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    Daniele Monigatti @DMonigatti
    #Putin you see this? Docs of Russian tankman from Stavropol, Russia who was taken prisoner published online. PHOTOS http://en.censor.net.ua/n333044

    Documents of Russian tankman from Stavropol, Russia who was taken prisoner published on http://24today.net/open/381307 pic.twitter.com/doxxnhFdHf

    Remember Putin did state yesterday in Russian TV in front of all of Russia there are no Russian troops in the Ukraine.

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    Seems that there is more Russian mercenary and Russian troop infighting going on than being reported.

    16:41 #Horlivka, Shakhtar @levis_71: A skirmish an hour ago, 1 dead (military), Lenin Ave is cordoned off, shots in the air

    18:37 #Horlivka @subwayriwer: 5 hrs long the city center is cordoned off near Shakhtar, SMG fire stopped 3 hrs ago

    "they say commandants (yes, plural) are arrested"

    20:30 #Horlivka @subwayriwer: As activity at commandant's office has finished, skirmish in Gagarin coal mine area started

    20:30 #Horlivka @jackson_villi: ISomething serious in #Mayorsk/6-7 coal mine direction - heavy and small arms for about 1/2hr
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    http://tass.ru/en/world/790254

    Moscow sees US troops in Ukraine as step one to supplies of US weapons

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    The training program includes drilling skills in handling weapons and hardware of Western standards

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    MOSCOW, April 17. /TASS/. The United States’ sending its airborne troops to Ukraine can be seen as the first step towards supplies of state-of-the-art US weapons, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Alexander Lukashevich said on Friday.

    "As far as I know, the training program includes drilling skills in handling weapons and hardware of Western standards," he said. "It can be considered as the first step towards supplies of state-of-the-art American weapons the Kiev ‘party of war’ is craving for so much. Washington’s encouraging attitude towards its revanchist plans is fraught with another surge of violence and bloodshed in our neighbouring country."

    "Reports about the arrival of 290 servicemen of the US 173 Airborne Brigade (deployed in Italy’s Vicenza) to the Yavorovsky testing ground in Ukraine’s Lvov region cannot but cause serious concern," he said. "It is evident that American soldiers in Ukraine will not bring peace to it."

    The diplomat also once again pointed out that US sending its airborne troops to Ukraine runs counter to Minsk agreements.

    "These actions run counter to the agreements reached in Minsk on February 12 and signed by the Kiev authorities supported, as far as we understand, by Washington," he said. "So, it is a flagrant violation of liabilities Kiev has undertaken, while the Obama administration, which calls for a peace settlement of the Ukrainian crisis in word, is seeking to frustrate the Minsk agreements in fact."

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    21:03 #Donetsk @Ykraino4_ka: 'Another average evening in #Donetsk, orcs are trying to shoot down a UAV from an AA gun again'

    21:05 #Donetsk @UrriKara4en: Sounds of heavy artillery from the north, not rapid ones yet. Vibration on the ground and air

    #OSCE SMM report on #Minsk2 ceasefire violations. #Ukraine, #Russia reps claim a "third party" is provoking fire. http://www.osce.org/node/151791

    #Ukraine soldiers hold their positions east of Mariupol
    http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/p...ol-386482.html … pic.twitter.com/8o9ZNaOuo4

    Greece Defense Minister told Russian newspaper that Ukrainian government is "fascist" http://m.gazeta.ru/politics/2015/04/17_a_6643361.shtml … pic.twitter.com/S8VIkA62v3

    #Donetsk 21:45
    In #Pisky area serious shooting... Obviously something big caliber, sounds like Uragan? https://twitter.com/alex2015112/stat...38402127323136

    #Donetsk
    Leninsky district - very loud! https://twitter.com/evergreen_dn/sta...38862095622145

    20:40 #Donetsk @alex2015112: SMG bursts and strange hissing sounds, 'something new every day'

    #Spartak, #Shyrokyne - Wherever Russian Col-Gen Lentsov goes with his #OSCE_SMM fan club, fighting breaks out. pic.twitter.com/2UqCtJxunM

    21:13 #Donetsk
    @DoneckiiPatriot: Schetinina, AA gun firing at UAV
    @98760333: the center, tracer bursts, AA guns.

    21:15 #Horlivka, Central City ds @DobryShubin: SPG or D-30 volleys from car-road institute/Vulkan

    A lot of shelling and gunfire reports coming in from #Donetsk and surroundings this evening. #Pisky e.g. under serious fire.

    #Horlivka
    21:15 @levis_71: Heavy rumble in the center
    @ukromania There were hits to parking in Olenina St, Stroitel

    Also #Avdeevka, #Makeevka and #Horlivka. Some reports including heavy artillery like D-30 or SPG

    21:47 #Donetsk @DoneckiiPatriot: Tracer bursts in the sky pic.twitter.com/nSEBFCiAZP

    Seems like shells landing in #Horlivka center. In #Donetsk many tracers in the air, separatists firing at UAV's in the sky.

    21:13 #Horlivka @sv_inaya: Loud rumble in the center
    20:20 till abt 21:10 #Artemivsk: distant cannonade
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Was the killing of two proRussians in the Ukraine recently actually Russian "false flag operations".

    Why is it a possibility??? Putin was already talking about it in his Q&A telephone session --even before the news broke officially he was critiquing the Ukrainians for calling themselves "democratic".

    RFE/RL ✔ @RFERL
    Kyiv Alleges Journalist's Slaying Not Only Ordered, But Timed To The Minute http://www.rferl.org/content/kyiv-al.../26963867.html

    Friday, April 17, 2015

    Ukraine

    Kyiv Alleges Journalist's Slaying Not Only Ordered, But Timed To The Minute

    Oles Buzina was killed on April 16

    By Daisy Sindelar

    April 17, 2015

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Russian Foreign Ministry’s ombudsman for human rights @KKdolgov " Wave of political terror rises in #Ukraine" —
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    Referencing the Russian S-300

    Al_Khdir @mulcairejack
    EW capabilities are notoriously hazy & secretive so I dont really know what that means in concrete terms. Jamming pod or dedicated airframe?

    So main effect of #S300 to #Iran is that any hypothetical strike package will require a larger, more advanced EW component.

    USAF & IAF got a look at the #S300 by disassembling & testing units they acquired from Slovakia, Cyprus & Greece. EW countermeasures exist

    #S300 in #Iran's hands increases the scope of an operation against its nuke facilities somewhat but doesn't stop it

    Re: the #S300 for #Iran "controversy", neither USAF or IAF is very worried, S300 was totally compromised long ago, EW assets can handle it

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Daniele Monigatti @DMonigatti
    #Putin you see this? Docs of Russian tankman from Stavropol, Russia who was taken prisoner published online. PHOTOS http://en.censor.net.ua/n333044

    Documents of Russian tankman from Stavropol, Russia who was taken prisoner published on http://24today.net/open/381307 pic.twitter.com/doxxnhFdHf

    Remember Putin did state yesterday in Russian TV in front of all of Russia there are no Russian troops in the Ukraine.
    VIDEO Another tank on its way to NOT BE IN #Ukraine Acc. to #Putin, falls of trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ9qU9DP7DE … pic.twitter.com/fBA5rZ3Du0

    Russia This Week: After Putin’s Press Conference, ‘Where is Reality?’ http://bit.ly/1CV8dXc pic.twitter.com/RElr6KOPeQ
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    This evening the war is back into full swing again with the same heavy shellings that Russia was to stop with the Minsk 2 ceasefire and the withdrawal of their heavy weapons--seems as if they no comply with Minsk 2.

    #Pisky: Heavy incoming shelling, the sky is glowing, the shockwaves can be fealt
    via @Guderian_Xaba

    #Donetsk
    21:38 Kalinovka @666_mancer: MG fire joined to heavy explosions

    21:50 @nixer79:for 30min heavy volleys from Tochmash/Airport/#Spartak area, not less than 3 cannons, 'maybe yday's howitzers'

    Seems like GRADs are flying againhttps://twitter.com/loogunda/status/589149230675034114

    22:14 #Horlivka @DobryShubin:Quiet in the center, small arms fire and explosions sounds fromthe north.

    Grad&howitzer volleys were there not far from #Kirovsk
    @MeierImpala: It was heard in #Stakhanov

    Battle in the area of Donetsk airport http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/17-apri...onetsk-airport

    22:16 #Horlivka @audrius1977: #Holma can hear MG fire in #Mayorsk/#Mykitivka direction

    1> village in #Luhansk Oblast-#Lopaskine (uncontrolled by either party)-raises #Ukrainian flaghttp://zik.ua/ua/news/2015/04/17/shc...ukrainy_582061 … pic.twitter.com/S8LIUF3mDm

    22:18 @AlfaNubovsky: North outskirts - rumble
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    22:10 @98760333: Kalinovka, Med.Inst:heavy volleys & flashes in the NW

    This is interesting:
    "#Debaltsevo. Shooting! Where?"

    22:18 #Donetsk @hunab_ku04: heavy impacts on #Pisky, glow from #Smolyanka direction22:19 #Avdeevka @rechnikato: Quiet

    A massive Russian MRLS munitions resupply point near Ukrainian border.
    pic.twitter.com/yMe8eF3rsM

    VIDEO View from frontline at Sanzharovka #Donetsk #Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmgGOL2vWU … Which #Putin/#Russia now claim? pic.twitter.com/IpZNy5sHEQ

    22:22 @DoneckiiPatriot Proletarka: distant explosions

    22:28 @maxi_Good Rumble in #Yelenivka direction

    Deputy Energy Minister of the #Russian Federation Yanovsky heads rebuilding of railway tracks in #Debaltseve - Deputy ATO Head Col. Fedichev

    This month #Russia has supplied by railway to #Donbas 13 railway cars of ammunition, weapons - Col. Fedichevhttp://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/04/17/7065082/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Referencing the Russian S-300

    Al_Khdir @mulcairejack
    EW capabilities are notoriously hazy & secretive so I dont really know what that means in concrete terms. Jamming pod or dedicated airframe?

    So main effect of #S300 to #Iran is that any hypothetical strike package will require a larger, more advanced EW component.

    USAF & IAF got a look at the #S300 by disassembling & testing units they acquired from Slovakia, Cyprus & Greece. EW countermeasures exist

    #S300 in #Iran's hands increases the scope of an operation against its nuke facilities somewhat but doesn't stop it

    Re: the #S300 for #Iran "controversy", neither USAF or IAF is very worried, S300 was totally compromised long ago, EW assets can handle it
    What looks like another S-300 launch failure, missile ejects but doesn't fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqxs7

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    VIDEO #Russia(ns) generosity to #Ukraine send food,mercenaries,flag & T-72 tanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6JGIe-_yw … How sweet! pic.twitter.com/D55NDoNyRX

    23:10 #Donetsk @funkermanjke: Heavy artillery volleys for about 2 hrs already.

    Last Summer/autumn Russians fire Tochka-U (SS-21 Scarab A) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZu4GXS_udQ

    Russian General Lentsov keeps appearing in Shyrokyne 10 km away from Mariupol, like he did before Debaltseve fell pic.twitter.com/NHqXKdZkq8

    22:28 @donetsk_ukrop: Rumble from #Yakovlivka/#Spartak, glow over the airport, marking projectiles from Yakovlivka

    23:20 #Donetsk, Budenovsky ds @UrriKara4en: RUS artillery continues shelling somewhere in the northwest
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    Russian SOF Rusish with Milchakov in Bezimenne near Shyrokine http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/18-apri...v-in-bezimenne … pic.twitter.com/RbbtXNY5t4

    Edward Lucas ✔ @edwardlucas
    great response from gutsy @lizwahl to @DanaRohrabacher false equivalence watch it live here http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/live-video-feed

    .@edwardlucas: We may have to get used to a world in which rules don’t matter & might is right
    http://www.europeanvoice.com/article...se-to-edit-it/ … pic.twitter.com/f3FPkzeODp

    MASSIVE Russian MRLS munitions depot near Ukrainian border.
    "#Putin's supermarket": #Russia,Kamensk-Rostov region,10km to state border-http://bit.ly/1zqQ55X #Ukraina pic.twitter.com/ITkbAmqQX4
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    What is interesting with this statement by the top Russian mercenary is the simple fact that;

    1. Minsk 1 and 2 on the exchange of POWs has never been fulfilled by Russian and her mercenaries with still over 400 Ukrainian civilians and military prisoners known to be alive not exchanged—in fact there are solid hearsay a number have been moved to Russian territory
    2. the Russian troops and her mercenaries never did comply wit the verifiable withdrawal of heavy weapons and blamed the Ukrainians constantly
    3. Russia has maintained a massive resupply of both troops, weapons, fuel and munitions into the Ukraine strictly against the Minsk agreements
    4. with every ceasefire the Russian troops and her mercenaries never did actually “ceasefire” but used them as a cover to position for new offensives that gathered only more Ukrainian territory under their control

    BUT what both Russia and her mercenaries are really attempting to sidestep and massively sidestep is the simple fact that the core demand by Russia for a “special zone law for the occupied territories” was in fact passed and signed into law BUT with a significant catch that Russia did not see coming nor anticipated—namely the Ukrainians tied the new law to the single demand ALSO written into Minsk 1 and 2 all elections must be under Ukrainian election laws, be free and independent and transparent AND must conform to Ukrainian overall law---THUS really a de facto recognition by Russia that the occupied territories are actually Ukrainian AND actually this same opinion was echoed by a number of the mercenary sub commanders who had become dissatisfied by Russia allowing Minsk 1 and 2 to occur. and have voiced recently their thoughts on the matter.

    MANY social media types--notice no western government representatives ---have stated Russia would never allow the elections to occur which is what this statement below aims at—stopping any such election and law form going into effect.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32363766

    Ukraine rebel leader Zakharchenko asserts claims

    A senior rebel leader in eastern Ukraine has claimed the Minsk peace deal will fail unless Kiev recognises the independence of rebel-held territory.

    Aleksandr Zakharchenko told the BBC he wanted to expand the self-proclaimed republic he leads in Donetsk.

    He said the Minsk ceasefire agreement brokered by the West was not being properly implemented by the government.

    "Ukraine doesn't want to resolve all the issues," he said.

    "If you agree to resolve something, then you need to act and move forward, and resolve everything that's included.

    "If that doesn't happen, then the Minsk Agreement is unfulfilled, and it renders all the meetings in Minsk pointless," he added.

    He also accused Kiev of preparing for war - a charge it denies.

    "According to the information we've received, Kiev could once again provoke the conflict very soon, attacking Donetsk or any another town of the Donetsk People's Republic."

    Under the Minsk agreement, backed by European leaders, Ukraine's government claimed that the rebel-held east would remain part of the country.
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    There is another single point of failure in the Russian non linear warfare doctrine that is becoming daily more apparent:

    What happens when the locals wake up one day and discover you are not really supporting them in their demands that you are declaring to the world are so important. IE defending the rights of ethnic Russians wherever they reside.

    1. this week 100 Russian mercenaries returned to St. Petersburg retuned and told Russian news media--the locals were constantly calling them "occupiers and they should leave"

    2. then this video in a town being hotly contested by Russian mercenaries an older women made her comments known to one of the top Russian mercenary leaders who was visiting there with Russian JCCC personnel providing them protection

    At Shyrokyno, Ukrainian woman asks Russian stooge Basurin a fair question. Full video http://youtu.be/N_DlrQkINeo pic.twitter.com/OjVFboXooo

    3. the director of the Crimean Zoo who cheered in local media when the Russian "recused" all ethnic Russians in the Crimea NOW is totally feed up and wants to take the entire Zoo back to the Ukraine
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    Twitter is the information weapon of choice in reporting on the constant Minsk 2 violations that the West is trying desperately to ignore out of fear they must make to decsions they really do not want to make but must since they are record as stating so.

    #Donetsk @Serzzze
    10:37 Nizhnia_Gladkovka: very heavy explosions
    10:38 Naberezhna heard cannonade
    Kalinin market:rolling boom

    10:35 #Donetsk @NeilRem: 'What is detonated there?'
    @Serzzze:
    railway hospital, Gvardeyka: Series of distant heavy explosions

    10:35 #Donetsk
    @Shimshen: #Grad|s worked.
    @ropogckou: 'I didn't hear'
    @OldHistoric: #Makeevka: heavy volleys tow/Gvardeyka

    10:35 #Donetsk Schetinina
    @DoneckiiPatriot: 'Rumble was heard What was it?'
    @padresancho1: Heavy volleys from Makeevka, MRLS?

    10:17 #Donetsk Budenovsky ds @UrriKara4en: RUS artillery still shells nearby, 2 shots in a row, vibration over the ground&air

    08:45 #Donetsk
    @DoneckiiPatriot: Schetinina - sounds of 3 explosions were heard
    @BylByleva: "2 explosions (west)"
    #donbasreports

    It has been normal that the Russian mercenaries ALAWYS escort the OSCE vehicles when thye move around—notice nothing with the set of OSCE vehicles—has been in the past a clear indicator that there are Russian mercenaries in the vehicles—which is a clear violation even by OSCE’s poor standard of neutrality in the Ukraine. There is no OSCE freedom of movement inside the occupied mercenary zones.

    This apparent neutrality violation by the OSCE would not have been seen by the West without Twitter reporting.

    08:40 #Shakhtarsk @olegdon3: 10 #OSCE jeeps fr/#Donetsk direction towards #Torez. No escort. 'Are orcs in their cars w/them?

    11:15 #Donetsk, Kalinovka, Med.Inst @98760333: Volley in the southwest
    11:21 Rumble from #Krasniy_Pakhar direction
    #Donetsk Kalinovka
    11:15 @Serzzze Dull heavy booms
    @Little_angel_M 'Like giant heart's beat, car alarms went off'
    #Donetsk Proletarsky @DoneckiiPatriot:
    11:14 Volleys from Budenovsky ds direction one after another
    11:16 It's getting louder
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    When an American conservative is mad about the U.S., he blames Obama. When a Russian conservative is mad about Russia, he blames Obama, too.

    Rus-backed militants double number of attacks at Ukr forces: fired 31times from 6pm till midnight - 15 over same time y-day -ATO news center

    Extremely important link to understand Russian gangs and Russian gang violence:

    OCCRP Launches Killers Inc. Their first investigative doc on Kermlin linked violent fueds and crime https://occrp.org/occrp/en/announcem...ve-documentary … via @OCCRP

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    http://zik.com.ua/en/news/2015/04/18..._donbas_582336

    Ukraine has evidence of Russian army involvement in Donbas

    Ukraine army general staff chief Gen. Viktor Muzhenko says there is a list of all Russian units currently deployed in Donbas along with their deployment sites, weapons and numbers of troops, Radio Svoboda reports Apr. 18.

    Muzhenko’s statement came on the heels of Putin’s Apr. 17 assurances that there are no Russian troops in Donbas.

    The Russian units were involved in the fighting for Debaltseve, Chornukhino and Lohvinovo, the general said.“Currently, we have reconnaissance confirming that 15th Brigade (Central military district’s 2nd army), the 8th infantry Brigade, the 331st paratrooper regiment from Kostroma-based 98th paratroopers’ division and other units are in Donbas,” the general said.

    In January, there were no documents confirming the presence of Russian troops in Donbas because they were deployed in the rear, he noted.

    The first direct involvement of the Russian army happened during the battle for Ilovajsk in August, 2014, when the Russians could stop the successful advance of the Ukrainian army on the separatists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    What is interesting with this statement by the top Russian mercenary is the simple fact that;

    1. Minsk 1 and 2 on the exchange of POWs has never been fulfilled by Russian and her mercenaries with still over 400 Ukrainian civilians and military prisoners known to be alive not exchanged—in fact there are solid hearsay a number have been moved to Russian territory
    2. the Russian troops and her mercenaries never did comply wit the verifiable withdrawal of heavy weapons and blamed the Ukrainians constantly
    3. Russia has maintained a massive resupply of both troops, weapons, fuel and munitions into the Ukraine strictly against the Minsk agreements
    4. with every ceasefire the Russian troops and her mercenaries never did actually “ceasefire” but used them as a cover to position for new offensives that gathered only more Ukrainian territory under their control

    BUT what both Russia and her mercenaries are really attempting to sidestep and massively sidestep is the simple fact that the core demand by Russia for a “special zone law for the occupied territories” was in fact passed and signed into law BUT with a significant catch that Russia did not see coming nor anticipated—namely the Ukrainians tied the new law to the single demand ALSO written into Minsk 1 and 2 all elections must be under Ukrainian election laws, be free and independent and transparent AND must conform to Ukrainian overall law---THUS really a de facto recognition by Russia that the occupied territories are actually Ukrainian AND actually this same opinion was echoed by a number of the mercenary sub commanders who had become dissatisfied by Russia allowing Minsk 1 and 2 to occur. and have voiced recently their thoughts on the matter.

    MANY social media types--notice no western government representatives ---have stated Russia would never allow the elections to occur which is what this statement below aims at—stopping any such election and law form going into effect.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32363766

    Ukraine rebel leader Zakharchenko asserts claims
    You should tell the whole story: They not just want "Kiev" to accept independence of the now-occupied territory but the entire Donbas that they have not been able to overrun with Russian troop assistance and weapons..

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    Social media sees the Russian attack patterns but Western leaders are all looking in the opposite direction to avoid making decisions or simply “out for coffee and forgot to check their email”—strange is it not???

    If not for social media reporting and a number of rather brave US, Ukrainian and European reporters nothing would be known about what is ongoing in eastern Ukraine as most of the mainstream western media is rather silent on it these days--wonder why????

    #Russia's proxies attacked Ukr troops in Tryokhizbenka, combat started at 10.30 and is reportedly on. 3 Ukr are WIA http://informator.lg.ua/?p=85499#more-85499

    For 1 year: same pattern. Russia makes OSCE-observed "ceasefire". Then, when Russia is ready, all hell breaks loose and they assault/occupy.

    Plus, on Russian side of border, west of Taganrog, Russian mechanised divisions finish rotation and concentrate force.

    Ceasefire holding in #Shyrokyne is a chimera. Russian ground forces continue to deploy armor to Novoazovsk staging post

    AND they have been again reporting the heavy shelling increases and steady ground attacks which are also increasing to the January levels and notice a few comments from the NATO SACEUR BUT nothing out of the entire Western leadership.

    #Russia|n forces moved column of artillery towards #Mariupol. #DPR received 13 rail cars weapons and ammo - ATO

    In Luhansk area Ukr positions were under RU fire @ Shchastya, Shnyzne, Novotoshkivske, Stanytsia Luhanska, Krymske, Sokolniki

    ATO presser: 31 ceasefire violations Apr 17 from 6PM to 12PM.
    That's a lot, i think the highest number i've seen since Minsk2.

    In 16 April #Russia|n forces moved 15x T-72 tanks, 15x BMP-2, 20x trucks from #Donetsk to #Novoazovsk http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...15_tankov.html

    Heavy fighting in #Donetsk all night and ongoing this morning. Many locals write it's now like in January again

    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, April 18, 12:00 EET pic.twitter.com/iQW4VKeq3R

    #Tryokhizbenka @Karbatovsky Battle at 10-11, attackers & gunning fr/#Krasniy_Liman http://bit.ly/1FUr6KC . 2 injured UKR
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Death Toll Rises to 29 in Khakasiya Fires; Amur Situation Worse with 12 New Fires http://bit.ly/1H87zdP pic.twitter.com/a3RnIM724W
    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.de/...e-victims.html

    Saturday, April 18, 2015

    Aid Can’t Reach Siberian Fire Victims Because All Transport ‘Being Used for the Donbas’

    Paul Goble

    Staunton, April 18 – In a clearer indication of Moscow’s priorities than Vladimir Putin’s speeches and of Russia’s difficulties at home than Moscow TV, St. Petersburg activists who have collected three tons of humanitarian aid for fire victims in Khakasia have been told by officials that there are no vehicles available because “everything is going for the Donbas.”

    In a note posted on Kasparov.ru today, Yury Merezhko reports that the Vesna youth organization in the northern capital has on its own collected “about three tons of humanitarian assistance for those suffering from fires in Khakasia” but there is “no transport” available to get it there (kasparov.ru/material.php?id=5531E95BA111A).
    No one in the group has the funds for moving so much aid 5,000 kilometers and so its members turned to the local office of the emergency situations ministry. They responded, he says, with the following words: “there are no machines. None at all. Everything is going for the Donbas. But we of course will think about what could be done.”

    Merezhko says that he fully understands that the situation in the Donbas is not an easy one. “But. First of all,Khakasia is in fire right now, it is our country, and the Donbas all the same isn’t, however much some may want it to be.” Once again, history is being “repeated: Russia is helping “everyone except its own citizens.”

    And there is a second reason for concern, he continues. If the emergency situations ministry is so strapped when it comes to transportation, what might happen in St. Petersburg if something terrible occurred there. Could the authorities respond? Or would then simply blame things on “opposition arsonists” and then do nothing.

    “I don’t know what to do,” the activist says. “I have only one thought: to raise a stink in the media to bring this attention to the very top and perhaps at least the leadership of our city will remember than ‘we don’t sacrifice Russians’” – even if that is what appears to be going on in this and many other cases as well.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 04-18-2015 at 04:23 PM.

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