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    IF Russian had not been so busy fighting in the Ukraine and annexing Crimea they could have fulfilled the FTA requirements since they have known all along what they are.

    EU has stated everything goes forward on 1 Jan 2016 and Russia can no longer have a say in what EU does and or does not do with the trade association agreement which has been almost ratified by all EU members much to the Russian surprise.

    Russia asks EU to delay FTA implementation with Ukraine until 2017http://www.unian.info/economics/1075...ntil-2017.html

    Seems Russia is still trying to get a voice at the EU table and have the right to stop anything that pertains to the Ukraine--EU Commissions response to the Russia was "drop dead" we are going forward 1.1.2016.

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    I have been commenting here a number of times that this is the biggest "dream" of Putin--he really does dream of sitting down with the US and "dividing up" the world into Russian and US "spheres of influence".

    Befitting a great superpower he thinks both he and Russia are--but he forgot that a military superpower MUST be as well an economic powerhouse which Russia is not.

    The Russian regime has been asking for a second Yalta for at least a year. https://twitter.com/JSaryuszWolski/s...84119382429696

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    Russian MT-LB spotted in Kirovsk is newest model.
    http://muromteplovoz.ru/product/mil.php
    http://twitter.com/ravelin_by/status...com/eRmd2oidCZ
    via @ravelin_by

    Shellings have started really early today:

    13:19 #Horlivka center @DobryShubin Somewhere from #Yenakiieve/Kalinovka direction volleys are heard

    13:02 #Horlivka @Irinkakap Something heavy shells dull far away from the north or northeast.

    #Shakhtarsk 12:50
    10 russian Ural / Kamaz with fighters, field kitchen on trailers towards east. https://twitter.com/Helgi__UA/stat

    12:50 #Donetsk @DoneckiiPatriot 2 BMP returned along Dzerzhynskogo Ave tow/reional police office

    VIDEO Russian armor in Kirovske, Lugansk oblast geolocated
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezj9vj0-Aho
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV1vKzNQq80 … pic.twitter.com/246zZEvWjm

    Russian armor in Kirovske, Luhansk region http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-r...luhansk-regionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV1vKzNQq80 … #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/O0q21jk1vD via @DajeyPetros

    Poroshenko demands from Russian militants to withdraw "all equipment in next few hours" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-p...o-withdraw-all … via @tsnua

    Five Ukrainian soldiers killed, 12 wounded in past 24 hours, according to #Ukraine military. Casualties on the increase ahead of Victory Day
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    Did not the Russian FM and MoD declare the US to be lying about Russian AD systems inside the Ukraine--seems they "forgot" to count a few more--these three make it six that have been confirmed just in the last two days alone and a bunch more via videos taken and geo tagged in the Ukraine over the last six months:

    #Shakhtarsk
    3x Strela-10 SAM's and 2 russian Ural trucks towards #Torez. https://twitter.com/Helgi__UA/status/595899750416715777

    #Donetsk 1:36PM
    Motels - 15 Kamaz and 3 BTR full of fighters towards #Makeevka. https://twitter.com/MelihovKostia/st...99874715037696

    14:15 #Donetsk Kyivsky ds @UrriKara4en "Approx in Saint Iveron Convent area a small smoke mashroom, something was hit?"

    Militants used MLRS Grad in Pisky http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-m...-grad-in-pisky … #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/YSqyLNRTW5 via @SputnikATO

    Citizen of #Belarus who fought for #Russia'n-backed militants in #Donbas buried in native town http://belsat.eu/en/articles/citizen...d-native-town/ … pic.twitter.com/GZ9YWvmaBp

    The #Kremlin’s wars in #Afghanistan and in #Ukraine: ten parallels
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/05/0...ten-parallels/ … pic.twitter.com/GOeIufqsFr
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More and more evidence is even "leaking out of Russia" concerning the shooting down of MH17--question is if individuals inside the Putin inner circle including the Russian Defense Minister end up being charged for the shot down--HOW will Russia respond??

    Another interesting point is that this has been driven by social media open source analysts from the very beginning who were bascially from the start totally correct down to the exact Russian BUK per number that fired the misssile AND nothing was ever provided by any western intel agency--just how strange is that??

    Novaya Gazeta posted leaked report by Russian engineers which proves that MH17 was shot down by BUK M-1 http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html

    Published a report from Russian experts (not propaganda) that BUK downed #MH17.
    Was fired from S. of v.Zaroshenskoe


    Approximate coordinates where the BUK was fired: 2.5-3.5km radius, 47.979855, 38.448580

    NOW watch the Russian media and their trolls "spin" the story back to the already debunked "it was an Ukrainian BUK"--taking online bets on exactly how long it takes them from the release of an evidently very accurate Russian analysis of the shot down????????

    Interesting question is why was it released now??? After attempting to pin it on a Ukrainian ground attack fighter--maybe trying to get ahead of the Dutch investigation results and pending charges.
    Looks like the Russians were "fudging" on the missile launch site:

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Looks like there's more and more evidence that the claimed launch area in the leaked Russian MH17 report is false

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Russian engineers’ report on MH17 crash ‘based on fake photos from Russian General Staff’ http://www.unian.info/war/1075119-ru...ral-staff.html

    Russian aviation expert Lukashevich debunks MH17 "leaked expert report": damage patterns don't match presented claims http://www.buran.ru/MH17/ng.jpg

    A little review of RU claims about #MH17. :-D pic.twitter.com/cVQduMCwd4
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    .@OSCE_SMM: Massing of Russia-backed separatist forces, increased military movement in #MinskAgreement off-limit area
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm

    Russian-Backed Separatists Have Captured 28 Towns and Villages Since February's 'Ceasefire' http://bit.ly/1JqJ2Qp pic.twitter.com/S8CYOxTTND

    #Minsk ceasefire deal is dead - Lithuanian President http://uatoday.tv/politics/minsk-cea...nt-425631.html … pic.twitter.com/lM5dObGvPQ

    Russia continues to mass soldiers and armor near Mariupol (Video)
    http://www.unian.info/war/1075164-ru...pol-video.html

    Notice the Russian “altered state of reality” is lashing out at even now the EU;
    Russia (which occupies part of Ukraine) accuses EU (which occupies no part of Ukraine) of not wanting peace... http://bit.ly/1GOhO3t

    Zakharchenko: Ukrainian security forces will start provocations in "DPR" on May 8 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-z...t-provocations … #Ukraine via @lifenews_ru
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    Shellings and ground attacks have slowed way down today--need to see if this continues through the evening and into night time.

    A lot of military equipment on the move as well as troops but no real fighting as of yet today.

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    http://uatoday.tv/news/poroshenko-re...le-425635.html

    Poroshenko: Revision of Minsk agreement unacceptable

    Ukrainian President speaks to delegates of the Trilateral Contact Group on resolving Donbas confilct

    UNIAN: Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Wednesday that no revision of the Minsk agreement was acceptable to Ukraine, and called on Russia to implement it in full.

    The president was speaking during a meeting with Ukrainian delegates to sub-working groups of the Trilateral Contact Group on finding a peaceful settlement to the situation in the Donbas, according to the press office of the head of the state.

    "No reversals, no changes in format, no deviations from Minsk agreements are acceptable or admissible to us," the press office said, quoting the Ukrainian president.

    "No revisions of the Minsk agreement will be accepted by Ukraine, nor by our international partners. We strongly urge the signatories of the agreement in Minsk, primarily the Russian Federation, to undertake exhaustive measures to ensure the implementation of the Minsk agreement in full," Poroshenko said.
    NOTICE after the DNR and LNR reps stated they would not attend the ongoing Minsk talks—they flew in this morning—someone must have called from Moscow.

    However Interfax-Belarus reports that representatives from both the DNR and their fellow separatists in the Lugansk region are present today.

    Both Denis Pushlin and Vladislav Daynevo (representatives for the DNR and LNR respectively) flew into Minsk this morning and are participating in the talks.

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    After a number of recent Russian threats to use tactical nuclear weapons even against the US it is wise to understand Russian nuclear doctrine updated 2012 and again in 2013.

    #Russia|n theory of nuclear use ..
    Escalate to de-escalate
    pic.twitter.com/0Nb3D08h6X

    #Russia|n theory of nuclear de-escalation: pic.twitter.com/ueH3AFM2wz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Shellings and ground attacks have slowed way down today--need to see if this continues through the evening and into night time.

    A lot of military equipment on the move as well as troops but no real fighting as of yet today.
    Has started again this evening--how intense will be the question---

    #News
    One civilian was injured (and a cow killed) in Russian mortar shelling of #Dzerzhinsk suburbs c. from #Horlivka.
    Three homes damaged.

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    EUCOM commander/SACEUR @PMBreedlove: The U.S./NATO must adapt. The stakes are high but we must not shy away from that because...Russia is not.

    We are now just a few days away from a Russian general offensive and an Ukrainian defensive operation—it really is strange—the West remains silent--almost as if they do not really care any more.

    The Russians are waiting for this round of Minsk talks to conclude with nothing really happening there and then his super large parade to occur—then we are off to the races.

    movement on both sides of contact line,significant amount of “DPR” infantry forces in #Donetsk #Ukraine http://www.osce.org/node/155346

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    Tymchuk: intense Russian shelling of Ukrainian positions continues & Russia has massed dozens of armoured vehicles/3000 troops near Mariupol

    Russia continues to blame everyone else for their buildup and ceasefire violations before they attack Mariupol.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0NQ1RB20150505
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    Putin advises Ukrainian refugees should "earn their living on their own"
    http://www.unian.info/politics/10752...their-own.html … pic.twitter.com/ecF2YUMz7t

    Appears the Russia is not so friendly in supporting ethnic proRussians who fled the Ukraine for Russia--maybe he is all out of money??


    Russia still has not given up on creating a single economic/political zone under her control from Portugal to the Russian Far East----
    Strong emphasis on Eurasia in Lavrov's Vienna speech. http://mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/E3CB7E7A11...257E3D003D4323 … pic.twitter.com/4k7U0kXgpj

    What he really wants is the destruction of the EU and kicking the US out of Europe--why he sees both as neo liberal. Destruction of western neo liberalism is a mainstream theme for Russian fascists.

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    Shellings this evening are actually on the light side of what has been the norm lately—strange—but heavy troop and equipment movements by both sides –more so the mercenary side as they are moving up both troops and heavy weapons back into the front lines in clear violation of Minsk 2.

    Hranitne was mortared by #Russia-backed militants. 60y.o. civilian is injured, in hospital now http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...yj_zhitel.html … pic.twitter.com/2P3WmhXeaL

    These four aircraft have been sitting on the ground for an extended period-unusual for that to happen in the Russian AF as this is not their standard airbase.

    4x Russian Air Force IL-76 heavy transport aircraft at Taganrog, Russia (45km from Ukraine) 6 May (via @GirkinGirkin) pic.twitter.com/LUSHcBQDsh

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    Shelling intensity is now up as are the ground attacks including Russian SF troops reported for the first time since Debaltseve fighting.

    22:42 #Donetsk @14720Maro I can hear shooting & see shimmering red lights going up over Kalinovka in SE

    22:37 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Automatic guns fr/#Yakovlivka direction & signal rockets
    22:40 #Donetsk @BylByleva_ Rumble

    Rumble in #Tryokhizbenka-#Slovyanoserbsk area - heavy artillery, MLRS http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-

    22:40 #Donetsk @papandopoolo Pretty loud rumble heard in the center, various calibres
    @Al_Pod Center hears from Kalinovka d-n

    22:38 #Donetsk @rechnikato They shoot a UAV down again. A signal rocket in #Pisky direction

    Luhansk - flashes visible in E qrtrs. They're firing tow Stanitsya Luhanska fr the Prince Igor monum.
    https://twitter.com/LuhanskHunta/sta...43336512905216

    22:38 #Donetsk @HuAdvokatos Atempts to shoot a UAV down again

    22:22 @qpaust About an hour ago there was rumble in #Tryokhizbenka-#Slovyanoserbsk area - heavy artillery, MRLS

    22:10 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Some skirmish in Grigorievka area like AGL. Several red signal rockets

    Militants shell ATO forces from banned weapons 32 times on May 6
    http://www.unian.info/war/1075325-mi...-on-may-6.html … pic.twitter.com/Gi3zeoDK42

    Near Stanitsya Luhanska - war.
    22:50 https://twitter.com/100007182042214/...42280064131075
    #Ukraine soldiers report about movement of #Russia special forces near #Stanytsia #Luhanska

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    Poroshenko: over 90,000 Russian-backed militants, regular troops in Donbas
    http://www.unian.info/war/1075302-po...in-donbas.html … pic.twitter.com/8oWSWZJk2X
    40,000 #Russia|n-backed militants, regular troops in Donbas, 50000 at border

    These pictures show 2 T-72B1 that were sent to Donbas after participation in the show "Tank Biathlon"
    pic.twitter.com/rKGVONrJQF
    via @askai707

    And here is one more...
    pic.twitter.com/3SIYGaCx50
    @askai707

    Spot the difference 1. Left: Russian MVD Internal troops in Moscow. Right: Russian "DPR" Internal troops in Donetsk. pic.twitter.com/xZ4r3qid1X

    Spot the difference 2. Left: Russian EMERCOM Civil Defence troops. Right: Russian "DPR" Civil Defence troops Donetsk. pic.twitter.com/5SnPh07tTQ

    Non-stop fighting at #Ukraine frontline, but "consensus' on paper after a meeting of a "contact group" in #Minsk. http://zn.ua/POLITICS/v-minske-zaver...y-175275_.html

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    #Breaking
    "Russian military on Ukrainian soil"
    @BILD again 1st German newspaper reporting it.
    http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/m...0116.bild.html … pic.twitter.com/aTXLKln8c4

    War criminal Zakharchenko says 'Ukrainian provocations' will start on May 8th. So prepare for nasty Russian tricks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-p8eDJixNk
    Zakharchenko, head of Donetsk says his "Republic" is as rich as Arab Emirates because it has coal & metallurgy.A real clown

    More Russian heavy weapons from photos on Russian FaceBook
    pp.vk.me/c625320/v625320069/28130/DK_WY9T9ZEY.jpg …
    https://pp.vk.me/c625320/v625320069/...qERvVENHXs.jpg
    pic.twitter.com/DtlJSDSdZp

    Lookingglass Cyber Intelligence Group Links #Russia to #Cyber Espionage Campaign Targeting #Ukraine Govt -v @LGScout
    https://lgscout.com/lookingglass-cyb...ary-officials/

    Social Network Analysis Reveals Full Scale of #Kremlin's Twitter #Bot Campaign - @LawrenceA_UK
    http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/0...-twitter-bots/ … pic.twitter.com/WIRiAahLN5
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Shelling intensity is now up as are the ground attacks including Russian SF troops reported for the first time since Debaltseve fighting.

    22:42 #Donetsk @14720Maro I can hear shooting & see shimmering red lights going up over Kalinovka in SE

    22:37 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Automatic guns fr/#Yakovlivka direction & signal rockets
    22:40 #Donetsk @BylByleva_ Rumble

    Rumble in #Tryokhizbenka-#Slovyanoserbsk area - heavy artillery, MLRS http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-

    22:40 #Donetsk @papandopoolo Pretty loud rumble heard in the center, various calibres
    @Al_Pod Center hears from Kalinovka d-n

    22:38 #Donetsk @rechnikato They shoot a UAV down again. A signal rocket in #Pisky direction

    Luhansk - flashes visible in E qrtrs. They're firing tow Stanitsya Luhanska fr the Prince Igor monum.
    https://twitter.com/LuhanskHunta/sta...43336512905216

    22:38 #Donetsk @HuAdvokatos Atempts to shoot a UAV down again

    22:22 @qpaust About an hour ago there was rumble in #Tryokhizbenka-#Slovyanoserbsk area - heavy artillery, MRLS

    22:10 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Some skirmish in Grigorievka area like AGL. Several red signal rockets

    Militants shell ATO forces from banned weapons 32 times on May 6
    http://www.unian.info/war/1075325-mi...-on-may-6.html … pic.twitter.com/Gi3zeoDK42

    Near Stanitsya Luhanska - war.
    22:50 https://twitter.com/100007182042214/...42280064131075
    #Ukraine soldiers report about movement of #Russia special forces near #Stanytsia #Luhanska
    Ash Carter: Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine appear “prepared for another round of military actionhttp://news.usni.org/2015/05/06/secd...oad-to-nowhere

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    #Pictures
    New Russian tanks arrive in #Donetsk.
    One carries "Orjol Oblast"-similar flag.

    pic.twitter.com/q7ggBPw1o9

    New Russian tanks arriving in #Donetsk? Video from today: https://instagram.com/p/2V5SqSRe4K/ Not painted for the parade... pic.twitter.com/PfpJIXrrz4

    Russian Ground Forces sneak tanks into Donetsk under cover of 9 May #VictoryDayParade rehearsals... https://twitter.com/el_roosevelt/sta...57221479432192

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    Ash Carter: Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine appear “prepared for another round of military action” http://news.usni.org/2015/05/06/secd...oad-to-nowhere
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