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    VIDEO Russia (test) fires a BUK missile. Probably during one of their many exercises.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIAGADTheF4 … #MH17 pic.twitter.com/gRcsBcoKeG

    During the last day #Ukraine lost 4 soldiers and 16 were injured. https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/600732188078940160

    4 Ukrainian troops killed, 2 injured as fighting flares in Katerynivka & Stakhanovets villages in Luhansk region, @interfaxua citing Moskal.

    The ATO pressers lately doesn't give the numbers of "ceasefire violations" anymore, just report the incidents. There are just too many.

    #Katerinovka As of 21:00 battle ended, attack repelled. There are only single/isolated shots now. Wounded evacuated. https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/600731186051358720
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    So in fact the two captured Spetsnaz are not "former service members" but actual active Russian Army personnel.

    Meanwhile, RU Major-General Igor Konashenkov refers to "abuse of wounded comrades by SBU"
    http://uatoday.tv/news/russian-defen...rs-428073.html

    NOTE--this Russian General has a Russian SF history.

    Reference Russian claims of "abuse".

    Prisoners of Russian SoF not tortured and provided with satisfactory health care - Amnesty International http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-may-...d-and-provided
    Detained Rus servicemen in hospital told @novaya_gazeta they were rendered quality med aid, are treated well @24tvua

    Novaya Gazeta Visits Two Russian POWs, Obtains Confirmation One was Contract Soldier; Publishes Further Research http://bit.ly/1AduXpW
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    Great new Russian military in the Ukraine open source documentation coming from bellingcat.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    9 days until the May 28th release of Hiding in Plain Sight - Putin's War in Ukraine #PutinAtWar
    pic.twitter.com/ukru8cdtNH

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Now we see the "truth"--seems Russia is in panic mode after the two released interview videos from today--WHY else would the Russian FM want to met with "two so called former Service members"??????

    Do not think they would have madfwe the same request to visit if a "miner and truck driver" had been captured.

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Russian embassy demands meeting with Russians captured by Ukrainian army in Luhansk Region
    http://tass.ru/en/russia/795627

    This Russian press release is an utter attempt at rather bad disinformation--reflects a panic mode.

    JUST a side note--how is it possible that the two captured Spetsnaz had such a deep fear if captured their organs would have been harvested by the Ukrainians--they stated they had been told that by their Commanders-in the video today from the captured CPT he stated he was willing and attempted to use a grenade to kill himself to avoid this.

    NOW the kicker--there have been some social media reports that this has been ongoing with Ukrainian POWs. In RUMINT there is somewhere a grain of truth.
    Turnaround is fair play in the world of propaganda it seems---

    Kyiv demands access to 2 Ukrainians detained by Russia - Foreign Ministry [/B]http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ry-388982.html …?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian embassy in Damascus comes under mortar fire http://tass.ru/en/world/795652

    Russia the country that provides Assad with every weapon possible is bitching about the targeting of its Embassy in Damascus...

    What goes around always comes around is an old Arabic saying---I remember that the KSA at an Arab League meeting recently condemned Russia arms shipments to Assad.

    Do not think for a moment that Russian acitvities in the Ukraine and in Syria are not connected. Seems DC and the NSC has forgotten this small point.
    Russian embassy in Damascus is on fire.

    Seems it was Assad forces trying to hit IS--kind of like Russian mortar munitions coming home.

    Russian embassy in Damascus hit by mortar during strike against IS. http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetail...48&language=en
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian propaganda has 4 Ds: dismiss, distort, distract, dismay.

    Always keep this in mind when reading Russian offical comments, press releases and or blog comments.
    The Kremlin's #4D propaganda approach: dismiss, distort, distract, dismay. My policy paper http://goo.gl/mnUCOi via @GLOBSEC

    Significant upsurge in false blame put on Ukraine for Russian shelling in Donetsk sector: orchestrated reporting by main Russian TV Networks

    #Russia Launches ‘Predictive System’ for Monitoring Protest Activity Online http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/0...tivity-online/ … pic.twitter.com/f6JovuCxJM
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    Putin’s Disunited Nation.

    The ethnic, regional & religious fragmentation of Russia is seen as a growing threat.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/20/op...tion.html?_r=0

    Russian forces position somewhere in Donbas: "Vikings" Battalion mercenaries (added 18 May) https://vk.com/albums-93369497 pic.twitter.com/fCrPo5vy8r

    #Horlivka - the village #Batmanovka was a buffer zone without troops. Tonight about 50 ruscists occupied it. https://twitter.com/Utilizator_/stat...24759169638401

    6 Ukrainian soldiers killed fighting nr Papasna, Luhansk region. Frontline quite fuzzy + fluid all around this area http://www.ukrinform.ua/rus/news/pod...___smi_1746096


    Some much needed humor tonight---

    If you report "rebels" without quotation marks, should you be described as a "journalist"?
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    #Footage
    Ukr tanks on the move, some km West of #Shyrokyne.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-mUpCv9XE
    Preparations for what'll come. pic.twitter.com/FDENgZG9ik

    "Гуманитарная помощь" - humanitarian aid has arrived today in Millerovo near #Ukraine border. https://archive.is/TGorY pic.twitter.com/eq4Nle0GdE

    Again flares and fighting in northern #Donetsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-may-...hern-donetsk-- … pic.twitter.com/RXImtg42fI

    Another payday for a RU mercenary in #Donetsk https://archive.is/khq0A + parade apc & GRU flag at 48.007051, 37.795269 pic.twitter.com/gZ3havicGC

    Here's our new platform to track Russian military in Ukraine→Submit your findings #PutinAtWar https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2015...cking-project/ … pic.twitter.com/WSnTUIWzjR

    Yep, but it's too much outgoing shelling from #Donetsk for RT to switch back on the livecam

    Full size Lunev with Givi at DAP 15 Jan - Supports theory that Lunev was more than a reporter. GRU? SVR? pic.twitter.com/ErREaqKXpT

    Other photos of Lunev for comparison pic.twitter.com/QlfmVhBRfz

    VIDEO #Ukraine T-64 BM "Bulat" tanks being transported east by rail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_v0Z3wfO1E … #Donetsk #Luhansk #Putin pic.twitter.com/5nEOmEYjKm

    Russian aid: Militant with radar. pic.twitter.com/qtjgaaDddD

    #Footage
    Russian"LPR" forces in #Luhansk prepare for war.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcA8E4cHZAI
    pic.twitter.com/ScJLJyop7X
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The Kremlin's #4D propaganda approach: dismiss, distort, distract, dismay. My policy paper http://goo.gl/mnUCOi via @GLOBSEC

    Significant upsurge in false blame put on Ukraine for Russian shelling in Donetsk sector: orchestrated reporting by main Russian TV Networks

    #Russia Launches ‘Predictive System’ for Monitoring Protest Activity Online http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/0...tivity-online/ … pic.twitter.com/f6JovuCxJM
    Which of the 4Ds is this an example of?????

    Witnesses in #Donetsk yesterday all described outgoing shelling from centre (Russian-held).
    RU media: Wasn't us!
    pic.twitter.com/j20rvVzml7

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Turnaround is fair play in the world of propaganda it seems---

    Kyiv demands access to 2 Ukrainians detained by Russia - Foreign Ministry [/B]http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ry-388982.html …?
    BREAKING: Putin may get involved in the release of detained Russian commandos - State Duma http://en.censor.net.ua/n336783

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    After these two comments does any SWJ reader actually assume for more than 1 minute that Putin is really interested in a full implementation of Minsk 2???

    What is really striking is the total lack of US leadership responses to both the heavily increasing shellings and ground attacks, the now totally convincing evidence of Russian active duty SF in the actual fighting and the still heavy weapons, munitions, fuel and other modern military supplies coming into the Ukraine----WHY is there total silence both from the White House, the DoS, the NSC AND more importantly absolutely nothing coming from mainstream US media.


    Savel'ev Anton, Mamausupov Timur, and Kardapolov Ivan - Russian SOF killed in Ukraine on May 5 via @RuslanLeviev pic.twitter.com/aaCo41h8Ef

    Tymchuk: In the last 24h Russian forces dramatically increased attacks on Ukrainian positions. Large Russian arms shipments are pouring in.
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    #ATO press center reports #Russia-backed militants fired at #Pisky, #Donetsk airport area using incendiary munitions https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...01515726525900

    10:10 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA The second day in a row RUS fuel trucks drive ever and again from Russia to #Donetsk

    10:42 #Donetsk @Serzzze 3 BMP via Kalinovka eastwards

    Report on new graves of Russ special forces soldiers who “died in Ukraine” via @RuslanLeviev
    https://www.facebook.com/ruslanlevie...55598429565424 … pic.twitter.com/aw6Eqtl30Q

    Ukraine captured over 80 Russian soldiers on its territory in recent months, @poroshenko in intv w/ @fergalkeane47 pic.twitter.com/4FGeN1N5VF

    #Russia's proxies attacked Ukr forces in #Shyrokyne this am. Fighting lasted for over 3hrs. 3 Ukr servicemen are WIA http://www.0629.com.ua/news/831825

    #Donetsk @DoneckiiPatriot pic.twitter.com/BHtcTVOd0r

    #Russia-backed militants resumed shelling of residential areas and towns: Shchastia, Hranitne, Katerynivka, Popasna https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...01515726525900

    General Staff: Three Ukrainian soldiers killed, six wounded in fighting near Katerynivka
    http://www.unian.info/politics/10798...terynivka.html … pic.twitter.com/QsW7V3ZnLw

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    @Guderian_Xaba The attacks at #Shyrokyno continued after midnight. 3 troopers WIA. http://www.5.ua/ato-na-shodi/Unaslid...r-M-80937.html

    #Luhansk reg @LuganskNews RUS [fired/shelled] w/AA-guns&GLs #Schastya, #Tryokhizbenka, #Krymske http://goo.gl/k2iyCd

    #Horlivka @LeeZernoganja "yday evening/night RUS moved fr/Horlivka to Dzerzhynsk direction several tanks, BTRs & SPGs

    09:45 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 1 Ural & 1 Kamaz trucks w/troops & D-30 cannons tow/#Torez. Trucks look new.

    Savel'ev Anton, Mamausupov Timur, and Kardapolov Ivan - Russian SOF killed in Ukraine on May 5 via @RuslanLeviev pic.twitter.com/aaCo41h8Ef

    Eng translation of @RuslanLeviev + @Pjatak post about discovery of new graves of Russ soldiers “killed in Ukraine”: https://medium.com/@ReggaeMortis1/ru...e-59e2416b19b9

    Tymchuk: In the last 24h Russian forces dramatically increased attacks on Ukrainian positions. Large Russian arms shipments are pouring in.

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    08:12 #Donetsk Prozhektorna @DoneckiiPatriot There was a massive gunshot, maybe SPG

    Russian-backed illegal armed formations shell communities and Ukrainian army positions http://www.mil.gov.ua/en/news/2015/0...rmy-positions/

    More Russian disinformation at work.
    Russian TV reports spoof Ukrainian news as real
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/monitoring/russ...-as-real-thing … pic.twitter.com/4BUCgqYS3l

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    Tymchuk: Russia is overtly deploying SAM missile systems in Ukraine that only it has such as the newly arrived Tor-M1 pic.twitter.com/Lg0SPxSohm

    #OSCE reports more trucks from #Belarus in #Donbas: Transporting #Ukraine's coal to #Russia? http://belsat.eu/en/articles/osce-re...g-coal-russia/ … pic.twitter.com/o8D8QsUedf

    Geolocating the "Buk" which shot down #MH17 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxvEWZgCM8

    Prez @poroshenko to @BBC: several weeks and months ago we captured 20, then 60 #Russian spetsnaz servicemen http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/interna..._bbc_interview

    Don't remember such "interesting" discussions when Russians and Cossacs in Krasny Partizan executed UKR soldiers ...

    For the second day in a row Russian fuel trucks drive from #Russia to #Donetsk through #Shakhtarsk all day via @loogunda

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    Again more “fake” Russian news media stories:.@SputnikInt wrong again. US not prepared to start up financial dialogue with Russia until Minsk fully implemented. pic.twitter.com/cMg68wdB2F

    Well slowly the Russian mercenaries ie the Russian MoD are getting to their moment of “Russian truth”—first they were “former members of the Russian military “voluntold””—today they are now at least “ reservists”—well at least that is an improvement—SO “reservists called up for “active duty”—yes or no would be the next Russian MoD step they will be making in the next day or so.

    Oliver Carroll @olliecarroll
    Plotnitsky claims two Russians came to Lnr as volunteers. "They were reservists"

    Plotnitsky presser in Luhansk. All questions agreed beforehand pic.twitter.com/Nw31dfQp95 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/20-may-...estions-agreed … via @olliecarroll

    Oliver Carroll @olliecarroll
    Lugansk regional journalist (mercenary reporter): "Thank u 4 allowing journalists to ask questions". Plotnitsky: "no problem. I value work of 4th estate". Indeed

    Another bit of Russian mercenary blatant propaganda—
    Oliver Carroll @olliecarroll
    Plotnitsky reiterates claim to northern part of Luhansk region which, he claims, voted for rebels in referendum. "We are trying peacefully"

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    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, May 20, 12:00 EET pic.twitter.com/r7ZJIVDJ9k

    #BreakingNews
    Total number of Ukrainian casualties in yday #Katerinovka battle & mine attack rises to 14.
    5 KIA
    9 WIA


    This morning a 3 hour battle took place in Shyrokyne (03:15-06:20) RU forces fired with 152mm artillery & AGS - AZOVhttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...68&__tn__=%2As

    Militants fire on Hranitne, Katerynivka and Popasna
    http://www.unian.info/war/1079938-mi...d-popasna.html … pic.twitter.com/A88Ejoh8hz

    OSCE: The OTs continued to observe dumper trucks transporting coal from the Luhansk region to the Russian Federation through the BCP #Gukovo

    NOTE: a large increase in Belarus plated trucks are being now seen vs five months ago so far more coal is being "stolen" than previously assumed.

    #OSCE confirms rise of fuel transports at #Russia - #Ukraine border
    checkpoints:
    http://www.osce.org/om/158861

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Tymchuk: Russia is overtly deploying SAM missile systems in Ukraine that only it has such as the newly arrived Tor-M1 pic.twitter.com/Lg0SPxSohm

    #OSCE reports more trucks from #Belarus in #Donbas: Transporting #Ukraine's coal to #Russia? http://belsat.eu/en/articles/osce-re...g-coal-russia/ … pic.twitter.com/o8D8QsUedf

    Geolocating the "Buk" which shot down #MH17 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxvEWZgCM8

    Prez @poroshenko to @BBC: several weeks and months ago we captured 20, then 60 #Russian spetsnaz servicemen http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/interna..._bbc_interview

    Don't remember such "interesting" discussions when Russians and Cossacs in Krasny Partizan executed UKR soldiers ...

    For the second day in a row Russian fuel trucks drive from #Russia to #Donetsk through #Shakhtarsk all day via @loogunda
    NOTE: the TOR MI AD system is only deployed in the active Russian Army and requires a very well trained regular army team NOT "miners and truck drivers" who would need over a year to master.

    Remember as well the Russian MoD and the Russian FM both recently stated (after accusing the US of lying) there are absolutely no Russian AD systems in the Ukraine--WELL they now are and they are highly modern.

    4 units of TOR-M1 air defense missile systems and radar reconnaissance deployed in the area between Jenakijewe and #Horlivka

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    Putin's Peskov "Missile defense in Ukraine is a direct threat for the Russian rockets" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/20-may-...ne-is-a-direct

    Turchynov: we will discuss Missile defense deployment to counter Ru missiles

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    SBU blocked schemes that funded “DPR” and “LPR”. Pro-Kremlin biker Aleksandr Zaldostanov [Khirurg] is implicated. pic.twitter.com/pFqr1WoEiM

    Great #Hromadske video on #Crimea Tatar family starting new life in w. #Ukraine's Carpathians https://youtu.be/Cpci-5gh0S0?t=40s … pic.twitter.com/cKJ5w5zInm

    Russian humanitarian aid is exactly what again?????
    The truth about the humanitarian aid from #Russia to the #DNR.
    pic.twitter.com/cqQWcRr4Ht

    Vodka and 120mm mortar shells in the same shipping crate---maybe by pouring the vodka into the mortar tube prior to firing one gets maybe another kilometer in range distance and an improved accuracy rate--who knows????

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian servicemen spotted 9 flights of enemy UAVs, 3 more UAVs on the admin border between Kherson region and Crimea

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Russia-backed fighters fired at the Ukrainian positions 4 times in Shyrokyne

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Tryokhizbenka, Shchastya & areas around the Bakhmutaka road were sites of conflict in Luhansk sector.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Militants used arms banned by Minsk II: 22 times – 120mm mortars, 3 times –122mm artillery, 4 – tanks

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    27 in the Donetsk sector. Hotspots: Pisky, Opytne, Avdiivka, Putylivska mine & Horlivka, Hranitne, Starohnativka

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    OLD VIDEO #Ukraine treated #Putin soldiers w decency but this is how #Russia treats prisoners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7bwlYuErdY … pic.twitter.com/nNk1g9J1yh

    I don't recall my troll army going nuts over the "rebels" parading Ukraine POWs in front of a baying mob. pic.twitter.com/H9AvW0OvQw

    @edwardlucas --Ukrainians are angry there was no Western outcry when Ukrainian POWs were killed/abused/paraded in streets by "rebels". Or when a Russian mercenary admits on camea he executed 14 Ukrainian POWS and would do more of it.

    AND the West goes crazy over whether two captured Russian Spetsnaz are POWs, mercenaries or terrorists when videos are provided of their statements, excellent medical care was provided, messages sent to their families and the IRCI and OSCE visited them.

    There are still over 400 Ukrainian POWS being held that were not released as stated they should be under Minsk 2—the mercenaries refused to continue the exchange—the Ukraine released all they held as it was to be an all for all process.

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