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    One of the best social media open source analysis of the Russian troll campaign directed against the West in the ongoing Russian informational warfare.

    #Social #Network Analysis Reveals Scale of #Kremlin's #Twitter #Bot Campaign.by @LawrenceA_UK|https://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/...-twitter-bots/ … pic.twitter.com/u2t2kthfL7

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    Footage
    #Donetsk this evening. Shelling, smoke and explosions in the - of course: #Western - distance
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeeIAVHQe-g

    #Donetsk resident abt fighting in city right now:"One of the most furious battles in the northwest I heard since winter assault" - @loogunda

    Artillery hits a house in Donetsk. LifeNews journos are the first to visit the accident. Coincidence? https://twitter.com/Frm_dn_ua/status/605450744075055104

    On eve of 2 June Minsk contact group/subgroup talks, this happens: Russian self-shelling to pin blame on Ukraine... https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/605453911856521216

    #Donetsk. Tank battle in #Spartak-#Opytne area, intense shelling in #Pisky direction, outgoing vollyes can be heard in the centre of city.

    Heavy continuous artillery shelling on #Pisky and #Avdeevka the entire evening. Heavy outgoing coming from #Donetsk

    Shelling in #Donetsk , #Horlivka, #Avdiivka, #Pisky, #Opytne, #Makiivka, #Shyrokyne and #Novhorodske tonight. pic.twitter.com/FQE3fnOhrw

    21:14 #Novhorodske @LeeZernoganja Intense battle at #Hlyboka-#Stakhanivska line for a long time

    #Horlivka 10:01PM
    Hluboka - LOUD https://twitter.com/xy_gorlov4an/sta...49065090977793

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    #Putin trolls trying to hide proof of #Russia troops in #Ukraine. Video of new convoy deleted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHdc1U9RKg … pic.twitter.com/goV8wPmotk

    So YouTube plays the Russian troll game--when does a Russian military convoy fulfill the following from YouTube????

    This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content.

    Guess Russian troops who are in the military and yet on vacation in the Ukraine could in fact be called a scram or commercially deceptive???

    No registration plates, BTR-60 junk, Msta-B
    The #RussianArmy goes on vacation in #Ukraine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Wi_hSEKtM … pic.twitter.com/dzlMKA1C4a

    Watch this video get deleted as well.
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    Default Regan's USN in Black Sea 1988

    Freedom of Navigation in action!

    In February 1988, USS Yorktown, entered the Soviet Union's 12 mile (22.2 km) territorial waters limit in the Black Sea off the Crimean Peninsula without permission. Under established international law, this act was permissible if the transiting foreign ship is progressing from one point in international waters to another point in international waters via the shortest course possible. The Soviet Union had however claimed the right to authorize or prohibit travel in selected areas within the 12 mile limit. The United States did not recognize the Soviet claim. To prevent it from becoming accepted precedent, the US Navy had sailed warships through such areas at regular intervals in the past.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0w9WJRiSFM

    Interesting proportion size USN and Soviet ships.

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    VIDEO by ALJAZEERA #Russia Military Vehicles spotted near #Ukraine border https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzFgiIv3r4 … pic.twitter.com/xGmaynJ89A

    #Footage
    Russian army T-72B1 has some problems in occupied #Donbas.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKsWMJCuR4g

    #Donetk 3:57AM
    Mines falling on #Spartak, or further. https://twitter.com/idinmor/status/605538726576570369

    UN Officials Interview Russian Soldiers Invading Ukraine http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...50601?irpc=932 … pic.twitter.com/pK4b8el3kF

    #Russia/s Neo-#Nazi Network > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3hCXPB5ffs … reason why Russian #propaganda claims "nazi threat" from west?

    #Ukraine's ongoing revolution sees the rise of civil society, institutions http://tmt-go.ru/522826 via @MoscowTimes pic.twitter.com/SM36dCjFbf

    VIDEO: Russian soldier fights on Ukraine's side.
    "What the Russian media says should not be taken seriously. It... http://fb.me/1I05yksn1

    #Russia's MoD spares no expense in protecting #Putin's media stooges in #Ukraine— they get armed escort 2gather intel pic.twitter.com/2w4j1PmOYE

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    Social media open source analyst @finriswolf has been pulling together all of the new Russian munition dumps and heavy weapons parks that have sprung up in eastern Ukraine over the last two months or so--where previously the parks were empty.

    And he has only reviewed 1/3 of the available sat imagery.


    Well so much for Russian "non support to her mercenaries and there is no coming general offensive"!!

    #Ukraine There are probably 30-40 sites in #Luhansk with kilometer after kilometer of ammo boxes in the open air pic.twitter.com/QIfsQiqRhH

    #Ukraine More "rebel" "captured" equipment jam packed all over #Luhansk http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/KTzRIdsgff

    #Ukraine "rebels" with more 'found' armored vehicles in #Luhansk http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...5&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/81YcIcN5oB

    Ukraine "rebels" with so much ammo/kit they have to pack it in all over #Luhansk airbase http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/aSsZwZsDdK

    #Ukraine : "Rebel" base in #Luhansk was empty short time ago now jam packed with kit and ammo http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/nujqkaizjh

    #Ukraine : Unpublished #Luhansk "rebel" base packed with ammo boxes & vehicles that were not there a few months ago pic.twitter.com/mnBlvwD9vt

    #Ukraine #Luhansk "Rebels" must have 'captured' 3 complete armored battalions over last couple weeks. Let's take a look at 1 of them

    PT #Ukraine I have only scanned 1/3 of #Luhansk and there are 20+ large ammo dumps and12+ vehicle-parks (15 or more vehicles in each)
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    VIDEO For Russias Hybrid Soldiers killing Ukrainians and ruining civilian lives is a joke.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6Icl5SzCA … pic.twitter.com/Af9b38Tmc9

    VIDEO Russias 'hybrid' soldiers in Ukraine signing mortar shells they unleash on #Shyrokyne
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyOHLRR3-yA

    Combat Selfie Video of Russias Hybrid soldiers of so-called DPR
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_JZ1TpYX88 … pic.twitter.com/g6dkIarAmA

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    Reference the two Russian Spetsnaz that were recently captured by Ukrainian forces--

    Full video from phone of captured GRU officers Yerofeyev and Alexandrovhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CCN4ROKRk
    pic.twitter.com/G7VM9FmU0Y
    via @Ukropo4kA

    youtube.com/watch?v=waCexNP9XRk … 'I embraced #Ukrainian land as my native,' #Russian commando tells his unit in video BEFORE capture.

    Definitely your so called typical Russian "vacationers". No wonder Russian abandoned them.

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    Russian propaganda 4Ds---dismiss, distract, distort, dismay designed to create 2Ds—distrust and doubt.

    So which one of the 4Ds is the Russian BUK manufacturer attempting to use???

    Reference Russian BUK shot down of MH17—now Russia is having the BUK manufacturer explaining WHY it could not have been a “Russian BUK”—kind of like having the NSA explain “we do not sweep the entire internet”.

    Not a single Russian official and or BUK have exactly explained WHO that BUK seen being transported back to Russia belonged to—to this day they have not been able to explain it. Other than it was the “Ukrainians”.

    After the recent social media indicating the fake satellite photos done by the Russian MoD Russia is getting highly concerned about the final Dutch investigation report due out in October 2015 and are trying to be preemptive.

    Buk manufacturer to explain why accusations of MH17 shoot-down unfair. Ever heard the expression, when you're in a hole, stop digging?

    MH17 analysis by BUK missile maker showing BUK could not possibly have been responsible: media conference now pic.twitter.com/mfyK8wJGj6

    Almaty-Antey Director Novikov: We will prove absolute non-involvement in #MH17 with "new evidence." And so it begins. pic.twitter.com/4B4XVxMEYL

    'We used our experience including 2001 Ukraine shootdown of Russian airliner to analyze MH17 cirumstances': BUK missile maker

    Lots of charts and graphs. pic.twitter.com/HMiSuYXlpE

    Almaz-Antey showing what it claims to be evidence that Ukrainian Buk M1 downed #MH17. pic.twitter.com/pKLX9kDJud

    They show plane again. Plane! pic.twitter.com/RrzhZChwv5

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    I'm expecting some pretty amazing doublethink coming from the SU-25 truthers #MH17

    Yep, the SU-25 era is officially over. Let the ukrainian BUK time begin

    Report by "Russian military engineers" mysteriously leaked last month blamed MH17 on a Ukrainian Buk M1. http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Looks like the SU-25 truthers will finally have to admit they were wrong all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference the shot down of MH17----

    Russian propaganda 4Ds dismiss, distract, distort, dismay --designed to create 2Ds ---distrust, doubt and this article is again which one?

    Russia's propaganda apparatus uses a discredited blogger from Russia's MoD to repeat alleged libel. Disturbing. https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/sta...15659384762369


    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150601/1022820260.html

    MH17 – Forensic Analysis of Satellite Images Bellingcat
    Exposed: Russian Blogger Cuts British Online Investigators Down to Size


    Europe
    18:55 01.06.2015(updated 19:20 01.06.2015)



    NOTICE--bellingcat and Atlantic Council made a clear decision to release the analysis of the fake Russian MoD satellite photos in Russian.

    At first the Russian propaganda machine did not respond to their analysis but when the Russian report made it back into Russia --THEN Russian counter propaganda kicked in.


    Google Earth trick proves Russia lied about the passenger plane shot down in eastern Ukraine http://buff.ly/1KygdSG pic.twitter.com/iPlyoGx5aO

    MANTRA from Russian trolls--the work was not checked by any experts---response--Jane's checked every piece of analysis that was conducted.

    Reference the bellingcat/Atlantic Council report on the ”fake” MoD sat MH17 photos and the massive propaganda article from Sputnik against the bellingcat article THEN this today:

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Russia Today just emailed me to ask if I'd be on their #MH17 documentary. I suspect it would be rather like this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVQuZf1FewU

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian propaganda 4Ds---dismiss, distract, distort, dismay designed to create 2Ds—distrust and doubt.

    So which one of the 4Ds is the Russian BUK manufacturer attempting to use???

    Reference Russian BUK shot down of MH17—now Russia is having the BUK manufacturer explaining WHY it could not have been a “Russian BUK”—kind of like having the NSA explain “we do not sweep the entire internet”.

    Not a single Russian official and or BUK have exactly explained WHO that BUK seen being transported back to Russia belonged to—to this day they have not been able to explain it. Other than it was the “Ukrainians”.

    After the recent social media indicating the fake satellite photos done by the Russian MoD Russia is getting highly concerned about the final Dutch investigation report due out in October 2015 and are trying to be preemptive.

    Buk manufacturer to explain why accusations of MH17 shoot-down unfair. Ever heard the expression, when you're in a hole, stop digging?

    MH17 analysis by BUK missile maker showing BUK could not possibly have been responsible: media conference now pic.twitter.com/mfyK8wJGj6

    Almaty-Antey Director Novikov: We will prove absolute non-involvement in #MH17 with "new evidence." And so it begins. pic.twitter.com/4B4XVxMEYL

    'We used our experience including 2001 Ukraine shootdown of Russian airliner to analyze MH17 cirumstances': BUK missile maker

    Lots of charts and graphs. pic.twitter.com/HMiSuYXlpE

    Almaz-Antey showing what it claims to be evidence that Ukrainian Buk M1 downed #MH17. pic.twitter.com/pKLX9kDJud

    They show plane again. Plane! pic.twitter.com/RrzhZChwv5

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    I'm expecting some pretty amazing doublethink coming from the SU-25 truthers #MH17

    Yep, the SU-25 era is officially over. Let the ukrainian BUK time begin

    Report by "Russian military engineers" mysteriously leaked last month blamed MH17 on a Ukrainian Buk M1. http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Looks like the SU-25 truthers will finally have to admit they were wrong all along.
    Lots of graphs and graphics going on here. Basic claim so far seems to be that it was from a Ukrainian BUK M-1 pic.twitter.com/pVoFbBsur5

    Desperate Russians throwing in yet another pathetic attempt to cover up their killings of #MH17. https://twitter.com/danielb_rt/statu...68075992719361

    This is where they claim the BUK was fired from pic.twitter.com/CxsbkMzAqz

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    And this is yet more proof that the Russian Ministry of Defences July 21st press conference was a pack of lies and fabrications #MH17

    wasn't there, I really wasn't there, I so wasn't there. Okay, I was there, but I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Oh. #buk

    This appeared on my timeline just as I'm watching reconstruction of MH17 (also 777) shot down with BUK at press conf https://twitter.com/AeroflotManUtd/s...51194555756545

    watch from this point on. It is utterly revolting that Russian state tv broadcasts this bilge https://youtu.be/bwKGHMbwVaQ?t=1009

    1. Almaz Antey: we have HUGE BREAKING news, so we will convene presser
    2. Almaz Antey: MH17 was shotdown with Buk missile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Social media open source analyst @finriswolf has been pulling together all of the new Russian munition dumps and heavy weapons parks that have sprung up in eastern Ukraine over the last two months or so--where previously the parks were empty.

    And he has only reviewed 1/3 of the available sat imagery.


    Well so much for Russian "non support to her mercenaries and there is no coming general offensive"!!

    #Ukraine There are probably 30-40 sites in #Luhansk with kilometer after kilometer of ammo boxes in the open air pic.twitter.com/QIfsQiqRhH

    #Ukraine More "rebel" "captured" equipment jam packed all over #Luhansk http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/KTzRIdsgff

    #Ukraine "rebels" with more 'found' armored vehicles in #Luhansk http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...5&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/81YcIcN5oB

    Ukraine "rebels" with so much ammo/kit they have to pack it in all over #Luhansk airbase http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/aSsZwZsDdK

    #Ukraine : "Rebel" base in #Luhansk was empty short time ago now jam packed with kit and ammo http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...1&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/nujqkaizjh

    #Ukraine : Unpublished #Luhansk "rebel" base packed with ammo boxes & vehicles that were not there a few months ago pic.twitter.com/mnBlvwD9vt

    #Ukraine #Luhansk "Rebels" must have 'captured' 3 complete armored battalions over last couple weeks. Let's take a look at 1 of them

    PT #Ukraine I have only scanned 1/3 of #Luhansk and there are 20+ large ammo dumps and12+ vehicle-parks (15 or more vehicles in each)

    #Ukraine There could be 200+ "captured" tanks just 'parked' inside #Luhansk alone. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...8&z=18&m=b&v=1 … pic.twitter.com/imhx4VXgTP

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    After this Almaz Antey "explanation", this is time to watch again ministry of defence "explanation" from last summer about Su-25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCaEmvhr6w

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaur View Post
    After this Almaz Antey "explanation", this is time to watch again ministry of defence "explanation" from last summer about Su-25.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCaEmvhr6w
    kaur--at some point one has to feel actually sorry for any official Russian agency or in this case the actual BUK manufacturer--once they began the lying to cover up their shot down of MH17 things went from bad to worse with every "new story".

    In the middle of the BUK presentation from the manufacturer the social media open source analysts were "shredding into really really small pieces" the myths being stated by even the BUK manufacturer.

    It took all of 20 minutes to debunk this new "story" --seems that even the BUK manufacturer got their launch coordinates wrong and placed the launch site FULL in mercenary controlled territory to start the social media types laughing.

    You would really think that with all of that FSB and MoD brainpower they might be able to come up with something better and or at least "not faked".

    NICE TRY #Russia! BUK maker- #MH17 shot down by old missile version no longer in use http://24today.net/open/428766 #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/swMZnmePQx

    Russia: "We do NOT have 9М38-M1 #Buk missiles!!! REALLY!!!"
    9th May 2015 (!) in #Chita: 2x 9М38-M1
    video @g39452441

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXaVIJX7iT4

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    I do wonder if they realize they're pointing to a launch site in separatists territory on purpose #MH17


    Buk M-1 was the missile system seen by @AP reporters in the area 3hrs before #MH17 disaster. July 2014 AP report http://bit.ly/1mNKpM1 2/3

    Acc to official Ukrainian map (no 17), launch site proposed today was inside rebel territory when MH17 was shot down http://www.radiosvoboda.org/media/ph.../26969959.html

    This is the missile system Russia says shot down MH17:
    pic.twitter.com/kIHk4ejdpr


    Another weapons system for shooting down MH17 comes out of the BUK presentation today.

    In short: Boeing was shot down like that (Ukr Su+missiles from Ukr Buk). It's possible next version of "Almaz-Antei" pic.twitter.com/fPN5YFLfZn

    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    Following @bellingcat debunking of all #Russia's old #MH17 lies, here comes a whole crop of new ones, courtesy of the #Buk manufacturers.


    In 2012 #Russia Defense Ministry TV posted a video of Russian troops firing a 9М38-M1 missile. via @g39452441
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQT6Rd3p1eQ

    Here is a nice shot of 16x 9М38-M1 #Buk missiles, the #Kremlin, #Russia's flag, #RedSquare... missing 297 #MH17 dead. pic.twitter.com/j9PZ0xmHPV
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    Russia about to be labeled as a party of the war against Ukraine and a state sponsoring terror. http://en.censor.net.ua/news/338436/...rgen_rozmaznin

    Representatives of Russia should be excluded from OSCE mission - Major-Gen. Rozmaznin | http://EN.Censor.net http://en.censor.net.ua/news/338436/...rgen_rozmaznin

    Yes, pull them out! "Most of OSCE officers understand the situation in ATO zone, exception is the RF reps." @OSCE_SMM http://24today.net/open/428708

    UN: Russian servicemen involved in fighting in #Ukraine
    http://uatoday.tv/geopolitics/un-rus...ne-431130.html … pic.twitter.com/7CL7rdsdCc

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    Russia’s Top 5 Fakes & Stupidities About Ukraine This Week

    http://www.interpretermag.com/moscow...aine-this-week … @PaulGoble1 via @Interpreter_Mag pic.twitter.com/lXLLcsjLY1

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    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/0...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Military update 6.01

    Posted on June 2, 2015 by tilamuse

    Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

    Operational data from Information Resistance:

    Over the last 24 hours, Russian-terrorist forces in Donbas shelled the positions of Ukrainian troops and civilian objects from infantry and heavy infantry weapons, artillery, and armored vehicles.

    The positions of ATO forces were repeatedly shelled in the vicinity of Pisky and Opytne, fire strikes were inflicted on positions near Avdiivka, several mine explosions were recorded in the vicinity of Vodyane. Terrorists used 82- and 120-mm mortars, as well as SPG-9 “Kopye” during these attacks. Two firestrikes were made from ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft systems mounted on vehicles.

    In the vicinity of Shumy and Leninske, several insurgent infantry groups invaded the “neutral zone” and shelled the outposts and forward positions of ATO forces from small arms and heavy machine guns. Ukrainian troops returned fire, forcing the enemy to return to its starting positions.

    Several enemy sniper teams are operating on the Mariinka – Shumy stretch. These groups fight using the same tactics: they approach the forward positions of the ATO forces under cover of their unit’s small arms fire, they disguise themselves, open fire on command, and then, they step back to their starting positions under cover of their insurgent unit’s small arms fire (sometimes – mortars). A sniper terrorist group that uses the same tactics has been observed in the vicinity of Shyroka Balka (Artemivsk direction).
    NOTE: Indication of Spetsnaz sniper teams--my comment.

    An insurgent sabotage and reconnaissance group (12 people) has been discovered by a military guard near an outpost of Ukrainian troops. After a brief firefight, the enemy sabotage and reconnaissance group retreated to the Syhnalne – Olenivka stretch.
    NOTE: Indication of Spetsnaz team--my comment.

    Near Shyrokyne, terrorists fired using 82- and 120-mm mortars, AGS-17 “Plamya” automatic grenade launchers, and SPG-9 mounted grenade launchers. Several fire strikes from 122-mm artillery have been observed (the [strikes] adjusted due to the change of firing positions of the insurgent artillery units).

    In the vicinity of Shchastya, Trokhizbenka, and Zolote active armed clashes continued between insurgent sabotage and reconnaissance groups and the ATO forces. Positions of Ukrainian troops in the vicinity of Shchastya received aimed fired from machine guns and AGS-17.
    NOTE: Indication of Spetsnaz --my comment.

    The enemy used tanks, BTR-80, and BMP-2 to fire north of Yasynuvata near Troitske.

    During the past 24 hours, insurgents continued intensive road transports on occupied territory. The most active movement of transport has been observed in the vicinity of Donetsk and Luhansk. Two convoys have been observed between Alchevsk and Luhansk (6 and 13 vehicles respectively). One of the convoys was escorted by a BTR-80. In addition, active transport movement has been recorded between Amvrosiivka – Starobesheve – Dokuchajevsk (a tactical group centered between Dokuchajevsk and Olenivka replenishes material and technical resources).

    Movement of military units and equipment:

    • A “DNR army” unit numbering 150-160 people has arrived in the vicinity of Spartak. The unit includes mortar crew detachements (three 82-mm mortars), four IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], and up to 10 trucks.

    • A local terrorist “battalion” in the Petrovskyi district of Donetsk has held a rotation and received reinforcements (for resupply up to 50 insurgents came with small arms and 3 SPG-9 units came from the south).

    • The movement of armored vehicles has been observed between Yasynuvata and Horlivka: 11-12 vehicles proceeded in the northern direction (six of them – tanks). Insurgents set up a service center for armored vehicles near Panteleymonivka.

    • The transfer of terrorist equipment and weapons continues between Pervomaisk – Stakhanov – Donetsk. Seven tanks and four ACVs have been transferred from Stakhanov towards the Bakhmut highway (three BMP-2 and a MT-LB). Six APCs and ACVs have been moved to Pervomaisk. Three D-30 howitzers on a trailer and two APCs have been transferred towards Perevalsk through Debaltseve and Chornukhyne. 18 ACVs and five or six tanks have been moved from Oleksandrivsk towards Zholobok.

    • There is continued transfer of military equipment to insurgent “training centers” near Lutuhyne from Luhansk and Krasnodon; some of the equipment is transported from the Russian Federation by Russian servicemen. During the past 24 hours, we observed four BTR-80, two 80A\82A APCs, an armored reconnaissance and patrol vehicle, two BTR-70 APCs and four MT-LB armored towing vehicles being transferred to these “educational centers” (the latter vehicles – as modified artillery fire control vehicles). Currently, terrorist units from the “LNR army” get trained near Lutuhyne for operations in the northern districts of Luhansk region.
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    kaur--from our favorite Russian mercenary aka Girkin who is married, drives a great new MB, now resides in St. Petersburg and still is giving interviews--strange that he is still alive after everything he has been saying lately.

    Most of which has actually been true.

    Alleged statement from Strelkov claims Surkov was in Donetsk this week for stormy consultations with DNR leadership http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_61411

    If true--then why the heavy shellings and ground attacks unless it is the last hurrah for the mercenaries before that they to pack in the New Russia concept and bury the idea they will be annexed into Russia.
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    kaur--at some point one has to feel actually sorry for any official Russian agency or in this case the actual BUK manufacturer--once they began the lying to cover up their shot down of MH17 things went from bad to worse with every "new story".

    In the middle of the BUK presentation from the manufacturer the social media open source analysts were "shredding into really really small pieces" the myths being stated by even the BUK manufacturer.

    It took all of 20 minutes to debunk this new "story" --seems that even the BUK manufacturer got their launch coordinates wrong and placed the launch site FULL in mercenary controlled territory to start the social media types laughing.

    You would really think that with all of that FSB and MoD brainpower they might be able to come up with something better and or at least "not faked".

    NICE TRY #Russia! BUK maker- #MH17 shot down by old missile version no longer in use http://24today.net/open/428766 #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/swMZnmePQx

    Russia: "We do NOT have 9М38-M1 #Buk missiles!!! REALLY!!!"
    9th May 2015 (!) in #Chita: 2x 9М38-M1
    video @g39452441

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXaVIJX7iT4

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    I do wonder if they realize they're pointing to a launch site in separatists territory on purpose #MH17


    Buk M-1 was the missile system seen by @AP reporters in the area 3hrs before #MH17 disaster. July 2014 AP report http://bit.ly/1mNKpM1 2/3

    Acc to official Ukrainian map (no 17), launch site proposed today was inside rebel territory when MH17 was shot down http://www.radiosvoboda.org/media/ph.../26969959.html

    This is the missile system Russia says shot down MH17:
    pic.twitter.com/kIHk4ejdpr


    Another weapons system for shooting down MH17 comes out of the BUK presentation today.

    In short: Boeing was shot down like that (Ukr Su+missiles from Ukr Buk). It's possible next version of "Almaz-Antei" pic.twitter.com/fPN5YFLfZn

    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    Following @bellingcat debunking of all #Russia's old #MH17 lies, here comes a whole crop of new ones, courtesy of the #Buk manufacturers.


    In 2012 #Russia Defense Ministry TV posted a video of Russian troops firing a 9М38-M1 missile. via @g39452441
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQT6Rd3p1eQ

    Here is a nice shot of 16x 9М38-M1 #Buk missiles, the #Kremlin, #Russia's flag, #RedSquare... missing 297 #MH17 dead. pic.twitter.com/j9PZ0xmHPV
    Russian MH17 humor:
    Vladimir Putin
    Every victory day the Russian military displays its BUK units which are of a type only Ukraine has. #MH17
    pic.twitter.com/i76gNjw3zz

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    Putin's greatest single fear--a "Moscow Maidan".

    Russian police is getting ready for a serious confrontation w/civilians: video of mil exercises on shooting protests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eflt0NTM-ek

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