military involvement with troops and heavy equipment in eastern Ukraine has been provided to the global community than all of the reporting over the last year by all of the standard mainstream western media--how strange is that??

    YET we have seen and nor heard anything from the vaulted western intel communities outside of three still sat photos.

    Not even counting the major analysis work done on MH17.

    Now bellingcat is at it again with a new geolocation technique.

    Stunt Geolocation – Verifying the Unverifiable via @bellingcat https://www.bellingcat.com/resources...-unverifiable/ … pic.twitter.com/Mfik2VdHE1

    Russian soldiers and the thing with the geolocation. https://vk.com/photo151178570_356272988 … pic.twitter.com/UVt3oxyJD2

    How can Russian soldiers be SO stupid to CONTINUE to keep geo-tagging at Donetsk airport? https://vk.com/photo151178570_356272988

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    "Here rules Russia" says "local Separatists" wearing Russian special forces uniform in Donetsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVz8...ature=youtu.be
    Why "local Separatists" wear Russian special forces uniform and say "here rules Russia" and not DNR in Donetsk ?

    Russia starts project "New Russian Spring" on the territory of Odesa,Kharkiv,Zaporizhya,Kherson,Mykolaiv" http://24today.net/open/328811
    "New Russian spring" about to start in South & East Ukraine

    #Russia's ambassador to #NATO Aleksandr Grushko says RU war on #Ukraine "is left to U.N. and Russia" So he admits Russia's involvement?

    Vostok battalion repair workshop with two captured by pro-Russians 2S19 "Msta-S", a self-propelled… https://instagram.com/p/zw0EvGBmoQ/

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    Russia and her mercenaries are still playing games with the OSCE ceasefire monitors and are still not in compliance with Minsk 2.

    NOTICE there is still no reported withdrawal of Russian "contract/vacationing" troops back to Russia proper as per Minsk 2.

    OSCE says unable to verify withdrawal of heavy weaponry by Russian-backed militants http://24today.net/open/328994

    REUTERS

    "As of March 1, the LPR People's Militia has fully completed the withdrawal of heavy weapons in accordance with the Minsk agreements. The withdrawal of weapons was overseen by representatives of the OSCE mission," the LPR said.

    At the same time, according to the report, the militants said that despite the withdrawal of heavy weapons, the combat capability of the LPR People's Militia remained at a high level.

    As UNIAN reported earlier, the militants of the DPR also claim to have completed the withdrawal of heavy weapons beyond the line of demarcation.

    The OSCE earlier said that the militants had failed to give it information about the places of redeployment of their weapons.

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    #NATO Deputy SecGen on AlJazeera: #Russia may have more aggressive designs on #Ukraine, may push for more territory pic.twitter.com/LOXN3MMiuD

    Military experts: Who can tell me the purpose of this tank? pic.twitter.com/JXGkCj4dvd

    Moscow has Already Begun Hybrid War against Latvia, Riga Journalist Says http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...ybrid-war.html

    Militants trying to rebuild Debaltseve rail hub
    http://www.unian.info/war/1050960-mi...-rail-hub.html … pic.twitter.com/68s0JOHA1H

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    #BreakingFootage
    Large scale Russian army ("LC") drills in #Ukraine's #Luhansk region.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3Aths746o … pic.twitter.com/xF5gaCMczp

    who thought 13 months ago that Russian Army will Have drills inside Ukraine (Crimea & Donbas)

    Here comes the next phase of the Russian annexation of eastern Ukraine and the land corridor to Odessa connecting the Crimea.

    Russia is preparing to send Strelkov to #Odessa, - deputy commander of sector C pic.twitter.com/Mz4FmHc2dh http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-march...odessa--deputy

    So just maybe this time NATO might in fact be correct about Russian annexation intentions.
    #NATO Deputy SecGen on AlJazeera: #Russia may have more aggressive designs on #Ukraine, may push for more territory pic.twitter.com/LOXN3MMiuD

    We are seeing the exact same Russian game--ground attacks and shellings used to take more Ukrainian territory, the Ukraine holding to a ceasefire, Russian troops and mercenaries not adhering to the heavy weapons withdrawal regime and not allowing freedom of movement for OSCE monitors, and then more diplomacy all the while never saying a single word that they are in fact in compliance with Minsk 2 and complaining it is all the Ukrainians fault.

    The weather is vastly improving allowing for a potentially very early spring offensive that everyone knows is coming---everyone that is except the US/France/Germany.
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    Gen Lentsov is behind this: Russian Army establish range in Luhansk, Ukraine for combat training Occupation Forces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3Aths746o

    #Russian and local terrorists tanks military exercises near #Lugansk new trng area located at 48.6052, 39.1896

    Three Ukrainian soldiers killed in past 24 hours http://uatoday.tv/politics/live-blog...re-412674.html … pic.twitter.com/1kUGE9rcKA

    Despite Calm Across Much Of Front Line, Attacks Continue North Of Both Donetsk And Debaltsevo. http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...baltsevo/#7253

    ATO spokesman: Militants use small arms to fire at Ukrainian positions yet again
    http://uacrisis.org/rechnik-ato-27/

    My how Russian propaganda works: the video the locals claim to have seen was actually ROC priests blessing Russian tanks and equipment in Rostov before they crossed into the Ukraine.

    OSCE rep told me locals living in #Donetsk/Lugansk saw Ukr Orthodox Church blessing Ukr guns + soldiers, feared for their homes AND religion

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    in this VIDEO They all admit that they are Russian soldiers also show chevrons etc. http://inforesist.org/vot-my-i-na-ty...ukraine-video/

    Second such DNR complaint of the Ukraine violating the Minsk 2---some say Russia is urgently looking to restart the fighting on whatever grounds they can find after completely reaming, reequipping and relocating their various battle groups.

    #Statement
    "LC/DNR" fail to comply with the #Minsk agreement as they do not show @OSCE_SMM obsevers the final detination of their heavy arms

    @DenisPushilin: Kiev Regroups Heavy Arms Near Contact Line, Violates Minsk Deal - Donetsk will no doubt to respond.

    And more troops and heavy equipment just keep arriving from Russia into the Ukraine in clear violation of Minsk 2---seems as if Russia does not care what the West sees these days as they are certainly not adhering to Minsk 2.

    Convoy of tanks, BMPs, APCs w personnel arrived in Pobjeda #Donetsk region from Kumachove sidehttp://mediarnbo.org/2015/03/03/zved...a-03-bereznya/ … pic.twitter.com/HkU8twEYTT
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    Russian Soldier from Khabarovsk now in Aleksandrivka/Luhansk Oblast Ukraine pic.twitter.com/rVNltJbLH7

    Having never actually made an aircraft carrier work, Russia's navy decides to build another one. http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...confirms-12346

    $100,000 to betray #Ukraine: story of #FSB trying to buy special forces commanderhttp://belsat.eu/en/articles/100-tho...ces-commander/ … #Russia pic.twitter.com/eEIFFbjMKa

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    Not LPR militia: Russian Army! Russian Ground Forces establish training area in Luhansk, Ukraine (Photos to follow) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3Aths746o

    Russian Army mechanised unit combat training in Luhansk region, Ukraine 3 March 2015 -2 pic.twitter.com/bdWiDM0CH5

    Russian Army mechanised unit combat training in Luhansk region, Ukraine 3 March 2015 -1 pic.twitter.com/83zSAyn7lP

    Russian Army combat training in Luhansk region, Ukraine 3 March 2015 - 3 pic.twitter.com/8maYCUXixq

    Russian Army combat training in Luhansk region, Ukraine 3 March 2015 - 4 pic.twitter.com/CwrRJ2ggn0

    Terrorists started to return allocated equipment to line of confrontation- headquarters of ATO pic.twitter.com/04p7GGMLl8 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-march...ated-equipment

    Same reported by OSCE: http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/143526

    When Kremtrolls suddenly get the same idea: https://twitter.com/danuborz/status/572748183551545344https://twitter.com/FangornTree/stat...45390761627648https://twitter.com/DNogtev/status/572737593261096960https://twitter.com/77MITCHEL77/stat...33161794351104

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    Two Russian colonels overseeing combat training in Luhansk region, Ukraine: Kiselev (LPR) and ? (Russian Army) pic.twitter.com/VKYyytAAIi
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    Russian invasion forces opened mortar fire at Ukr forces in #Shyrokyne this afternoon.
    Yday a resupply convoy was ambushed.
    2 Ukr KIA

    On March 3, Russia-supported terrorists 20 times fired at our troops in eastern #Ukraine, violating ceasefire agreement - #ATO press center

    OSCE SMM report from East #Ukraine. Cannot confirm heavy weapons withdrawal, #Russia general admits discrepancies. http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/143601

    Without access to areas where heavy weapons in East #Ukraine have been moved to, @OSCE_SMM cannot fully verify heavy weapons withdrawal

    OSCE_SMM concerned about spill-over: growing number of weapons seized at CPs in Dnipropetrovsk/Dnepropetrovsk region. http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/143601

    Russia-supported terrorists in eastern #Ukraine continue imitating withrawal of heavy weaponry from the separation line - #ATO spox Lysenko.
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    .@novaya_gazeta interview corroborates what we knew or assumed before = maybe the most important testimony on Ukraine's war

    Over 210,000 shares alone in the first two days of it's release just inside Russia make it one of the most read articles by Russians on their own soldiers fighting in the Ukraine.

    Depicts the ability to effectively counter Russian propaganda---it must be the truth and only the truth and it must be spread via social media which this was until finally general western mainstream media picked it up.

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    What de facto annexation looks like: armed men breaking into a woman's home in Donetsk say "it's Russian rule here" http://youtu.be/lBSyrSyAzHw

    Russian Army training area in Luhansk, Ukraine 3 March: View from the command post https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...35kRXK7pM#t=15

    #Russia tried to hack computers and phones from Dutch investigation team on #MH17 pic.twitter.com/3kaVBZgTFN via @Erkie999

    Russian-Т 72Б on a trailer, on 03/03/2015 in Donetsk. Loading number H2200 of the Russian railway clearly visible. pic.twitter.com/3eQcDwx7yZ

    Russia is still ignoring the Minsk 2 agreement and still "claiming" the Ukrainians are in violation---not a single peep out of western leaders about the continuing massive heavy weapons flow and troop flows coming into the Ukraine from Russia,

    Watch Part 2 of @vicenews new series about Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine https://news.vice.com/video/russias-...ukraine-part-2 … pic.twitter.com/qXBYnkYWZO

    Latest data by General Staff on losses in withdrawal of ~3K #Ukraine's troops from #Debaltseve: 19 dead, 135 wounded, 9 captured, 12 lost.

    Russia’s latest propaganda fabrications involve Adolf Hitler, Edward Snowden http://www.examiner.com/article/russ...edward-snowden … pic.twitter.com/PreSj6foCD

    The Guardian view on Russian propaganda: the truth is out there | Editorial | World news | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ruth-out-there

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    Shocking video by @AOAV on the impact of explosive weapons on civilians in populated areas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_NV3imirEY

    This is what adapting and improvising combat officers do---excellent example of “Mission Command”.

    Unique Android smartphone map, saved by our officer Andry, how @40battalion was exiting #Debaltseve on February 18. pic.twitter.com/JO7f8f1WRT

    #Luhansk reg: there were shootouts near Krymske & Troyitske, not quiet on #Debaltseve foothold. 1 Ukr servicemen was WIA - governor Moskal

    Russian “peacekeeping brigade” is getting around in eastern Ukraine:
    Russian soldiers from the 15th Motor Rifle Brigade from Samara now in Krasnodon/Luhansk Oblast
    http://the-stabilizec.blogspot.de/2015/03/15-90600.html … pic.twitter.com/8FDBSH59Tt

    Another top Obama official says US should consider arming #Ukraine--this time Martin Dempsey: http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2...kraine/106614/

    Occasional sound of shelling around Pisky/airport #Donetsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/4-march...d-piskyairport

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