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    Sometimes one has to wonder what the Russian OSCE members are smoking as they mentioned in this press release "Ukrainian volunteer units
    ---effectively all former "volunteer units" has been merged into the Ukrainian Army, or the National guard and or the MoI.

    How can they now be in charge of a Minsk 2 Working Group when they do not even understand reality on the ground and especially are seemingly rejecting the simple fact that the Russian mercenaries and Russian troops are not even in compliance with Minsk 2?

    http://tass.ru/en/world/795011

    Ukrainian combat activities threatening ceasefire near Shirokino — Russia’s OSCE envoy
    May 15, 21:44 UTC+3

    Kelin is doubtful that relevant agreements would be negotiated at a next meeting of the working group in charge of military affairs at the Contact Group on resolving the Ukraine conflict

    VIENNA, May 15. /TASS/. Activity of volunteer battalions near the village of Shirokino in embattled Donbas hampers the conclusion of an agreement on a local ceasefire, Russia’s Permanent Representative to the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Andrei Kelin told TASS on Friday.

    Kelin is doubtful that relevant agreements would be negotiated at a next meeting of the working group in charge of military affairs at the Contact Group on resolving the Ukraine conflict.

    "All this is not so realistic since Ukrainian forces, especially volunteer battalions, are interfering, and in particular, are hampering the OSCE observers’ work," he said adding "Azov battalion fighters have been occupying an OSCE permanent observation point in the area of Shirokino for about two weeks and they have not abandoned it yet."

    At the same time, Kelin underscored that participants of the Contact Group "are exerting all the efforts for reaching agreements to stop reciprocal shelling and to disengage troops near Shirokino.".
    NOTICE the Orwellian "double speak" in progress---it is the fault that the Azov BN is creating a problem---BUT at the same time OSCE has verified countless artillery strikes by Russian mercenaries on positions of the Azov.

    AND BBC news teams have verified it as well complete with video and audio evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Sometimes one has to wonder what the Russian OSCE members are smoking as they mentioned in this press release "Ukrainian volunteer units
    ---effectively all former "volunteer units" has been merged into the Ukrainian Army, or the National guard and or the MoI.

    How can they now be in charge of a Minsk 2 Working Group when they do not even understand reality on the ground and especially are seemingly rejecting the simple fact that the Russian mercenaries and Russian troops are not even in compliance with Minsk 2?

    http://tass.ru/en/world/795011

    Ukrainian combat activities threatening ceasefire near Shirokino — Russia’s OSCE envoy
    May 15, 21:44 UTC+3
    Will the OSCE Working Group as part of Minsk 2 Agreement recognize finally that Russian troops are in the Ukraine--that might make finding a way forward really easy.

    To give them some assistance the following is provided.

    Russian VDV (spetsnaz?) Nikolay Semenov (L) in Ukraine somewhere between border and #Shyrokyne with 'friends' (R) pic.twitter.com/BzkOb2viJk
    Source: https://vk.com/albums106286742?profile=1

    Photos: Russian VDV soldier now in Novoazovsk Raion, Ukraine (E of Shyrokyne)
    https://vk.com/albums106286742?profile=1 … pic.twitter.com/KS8DpSeQ1S

    Archive: https://archive.is/vymqN Photos of Nikolay Semenov (VDV, spetsnaz) from Novoazovsk May 2015 back to Georgia War 2008

    Nikolay Semenov, Russian VDV: Dec 2013 photos (for unit ID) Photos of him back to Georgia 2008 pic.twitter.com/t6aGRwdsXW
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    Seems the Russian mercenaries truly did not read the Minsk 2 document they themselves even signed—border control belongs to the Ukrainians per the Minsk 2 document and OSCE is to roam the entire mercenary occupied areas BUT is not being allowed to do that thus a direct violation of Minsk 2.

    'LNR' Tells OSCE That They Control All Border Crossings With Russia http://bit.ly/1A77cQ3

    #Russian-occupied #Crimea's "Deputy Minister of Interior" has some racy past well documented in some risky photos. https://twitter.com/krymrealii/statu...79560094576640

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Will the OSCE Working Group as part of Minsk 2 Agreement recognize finally that Russian troops are in the Ukraine--that might make finding a way forward really easy.

    To give them some assistance the following is provided.

    Russian VDV (spetsnaz?) Nikolay Semenov (L) in Ukraine somewhere between border and #Shyrokyne with 'friends' (R) pic.twitter.com/BzkOb2viJk
    Source: https://vk.com/albums106286742?profile=1

    Photos: Russian VDV soldier now in Novoazovsk Raion, Ukraine (E of Shyrokyne) https://vk.com/albums106286742?profile=1 … pic.twitter.com/KS8DpSeQ1S

    Archive: https://archive.is/vymqN Photos of Nikolay Semenov (VDV, spetsnaz) from Novoazovsk May 2015 back to Georgia War 2008

    Nikolay Semenov, Russian VDV: Dec 2013 photos (for unit ID) Photos of him back to Georgia 2008 pic.twitter.com/t6aGRwdsXW
    Someone needs to tell the Russian OSCE members that they have a Russian Special Forces unit "lost" somewhere close to major hot spot in current fighting inside the Ukraine so what the heck is he doing there???

    Anyone recognise/decipher this flag? Russian VDV soldier currently in Ukraine somewhere east of Shyrokyne /old photospic.twitter.com/JUb4M3XQdf

    2nd Separate Brigade of Special Operation Forces, Special Forces of Russian armed forces.

    2nd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade of GRU is based in Pskov, Russia https://burkonews.info/about-the-rus...rigade-of-gru/ … and http://warfare.be/db/catid/239

    More info on the 2nd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade of GRU https://translate.google.ie/translat...%2F&edit-text= … and https://informnapalm.org/1624-2-ya-o...-gru-v-ukrayne
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    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/0...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Military update 5.15

    Posted on May 15, 2015 by chervonaruta

    Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

    Operational data from Information Resistance:

    During the last 24 hours, Russian troop terrorist formations shelled the ATO forces positions and civilian objects in the vicinity of Pisky, Krasnohorivka, Mariinka using heavy weapons (120-mm mortars, multiple firings from 122-mm cannon artillery). In the area of Avdiivka and Lozovoye, militants have used armored vehicles (“roaming” tanks and firing groups on board of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers).

    Near Shyrokyne, Russian-terrorist infantry groups made repeated attempts to engage Ukrainian advanced units with heavy fire from small arms, as well as 82-mm and 120-mm mortars.

    In Luhansk oblast, near Hirske, Novotoshkivske, Krymske, and Sokolniki, [pro-Russian] insurgents continue to fire mortars and small arms; we are also observing increased activity of the enemy’s sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

    In the vicinity of Vesela Hora and Shchastya, sniper pairs are operating under cover provided by insurgent firing groups (AGS plus heavy machine guns, or units armed with 82-mm or 120-mm mortars).

    Also, in the region of Stanytsia Luhanska, terrorists opened fire several times, using AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers and heavy-caliber machine guns.

    * * *

    Two insurgent tactical groups concentrated in the Petrovskyi and Kirovskyi districts of Donetsk continue receiving renovated and restored military equipment. We have reports of the arrival of 4 refurbished tanks (one T-64, three T-72) and infantry fighting vehicles: three BMP-2 and 1 BMP-1. The equipment is being concentrated mainly in the industrial areas. Terrorist formations in the area of Spartak and in the Kyivskyi District of Donetsk also received reinforcements – 8 MT-LB, 6 BTR-80 and 3 BTR-70.

    In the Kyivsky District of Donetsk, we identified camouflaged heavy weapons (“remaining after the parade”): D-30 122-mm howitzers and MSTA-B 152-mm howitzers, a total of 28 units. Some of these weapons are occasionally used for shelling the settlements of Pisky, Avdiivka and Opytne.

    A group of Russian servicemen (up to 25 people) arrived into Olenivka from the Petrovskyi District of Donetsk (2 APCs and two Ural trucks). The group’s weapons includes two “Pecheneg” PKP machine guns (officially only used by the military in Russia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan).

    Reinforcements continue arriving to the units stationed in the northwestern part of the “Horlivka Garrison” (which are shelling and making occasional attempts to attack Ukrainian positions in the vicinity of Mayorska and Shumy). Over the last 3 days, the following forces have arrived in this area: a composite tank company (seven T-72B3 tanks), two infantry groups (total strength up to 200 personnel), and an artillery-mortar unit (six 120-mm caliber mortars, three 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery guns, and several D-30 howitzers).

    An insurgent tactical group of up to 100 personnel, which had earlier incurred heavy losses in clashes with the ATO forces, has been withdrawn from the vicinity of Shyrokyne to the area of Novoazovsk, for resupplying. The tactical group is being resupplied with Russian mercenaries (some 50 personnel), who arrived from Russia and underwent training in the training center in Rostov oblast (Russia).

    Over the last 24 hours, we observed increased traffic of insurgent transport vehicles in the northern part of the occupied territory – between Luhansk and Alchevsk, from Alchevsk and Perevalsk towards Stakhanov and Pervomaisk; at nighttime, armored vehicles were seen moving along the Bakhmut highway from Slovyanoserbsk towards Zholobok, as well as between Horlivka, Makiivka, and Yenakijeve. We also observed active movement of military transport around the Donetsk “hub” and to the south of Luhansk (in the direction of Lutuhyne – Krasnyi Luch).

    * * *

    In Luhansk, local “bodies of the LNR [Luhansk People’s Republic] Ministry of State Security” are searching for a group of “phone terrorists” consisting of pro-Ukrainian local residents. Specifically, unknown people have been purposefully trolling and mocking the “LNR state authorities” for a long time already, using publicly available telephone numbers (information desks, official duty numbers, etc.)

    In the territory controlled by the “LNR” and “DNR” [Donetsk People’s Republic], the “state authorities” of the terrorist organizations are widely using the tax and notary databases for illicit activities – specifically, concerning the property of people who were forced to relocate to other regions of Ukraine or abroad. The newly-sprung “officials” are actively selling information about the property of people who present an interest to insurgents and other criminals.

    According to the statements of the “government” representatives of the “DNR” and “LNR,” the problems with food supply to the occupied regions are being “gradually resolved.” The “humanitarian convoys” of Rinat Akhmetov play a significant part in the “improvement of the situation.”

    In settlements controlled by the “LNR” and “DNR,” members of the local criminal world are increasingly often attacking Russian mercenaries and servicemen who receive considerable money rewards for their participation in combat in Donbas. In Luhansk, a Russian mercenary was victim of an armed assault and robbery (receiving multiple stab wounds). Local “law enforcers” are also investigating an assault and robbery of a Russian officer, who was attacked by unknown persons who beat him and took his “two months’ wages.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Sometimes one has to wonder what the Russian OSCE members are smoking as they mentioned in this press release "Ukrainian volunteer units
    ---effectively all former "volunteer units" has been merged into the Ukrainian Army, or the National guard and or the MoI.

    How can they now be in charge of a Minsk 2 Working Group when they do not even understand reality on the ground and especially are seemingly rejecting the simple fact that the Russian mercenaries and Russian troops are not even in compliance with Minsk 2?

    http://tass.ru/en/world/795011

    Ukrainian combat activities threatening ceasefire near Shirokino — Russia’s OSCE envoy
    May 15, 21:44 UTC+3



    NOTICE the Orwellian "double speak" in progress---it is the fault that the Azov BN is creating a problem---BUT at the same time OSCE has verified countless artillery strikes by Russian mercenaries on positions of the Azov.

    AND BBC news teams have verified it as well complete with video and audio evidence.
    Maybe this is the reason they are so agitated.
    "Azov" destroyed separatists' firing points in #Shyrokyne. pic.twitter.com/CBqS9Z3gIB

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    It appears the Russian mercenaries have the night off---little to no shellings or ground probes as of yet--last night began seriously between 00:00 and 01:00.


    VIDEO This is how Russian Hybrids are digging trenches: with handgrenades.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAbIb1tiR4g … pic.twitter.com/n1FbukxmIE
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    All quiet on #Ukraine's eastern front. Dawn on the Sea of #Azov pic.twitter.com/Qs7ChWAS0Q

    Seems that the Russia's heard the misspoken statement or was it "misspoken" that if the ceasefire is fully peaceful THEN sanctions come off.

    Relatively quiet night--to quiet actually.

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    Now that it is a few days after Sochi AND we now fully understand Russia and Putin will not implement Minsk 2--SO what is exactly the next move by Kerry and Obama other than allowing Russia to annex eastern Ukraine/

    Notice after all the heavy shellings and ground attacks that occurred since Sochi--all we have had out of DC is utter SILENCE --that is now no longer strange as it is a signal they have thrown the Ukraine under the bus in exchange for Iran and Syria--there cannot be any other explanation for their total silence.

    There can be no other explanation for Obama vetoing the defense funding for 300M USDs for the Ukraine. He and Kerry stating Russia "must" implement fully Minsk 2 is just a waste of words as Russia will not accept free elections in the occupied zones UNDER Ukrainian election laws--not after the massive cost in money and blood Putin has invested into eastern Ukraine.

    #BREAKINGNEWS
    The "People's Republic of #Luhansk" declares 2 km wide corridor along entire Ukrainian-Russian border #NoGoZone for @OSCE_SMM.

    Forget #Minsk2. Russia & its local puppet regimes have no interest in it.
    It was a stillbirth fr. the very beginning.http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/boeviki-lnr-zap...f-176229_.html

    Did Kerry #Russia visit signal start of West capitulation on #Ukraine? Are sanctions failing? Does #Putin always win? http://nyti.ms/1d4hab1

    Canada OSCE ✔ @Canada2OSCE
    We recall the need for #Russia to finalise its troop/ammo withdrawal from Transnistrian region of #Moldova in line w/ Istanbul commitments

    NOTE: a large number of the Russian tanks in eastern Ukraine were scheduled for destruction under the OSCE disarming plans BUT Russia kept asking for a delay due to first Chechnya and then it appears the OSCE went to sleep at the wheel and never declared Russia in non compliance AND where are those tanks today?

    NOTICE that they even violate the Transnistrian agreement with OSCE??

    SO Obama and Kerry--what is next as it seems that "soft power" ie diplomacy has actually now been proven to have failed badly at achieving anything when dealing with Putin other than making it appear the US is basically weak in it's leadership role and has a weak President driving the car wreck.

    If we really are honest--Putin is slowly achieving one of his top geo political goals--that of disconnecting the US totally from Europe--he is about 80% of the way there after Sochi.
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    VIDEO Azov returning fire to Russian RPG (or so) in the night at #Shyrokyne 2 days ago.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAqty2-p-So … pic.twitter.com/aYulosKQbM

    VIDEO Azov battle footage #Shyrokyne yesterday. #geolocated
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o33TQfzKv44 … pic.twitter.com/k2i3upetEq

    #OSCE reports decreased fighting at #Shyrokyne & increased tensions around #Donetsk airport http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/158136 … pic.twitter.com/MQPcN5CHK7

    VIDEO In February a Russian tank was hit by a Ukrainian mine near Debaltseve.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJv4Yd4UMKY … pic.twitter.com/5aB1RdWquO

    Do you want to know what's going on in #Chechnya? Watch "Chechnya, war without trace", the new film by Manon Loizeau
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCxejgKjL7Q

    NATO Worried By Russia Crimea Build-Up http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...d-up/27272341/ … via @defense_news

    U.S. Mission to OSCE ✔ @usosce
    #Russia repeatedly argues - wrongly - that #Ukraine has failed to engage in dialogue with its citizens in the east:
    http://1.usa.gov/1bSCgrp

    Russian separatists in Ukraine are 10 hours drive to Kiev 20 hrs drive to Warsaw 24 hrs to Berlin this war much closer than people realise

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    It looks like the circle is getting tighter around the Russian firing of a BUK to down MH17. Reference the shot down of MH17.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One witness claims they saw the launch of a missile from the same area previously identified as the launch site south of Snizhne

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    A number of wittnesses in the Volkskrant MH17 aritcle also say they risk being disappeared or executed if they talk about

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    In the Volkskrant MH17 piece they've found more witnesses to the launch, and witnesses who saw the Buk in Torez

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One man says he won't give his name because "they take you to a forest and then you disappear for good."http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/heeft-u-hier-een-buk-raket-gezien~a4024652/

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One witness of the missile that shot down MH17 "if someone had recorded, he would get a bullet through his head." http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/...zien~a4024652/

    Post summarising details of the new Volkskrant article on #MH17, some very interesting stuff in there
    https://www.facebook.com/bellingcat/...88738477981276

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    Adviser to Poroshenko: Artemivsk arms cache (largest in Europe) w/ 1900 armored vehicles/huge # of firearms was moved away from front lines.


    World War II mass grave of Ukranian nationalist insurgents discovered in West Ukraine. #WW2
    http://uatoday.tv/society/world-war-...ne-427500.html … pic.twitter.com/TTuW1slWGl

    This was an alleged NKVD execution site of captured Ukrainians--had been rumored in the area of years but never located until now.

    So Putin now wonders why there is a whip lash against the Russians after his actions in Crimea and eastern Ukraine and why the numbers of Ukrainians wanting to join NATO has massively risen in the last year.

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    Seems like Putin and his FM "did not hear whatever message Kerry was carrying"--does the White House honestly believe Putin will implement fully Minsk 2??

    Maybe the entire WH, the NSC and the DoS should sit down and read this article and ask themselves "does Putin even want a solution or is he determined to annex eastern Ukraine??

    Bill Browder @Billbrowder
    Very smart analysis of how Russia uses propaganda and lies to run circles around a western leaders http://www.cepolicy.org/publications...how-counter-it

    Leonid Ragozin @leonidragozin
    Russian volunteer Zhuchkovsky: Military buildup [in LDNR] radically intensified this spring, as if they really want to seize all of Ukraine

    Butusov: #Donbas will be a constant hotspot instead of frozen. He has a point. https://twitter.com/zn_ua/status/599502124343525376

    US Mission to NATO ✔ @USNATO
    Actions, not words. Russia and the separatists must live up to their Minsk commitments: http://goo.gl/w3C42q pic.twitter.com/KZ6nVV4dbb

    The US tells the Ukraine it must restrain itself and hold to the Minsk 2 agreement and that even means do not return fire or if then against a 152mm SPG you can fire a 82mm mortar—kind of like just sit there and take it –currently since Minsk 2 was signed over 120 KIAs and over 550 WIAs on the Ukrainian side—so does this seem like Putin and his mercenaries really want Minsk 2 to be implemented??

    #News
    1 Ukrainian soldier got killed and 3 wounded in fighting and Russian attacks yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Now that it is a few days after Sochi AND we now fully understand Russia and Putin will not implement Minsk 2--SO what is exactly the next move by Kerry and Obama other than allowing Russia to annex eastern Ukraine/

    Notice after all the heavy shellings and ground attacks that occurred since Sochi--all we have had out of DC is utter SILENCE --that is now no longer strange as it is a signal they have thrown the Ukraine under the bus in exchange for Iran and Syria--there cannot be any other explanation for their total silence.

    There can be no other explanation for Obama vetoing the defense funding for 300M USDs for the Ukraine. He and Kerry stating Russia "must" implement fully Minsk 2 is just a waste of words as Russia will not accept free elections in the occupied zones UNDER Ukrainian election laws--not after the massive cost in money and blood Putin has invested into eastern Ukraine.

    #BREAKINGNEWS
    The "People's Republic of #Luhansk" declares 2 km wide corridor along entire Ukrainian-Russian border #NoGoZone for @OSCE_SMM.


    Forget #Minsk2. Russia & its local puppet regimes have no interest in it.
    It was a stillbirth fr. the very beginning.
    http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/boeviki-lnr-zap...f-176229_.html

    Did Kerry #Russia visit signal start of West capitulation on #Ukraine? Are sanctions failing? Does #Putin always win? http://nyti.ms/1d4hab1

    Canada OSCE ✔ @Canada2OSCE
    We recall the need for #Russia to finalise its troop/ammo withdrawal from Transnistrian region of #Moldova in line w/ Istanbul commitments


    NOTE: a large number of the Russian tanks in eastern Ukraine were scheduled for destruction under the OSCE disarming plans BUT Russia kept asking for a delay due to first Chechnya and then it appears the OSCE went to sleep at the wheel and never declared Russia in non compliance AND where are those tanks today?

    NOTICE that they even violate the Transnistrian agreement with OSCE??

    SO Obama and Kerry--what is next as it seems that "soft power" ie diplomacy has actually now been proven to have failed badly at achieving anything when dealing with Putin other than making it appear the US is basically weak in it's leadership role and has a weak President driving the car wreck.

    If we really are honest--Putin is slowly achieving one of his top geo political goals--that of disconnecting the US totally from Europe--he is about 80% of the way there after Sochi.
    Do the Russian actions listed below indicate a clear intent by Russia and her mercenaries to fully implement Minsk 2--IMO --no.
    Shellings are getting heavier and heavier and going now through most of the day.

    ATO spox: Russian forces shelling Ukrainian positions as attrition/provocation before new offensive on #Mariupol http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari..._mariupol.html

    10:35 #Donetsk center @papandopoolo distant rumble

    10:37 #Avdeevka @rechnikato quiet

    11:02 #Horlivka Stroitel @ahab7822 distant volleys are clearly heard

    10:31 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca close #Grad hits, "we didn't hear for quite some time"

    10:41 8-9 explosions and lull

    13:06 #Donetsk @fhntv29 for 20 min volleys from [Durna] Balka are heard

    #Dokuchaevsk @whicard5 "Have someone seen militants today?I didn't see any walking all day thru. They say, many a one set off for #Olenivka"

    #Donetsk
    12:39 @BylByleva_ Rumble
    12:55 @CatBoobon Dull volleys are audible

    11:02 #Horlivka Stroitel @ahab7822 distant volleys are clearly heard

    Does anyone of you have footage/pictures of the aftermath of severe Russian shelling on #Stanytsia_Luhanska last night?Playground was hit.

    AND what the US foreign policy again for the Ukraine???

    All words and no actions.

    The Ukraine is facing over 700 tanks and hundreds of artillery and MRLSs and we send MREs and blankets and trainers as replacements for anti tank weapons SO we do not agitate Putin into escalating which he has already done four times. WHEN we send nothing.

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    Ukrainian unity festival held 800 meters away from Russian proxy forces near Luhansk http://24today.net/open/411115 pic.twitter.com/KVOmfAIUcL

    #Analysis #Map
    This is the closest Ukrainian army position to #Donetsk #airport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYRiZSsr8G8
    pic.twitter.com/16uLFvXavF

    Yet when you hear the Russian FM and his mercenaries THERE is a major attack by the Ukrainians being planned and or the Ukrainians are constantly attacking the airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    It looks like the circle is getting tighter around the Russian firing of a BUK to down MH17. Reference the shot down of MH17.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One witness claims they saw the launch of a missile from the same area previously identified as the launch site south of Snizhne

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    A number of wittnesses in the Volkskrant MH17 aritcle also say they risk being disappeared or executed if they talk about

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    In the Volkskrant MH17 piece they've found more witnesses to the launch, and witnesses who saw the Buk in Torez

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One man says he won't give his name because "they take you to a forest and then you disappear for good."http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/heeft-u-hier-een-buk-raket-gezien~a4024652/

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    One witness of the missile that shot down MH17 "if someone had recorded, he would get a bullet through his head." http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/...zien~a4024652/

    Post summarising details of the new Volkskrant article on #MH17, some very interesting stuff in there
    https://www.facebook.com/bellingcat/...88738477981276
    Russian Foreign Ministry is whining about the "fakes stories being spread by social media concerning the Russian involvement in the shot down of MH17".

    Sometimes the truth hurts but that is something the Russian FM knows nothing about until now with MH17 and their BUK missile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Do the Russian actions listed below indicate a clear intent by Russia and her mercenaries to fully implement Minsk 2--IMO --no.
    Shellings are getting heavier and heavier and going now through most of the day.

    ATO spox: Russian forces shelling Ukrainian positions as attrition/provocation before new offensive on #Mariupol http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari..._mariupol.html

    10:35 #Donetsk center @papandopoolo distant rumble

    10:37 #Avdeevka @rechnikato quiet

    11:02 #Horlivka Stroitel @ahab7822 distant volleys are clearly heard

    10:31 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca close #Grad hits, "we didn't hear for quite some time"

    10:41 8-9 explosions and lull

    13:06 #Donetsk @fhntv29 for 20 min volleys from [Durna] Balka are heard

    #Dokuchaevsk @whicard5 "Have someone seen militants today?I didn't see any walking all day thru. They say, many a one set off for #Olenivka"

    #Donetsk
    12:39 @BylByleva_ Rumble
    12:55 @CatBoobon Dull volleys are audible

    11:02 #Horlivka Stroitel @ahab7822 distant volleys are clearly heard

    Does anyone of you have footage/pictures of the aftermath of severe Russian shelling on #Stanytsia_Luhanska last night?Playground was hit.

    AND what the US foreign policy again for the Ukraine???

    All words and no actions.

    The Ukraine is facing over 700 tanks and hundreds of artillery and MRLSs and we send MREs and blankets and trainers as replacements for anti tank weapons SO we do not agitate Putin into escalating which he has already done four times. WHEN we send nothing.
    Shellings are now spreading to the entire eastern front contact line.

    14:06 #Debaltseve @Debaltsevo_UA "Traditional rumble in the west/northwest

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    Both Russian tactical and strategic intelligence operations are part and parcel of their UW doctrine non linear warfare.

    Please read this brilliant analysis of why the west is losing the spy war against Russia http://20committee.com/2015/05/15/ca...lay-this-game/ ….

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    Somehow the White House, the NSC and the DoS seem to be getting nowhere with their concept of "soft power" ie diplomacy.

    After meeting in Sochi increased massive shelling and ground attacks AFTER Putin and his FM state they support full implementation of Minsk 2.

    Now our supposedly negotiation partners called Iran state this today.

    Khamenei says US is "main sponsor and designer of terrorism" in the world. http://www.irna.ir/en/News/81610085/
    So we seem to be the Great Satan again after years of talking with them.

    We seem to have a really thoroughly well thought out set of foreign policies. OR we are just inherently bad at picking our negotiation partners.

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    The #DNR will issue a combined credit and identity card instead of passport. http://donbass.hromadskeradio.org/20...vyimi-kartami/ … pic.twitter.com/xS5aL0V87M

    More stolen items by Russia from eastern Ukraine—first factories, then coal, then scrap steel and now literature?????

    #Russia has stolen archives of science fiction writers Arkady and Boris #Strugatsky brothers from #Donetsk http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1408997/

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