#Putin’s big navy plans sunk by #Ukraine warOriginally Posted by OUTLAW 09
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4463123.ece …
Seems the Right Wing European Parties are in full support for Russia these days—maybe they were hoping to get 11M Euros if they voted for Russia and against the EU Parliament????
Shocking: UKIP MEPs side with Front National to try and block criticism of Russia funding political parties in Europe pic.twitter.com/6fvo9IX7yJ
#Putin’s big navy plans sunk by #Ukraine war
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4463123.ece …
VIDEO: Rus terrorists shelling Shyrokyne with self-propelled artillery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRZ3MEvJRUU&sns=tw … pic.twitter.com/4GShKdXDwr
#Russia Air Force grounds 'Bear' bombers following accident and fire http://www.janes.com/article/52100/r...ident-and-fire … #Tu95 pic.twitter.com/kCRsGMu9tR
Russian journalist quits and apologises for taking part in 'propaganda madness'
http://uatoday.tv/politics/russian-j...ss-436389.html … pic.twitter.com/ZWHAvRnJA6
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/op...trol.html?_r=0
Putin’s Warlords Slip Out of Control
By ADRIAN KARATNYCKY
JUNE 9, 2015
KIEV — In waging a clandestine war in eastern Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has made a bargain with the devil. He has farmed out much of the fighting to warlords, mercenaries and criminals, partly in an attempt to simulate a broad-based indigenous resistance to Ukrainian rule. But Mr. Putin’s strategy of using such proxies has resulted in the establishment of a warlord kleptocracy in eastern Ukraine that threatens even Moscow’s control of events.
Surrogate fighters were recruited from four sources: local criminal gangs; jobless males who live on the fringes of eastern Ukraine’s society; political extremists from Russia’s far right, including Cossacks; and itinerant Russian mercenaries who fought in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Transnistria and other regional conflicts in the post-Soviet Union. They have been trained and equipped with modern weapons, and are often supported by Russian regular and special troops.
These irregular forces now form the backbone of the armies of Donetsk and Luhansk, two mostly Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine along the border with Russia. Those separatist enclaves are dominated by well-armed criminal networks whose leaders play key roles in local politics, both formally, as government leaders, and informally, as chieftains of gangs with their own turf. These men and women have supplanted the pro-Russian elite that had held sway in the area since Ukraine’s independence in 1991.
By striking a bargain with what are, in effect, local warlords, Mr. Putin is recreating a model Russia first tried in Chechnya more than a decade ago. There, the Russian government made common cause with Ramzan Kadyrov, the son of a prominent Chechen mullah turned separatist president. Mr. Kadyrov, whose clan had once backed the indigenous independence movement, switched sides in 1999 and, with Russian help, seized power in Chechnya. Chechen resistance was defeated, as the Kremlin had hoped, but at the cost of letting a local warlord with his own powerful army gain near-total sovereignty.
While Mr. Kadyrov regularly pronounces his personal loyalty to Mr. Putin, he brooks no intervention from federal Russian authorities. He flouts Russian law, for example by permitting polygamy. On April 21, he stated his sovereignty with clarity, telling his fighters that if any security officer, “whether from Moscow or Stavropol, appears on your territory without your knowledge, shoot to kill. They have to take us into account.”
The Kremlin is now repeating its reckless policy from Chechnya in eastern Ukraine, with similar results. Although the leaders of Donetsk and Luhansk rely on training and arms from Russia, their crime-based financial independence also gives them incentives to play their own game.
Continued....................
3:50PM
Sounds like fight continues in #Shyrokyno. https://twitter.com/Shimshen/status/608617329925197824 …
OSCE Spots More Armour East Of Volnovakha. Preparations For A Pincer North Of Mariupol? http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...-wounded/#8770 …
Fighting intensifies near Donetsk airport
http://uatoday.tv/politics/fighting-...rt-436563.html … pic.twitter.com/tDMIzLyiCl
The soldiers who died in #Ukraine were elite #Russian Spetsnaz, & @skystallard found the graves for @SkyNews pic.twitter.com/CqvG4EYHJA
.@skystallard et al investigate the deaths of three Russian soldiers who the Kremlin says were not in Ukraine. http://news.sky.com/story/1499223/ru...aine-questions …
USG found #Russia in violation of INF Treaty last July. New State Dept compliance report released June 5 reaffirms violation
US says #Russia violation of INF Treaty continues, and Moscow reacts badly to possible US military response. http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order...r-treaty-pifer …
Good analysis using open source media on the Cyper Berkut activities
Comprehensive analysis of recent Cyber Berkut activity using #threatintel from the Web: http://bit.ly/1IsCv8g pic.twitter.com/V1wfUiIGAy
Zaharchenko: "DNR" will defend the independence from Ukraine http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/10-june...ependence-from … #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/dVyq52P94M via @MilitaryMaps
The rebels in eastern Ukraine were for Kiev's claims on Crimea before they were against them https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/10...laim-on-crimea … pic.twitter.com/uvaRmaUiwI
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...mlin-creation/
Strelkov aka Girkin is at it again—amazing he has not been killed—either he has one heck of a life insurance policy OR he has a major hidden “protector” with tons of documents--tipping protector with documents----
Ex-terrorist leader: only an idiot will deny that “republics” in Donbas are a Kremlin creation
2015/06/10 • Russia
Igor Girkin, ex-minister of defense of the so-called “Donetsk People’s Republic” has once again publicly contradicted Russia’s official denials of its involvement in the war in Ukraine. Answering a question about Russian volunteers coming to fight to Ukraine’s war-torn eastern regions at the Polit-Ring show on Neuromir TV, the former terrorist leader commonly known as “Strelkov” stated that, increasingly, the Russian volunteers that come to Donbas to defend the “Russian world” that is attempted to be instated in the Luhansk and Donetsk “People’s Republics” (“LNR” and “DNR”) return to Russia in disappointment.
“They see the chaos that is going on there. And the chaos is quite terrible. They [the militants] come there being motivated, understanding that they were going to defend the ‘Russian world,’ but now are forced to defend regimes that were planted with the Kremlin’s support. It is useless and foolish to deny this. To think that they [the separatist “republics”] formed by themselves means making an idiot or a fool out of oneself,”
Girkin commented, noting that only a small fraction of the Russians coming to fight in Donbas are wounded or captured in battle: most leave Donbas, disenchanted with the chaos and lawlessness, which he calls “Makhnovschina,” referring to the times of the anarchist leader Nestor Makhno whose Black Army fought to create a stateless anarchic society in eastern Ukraine during 1918-1921. He notes that while the terrorist republics, in particular, the “DNR,” have tried to combat this anarchic “Makhnovschina,” some armed formations wreaking havoc in Donbas are endorsed by the authorities and cause more mayhem than the informal ones, and that the authorities don’t even try to address this problem and are an “imitation” and “simulacra.”
In the interview, Girkin also states that Ukraine is ahead of the separatists in creating an efficient army. “In a year or maybe less they will be able to fight against Russia. Because it will be a large army. Yes, it will be loose and poorly instructed, but it will be a real large army with combat experience,” he said. Girkin also noted that though the Ukrainian soldiers can be called “undisciplined drunkards,” the “militia” of the self-proclaimed republics is doing the same. “Everyone is drunk, a huge development of drug addiction – it’s true,” he stated.
Girkin goes as far as to commend the Ukrainian government in their recent war-related initiatives:
“Ukraine is creating necessary tools. I understand that there a draft bill adopted on introducing martial law [Girkin is referring to the bill on the legal regime of martial law signed by Ukrainian President Poroshenko on June 9]. This will allow them in the event of the exacerbation of the situation to use the army lawfully, to introduce martial proceedings, to carry out confiscations under the law, and not according to what every commander on the site imagines doing, to carry out mobilization and introduce compulsory labor. There is nothing close to this in the “LNR” and “DNR.” Ukraine is consistent, it creates tools for conducting full-scale war, an army, it has created an anti-Russian ideology and is consistently implementing what its leaders say. And for us, it’s the usual business: we say one thing, do another, while wanting yet something else. So we end up with something strange… if we end up with anything at all.”
After fleeing to Russia in August 2014 together with other terrorist leaders of the self-proclaimed “republics,” Igor Girkin has given a series of interviews contradicting the official Russian version of events in Donbas. He has slammed the leadership of the self-proclaimed “republics” in Donbas, declared that the Crimean referendum is a farce, admitted to starting the war in Donbas, stated that Putin might end up in the Hague.
Like her work as she has a grasp of Russia I do not see from others.
http://www.the-american-interest.com...g-with-sharks/
The Kremlin Sends a Message-Swimming with Sharks
Lilia Shevtsova
The Kremlin is sending a message to the West’s Russia experts: if you want to talk to us, you need to toe the line.
An interesting thing happened this past week. The Western accommodationist school, which has been calling on the West to “understand” the Kremlin and stop irritating it, even as it tries (and often succeeds) to preserve its reputation as an alternative voice, suffered a humiliating setback. The Western supporters of the “let’s accommodate the Kremlin” mantra will now have to follow the example set by their counterparts in the Russian accommodationist school, who were already given to understand that they had to forget about their reputation if they wanted to remain in the profession. The Kremlin has rejected ambiguity, forcing the intellectual and political community to choose sides in the black and white landscape: “Those who are not with us totally and unequivocally, are against us!” Nearly all Russian foreign policy experts (with few exceptions) have made their choice, preferring to remain in the approved mainstream and in line with the Kremlin.
Now it’s the Western accommodators’ turn to choose, much to their consternation. Quite a few of them apparently had hoped their model of relations with Russia would work, and that they could continue to discuss with their Russian counterparts solutions for the Ukrainian problem and for easing tensions between Moscow and the West without becoming Kremlin mouthpieces. Not any more. Last week the Kremlin issued an ultimatum: if you want to be our counterparts, you have to accept our truth!
The bitter irony is that Moscow chose the shrewdest among the accommodators to be the whipping-boy: the managing director of Kissinger Associates, former White House Russia hand Thomas Graham, a person with strong knowledge of Russia and powerful connections in the country. The choice of Graham, I think, was deliberately made to convince the rest that times have changed and there is no more room for ambiguity.
Graham has spent a great deal of time and energy over the years trying to persuade the West to understand the Kremlin’s arguments. One might even say that the Kremlin owes Graham and those like him a debt of gratitude for their efforts to portray the Kremlin’s arguments in a less threatening light. Sometimes Graham and his colleagues undertook initiatives that were puzzling. For example, according to former FSB General Leonid Reshetnikov, director of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies (until 2009 a Russian foreign intelligence institution), which allegedly offered justification of the Crimea annexation and Russia’s involvement in Ukraine, Graham and a Carnegie team approached them with a plan for peaceful solution to the Ukraine crisis. “We spent long hours with them”, said General Reshetnikov.
And the reward for all these efforts? The Chairman of the Russian Duma Sergei Naryshkin, responded to an essay written by Graham in the Financial Times with guns blazing, accusing him of harboring a condescending attitude toward the Russian people. “As if diverting accusation from the Russian president of all sins, Graham accused all Russian people. It appears that we are hegemons, barbarians and imperialists at the same time,” rages Naryshkin. As if on cue, other pro-Kremlin media chimed in with accusations that Graham is a Russophobe! One should not be so naive as to think that Chairman Naryshkin has nothing better to do than to dash off a response to every FT op-ed he disagrees with. Nor is it that he felt particularly stung by Graham. Rather Naryshkin is sending a clear message to the Western community on behalf of the Kremlin, laying out the narrative boundaries Western experts and politicians ought not to cross if they wish to remain in the Kremlin’s good graces.
I agree with Naryshkin, however, that Graham’s piece is condescending. Indeed, Graham presents a caricature of Russia. He argues that the West doesn’t have a Vladimir Putin problem but “a Russia problem”—specifically the problem of Russia’s tradition of personalized power and subjugation. “The Russian president stands within a long tradition of Russian thinking. His departure would fix nothing,” says Graham. Isn’t there at least a tinge of racism to this idea—that Russians are destined to an autocratic rule?
The accommodationists have used this argument before to help explain the need to deal with “Russia as it is” and not get hung up on criticism of Russia’s leadership. This argument is the basis of the realist-pragmatist approach. Until now it has never really bothered the Russian leadership. It’s quite an irony, therefore, that Graham’s argument seems to have united in outrage both the Russian opposition and the powers-that-be.
At the root of the problem is the accommodationists’ failure to realize that we have turned to a new page in the Russian story. If they wish to maintain their access to the Russian mainstream, they will have to change their political vocabulary. Mentioning the Russian tradition probably would not annoy the Kremlin too much, but the rest of Graham’s lexicon has to be retired permanently. Among his offending words are his description of Russia as “the declining state,” his characterization of Ukraine as “a barrier to Russia’s assault on European norms and unity,” and the very idea of containment. All of these concepts are unacceptable, Naryshkin warns.
If the accommodationists have any question about what their new talking points should be, Chairman Naryshkin helpfully points to the French, who have developed “constructive ties with Russia.”
Have the accommodationists received the Kremlin’s message? If so, which way will they swim? It’s hard to say, of course, but one thing is clear: Swimming with sharks is always a risky business.
Appears now there is the start of an "internal Russian discussion"--will be interesting to see if it has legs or it get's shut down by the FSB.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...garding-ukrain...
Russian newspaper: Regarding Ukraine, Putin’s actions undercut Putin’s arguments
2015/06/10
Russian actions in Crimea and the Donbas “have weakened Russian arguments about the change of power in Kyiv” at the time of the Maidan and thus cost Moscow support in European and other Western capitals, according to a lead article in “Nezavisimaya gazeta” today.
In his interview with “Corriere della Sera,” Vladimir Putin repeated his longstanding views about the Maidan and the subsequent change of power in Ukraine, arguing that the change in power in Kyiv was unconstitutional and that the West should not be supporting those who came to power as a result.
Moreover, in the same interview, Putin suggested that the reason the Maidan happened was because then incumbent president Viktor Yanukovich did not immediately sign an agreement with the European Union. “But the new authorities also put off its signing. So why should the former have been overthrown if they behaved reasonably?” in Putin’s view.
Many would dispute Putin’s version of events and suggest that Yanukovich “delegitimized himself” as a result of a whole range of actions. But Putin’s argument “is not without an internal logic” and might have been accepted by Europe as significant “if it were not for two ‘buts’ – Crimea and the Donbas.”
Most of the European political establishment and society, the Moscow paper’s editors say, “consider that Russia seized and continues to occupy the territory of a sovereign state,” something that for them is “completely unacceptable.” And consequently, they are not interested in what Putin has to say about the Maidan, especially when they are convinced that Kyiv’s effort to join the West and “defend itself from an aggressive neighbor” is completely reasonable.
“Putin cannot present the annexation of Crimea in a way that the Europeans will consider it as well-based,” the paper says. The Kosovo argument “doesn’t work,” given that Milosevich was in the eyes of the Europeans carrying out a genocide against the Albanians, something for which there was no analogy in Ukraine.
Nor does his argument that Crimea became part of Russia as the result of an expression of the popular will, the editors continue. Europeans believe that for such a referendum to be valid, it has to be procedurally correct, correspond to Constitutional norms, and involve more time for free debate about its outcome.
Consequently, “if Russia criticizes the change in power in Kyiv as procedural arbitrariness, then does this mean that [the world] must welcome such arbitrary actions in Crimea? How do new mistakes with far-reaching consequences assist in the correction of previous mistakes?”
At the same time, the paper points out, “few in Europe believe that Russia is not providing active support to the militants in the Donbas, not supplying them with arms, not consulting with them, and not sending into the region its own soldiers.” Given that, few Europeans are willing to listen to Putin’s argument about anything else.
And that includes Putin’s arguments about Eurasian integration. He insists it is like European integration and thus is upset that Europeans do not support it. After all, why should they have anything against Moscow when Russia is only doing what they are? But for Europeans, Putin’s analogy in this regard is not convincing either.
“The European Union is an historically unprecedented project,” the Moscow paper says. “Bt the integration processes which have Moscow as their center recall to Western Europe the Soviet Union, which for decades was conceived as an opponent. Any movement toward the reintegration of the post-Soviet space generates among Europeans distrust and fear.”
Moreover, the paper continues, “Russia is not doing anything to dispel this fear. On the contrary, to take pride in the Soviet past and ‘the times when they feared us’ is considered correct in the Russian Federation.”
European integration is “super-national” and based on “blurring” the borders of member states, “Nezavisimaya gazeta” says. “If Russia asserts that its project is analogous, then why does its ruling elite talk so often about some kind of Russian world? And why has it annexed Crimea if integration processes are objective and Ukraine has nowhere to escape from them?”
16:15 #Telmanove @eco127127 #Telmanove was shelled at 16:15, southwest part of
#Donetsk
17:44 @ludmilka1906 "Strange sounds, like shooting or..."
17:45 @AlfaNubovsky SA bursts in Politboitsov & explosion?
17:35 #Donetsk @AlfaNubovsky Dropside covered truck w/troops tow/airport
The “pincer” tank strategy has returned to the battlefields of eastern Europe. https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/08...ar-in-ukraine/ … pic.twitter.com/Z0F5yG13Yc
Reference Moldavia---Transnistria
Russian forces will hold military drills in Transnistria http://www.segodnya.ua/world/rossiya...e--622819.html …
bellingcat @bellingcat
Reviewing the July 17th sat imagery we ordered, it's clearer than ever the Russian MoD satellite image evidence was false
As Russia attempts to turn Transnistria into another non linear warfare (UW) "hotspot" it is also focusing on creating even another "hotspot" for the EU/US/NATO to focus on-Croatia.
Russian Accuses Croatia of Converting Orthodox http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti..._8UEoI.twitter …
Russian MFA alleges mass conversions of Orthodox 2 Catholicism in Croatia. Which even Serbian Orthodox Church denies
Croatia has achieved an uneasy peace w/Serb minority. Moscow seeks to wreck that, damn the consequences.
More Russian non linear warfare (UW) activity this time in Latvia --
https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/10...base-in-lavtia
Russian activists detained after breaking into military base in Lavtia
17:27,
10 June 2015
Several activists from the Other Russia movement have been detained at a military base in Latvia, after they climbed the fence, tore down a US flag, and replaced it with another flag in the colors of St. George’s Ribbon (a symbol of pride in the Russian military).
On its official website, Other Russia claimed responsibility for the stunt, boasting that its activists managed to reach the base’s headquarters.
A Latvian military official later confirmed that guards apprehended several individuals trying to enter the base illegally.
Our action was a peaceful, precautionary measure. But the United States should know that Russian people won’t tolerate military blackmail and threats.
Russian humor:
At customs in Italy.
Name?
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Occupation?
No. It's local uprising and there are no Russian soldiers involved
And the Russian military especially the GRU Spetsnaz did not see this coming???
Since he has been basically “abandoned by his own government" I assume he is now “stateless” ---so free to do what he wants to do compliments of Putin’s “there are no Russian soldiers in the Ukraine policy”.
SBU offers Erofeev political asylum in Ukraine, - lawyer http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/10-june...kraine--lawyer … pic.twitter.com/NPsnq6OvDV via @rbc_ukraine
Nothing like good old Orwellian Russian double speak----
Denis Pushilin and Vladislav Deyny, representatives of the self-proclaimed "Donetsk People's Republic" (DNR) and "Lugansk People's Republic" (LNR) respectively, issued a clarification (translation by The Interpreter):
But today's political realities are such that the status of the DNR and LNR must be determined within the framework of the Minsk agreements. We want to emphasize that these agreements are supported by our ally, Russia. According to these agreements, it is necessary to determine the status of the Donbasss precisely through amendments to the constitution of Ukraine. But in the Ukrainian Constitution there is an article about the Crimea. Therefore in our proposed drafts to specific articles of the current constitution of Ukraine, the Crimea is mentioned strictly in a technical and legal sense. This mention does not have any substantive weight. For the simple reason that the Crimea is not and cannot be the subject of the Minsk talks.
The substance of our proposals is in the reinforcement of the special rights of the DNR and LNR but not in side phrases of the existing laws of Ukraine which we do not recognize.
But since Ukrainian propaganda is trying to blow up out of these insignificant formalities some sort of political event, we once again officially state that the DNR and LNR consider Crimea and Sevastopol as an integral part of Russia. And to avoid any further speculations on this topic we recall those draft amendments to the constitution which we proposed in which Crimea and Sevastopol are mentioned. The drafts of the rest of the amendments we propose to Ukraine to accept without delay.
The @OSCE_SMM report of 09 June says the area around #Donetsk train station was hit by Grad rockets. The use of Grads has increased recently
Ukrainian POW Retracts Statement Made Under Torture and Threats by Russian-Backed Separatists http://bit.ly/1KW7pX8 pic.twitter.com/sQKWOxszs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANvsNJI6r0U … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDczNl181A … #Russians shelling #Shyrokyne, #Maryinka today. pic.twitter.com/WqN2MTq34K
Another independent report on Russian soldiers KIA in Ukraine adds to the mountain of evidence
http://news.sky.com/story/1499223/ru...aine-questions …
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VIDEO: Russian military equipment on the move west. (Unknown date or location)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82jCP0hA8x0&sns=tw … pic.twitter.com/00yT71K8m7
New footage of first explosions at military training ground in Rostov region (RU) on 4.28.15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLvn20whNWY&sns=tw … pic.twitter.com/6gvfj3tdEc
GRAPHIC details of the explosion----
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Notice that nothing was stated by Russia or the mercenaries about the elections to be held under Minsk 2 using Ukrainian election laws and that the Ukraine does not recognize the so called mercenary leaders as they were not elected to their positions under Ukrainian election laws.
Ukraine has stated over and over once the elections take place and elected officials are in place then and only then will they negotiate. Russia has attempted to get the Group of Four to include the mercenaries in order to give them some respectability as “legal representatives”-rejected by the Ukraine which can in fact make the rejections.
Russian propaganda 4Ds—dismiss, distract, distort, dismay designed to create 2Ds—distrust and doubt.
What are the Ds in this press release????
http://tass.ru/en/world/799931
TASS
Self-proclaimed republics' proposals make compromise in Ukraine possible — diplomat
June 10, 13:10 UTC+3
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin noted that the Contact Group in Minsk and its subgroups have hardly achieved anything significant due to Kiev’s political juggling
PARIS, June 10. /TASS/. Kiev’s actions are evidence of rejection of Donetsk and Luhansk, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin told journalists on Wednesday ahead of the Normandy Four meeting.
"The gesture, the proposals on the table put forward by representatives of Donetsk and Luhansk open real possibilities for searching a compromise if Kiev really wants it," Karasin said. "Because we have some uncertainty about the real intentions of the Kiev authorities. Everything that is done in reality serves as evidence that Kiev rejects Donetsk and Luhansk," the diplomat noted.
"New proposals provide common ground for joint search [for compomise] based on respect, on equal dialogue, and we will support that," he stated.
Karasin noted that the Contact Group in Minsk and its subgroups have hardly achieved anything significant due to Kiev’s political juggling.
"What is happening in Minsk cannot but cause disappointment, because although sub-groups gather for meetings and the Contact Group summarizes the results, we cannot say some significant results have been achieved," he said. "Mostly this is a result of Kiev’s political juggling. On the one hand Kiev vows commitment to the Minsk Accords, but in reality it blocks the implementation of these agreements."
While preparing for a meeting of the Contact Group in Minsk planned at the end of this week, the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk republics announced new proposals on the constitutional reform in Ukraine. A month ago, the republics already put forward several conditions. Their positions has not been described in more detail - DPR and LPR directly confirmed their readiness to remain part of Ukraine and asked Kiev to keep current leaders - Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky - on their posts.
The diplomat said Russia expects the meeting of the Normandy Four political directors will put pressures on Kiev for the sake of implementing the Minsk Accords.
"We expect that today’s meeting will persuade Kiev to move faster towards the implementation of the Minsk Accords of February 12," he said. "The Normandy group gathers for the sake of controlling and analyzing progress in negotiations by the Contact Group and the four working subgroups along the main tracks - humanitarian, security, constitutional reform and political, economic and social affairs."
Karasin said that taking part in today’s discussions will be OSCE special envoy Heidi Tagliavini and head of the OSCE’s special monitoring mission Ertugrul Apakan.
"They will present their judgements. We may express some wishes and proposals regarding where we should be moving on. We will report the results to the leaders of our countries. In a word, there is no easy and very crucial work ahead," he said.
"Time is ripe for practical decisions. Precious time for moving forward is running out. We must be aware of how dramatic the situation is. The more so, since the leaders of our states met in Minsk last February to accelerate progress. Possibly, by the end of this year we will have an outline of a peace political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis."
Shellings and a number of strong ground attacks some lasting several hours---
23:10 #Shyrokyne intensity of the bombardment by the enemy fell. However, battle continues. #OSCE arrived https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/608730251414384642 …
22:50 #Shyrokyne. During the fierce battle two fighters of Regiment "Azov" WIA. One fighter later died https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/608725781506863104 …
23:00 #Shyrokyno
"The enemy stubbornly trying to storm our positions, but gets in the teeth. All our positions held" https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/608727535992582144 …
Ongoing fighting ighting in #Shyrokine for over 3 hrs, @Polk_Azov fighters wounded
Two soldiers were wounded in Shyrokyne http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/10-june...d-in-shyrokyne … via @dertien1488
#Donetsk 11:12PM
Periodic flashes in the sky in the north-east (#Avdiivka \ #Yasinovataya) https://twitter.com/AkaDON12/status/608728509268291584 …
#Horlivka 11:11PM
Heavy incoming, Over 120-mm. Falling straight on the ruscists. https://twitter.com/xy_gorlov4an/sta...28263603695616 …
#Horlivka 11:05PM
Heavy incoming towards the quarry https://twitter.com/xy_gorlov4an/sta...26825498460160 …
#Shyrokyno 23:20
Enemy artillery silenced. Battle continues with RPG and AGS. The enemy suffers losses. https://twitter.com/UaForces/status/608732483471949824 …
Checkpoint 29
1 KIA, 4 WIA https://twitter.com/mrtoxa5555/statu...15274880184320 …
#Donetsk
10:14PM
Three rounds (shells) fell in the area of airport - #Spartak https://twitter.com/idinmor/status/608713802000011265 …
#Donetsk 10:11PM
Volleys, Howitzer/SPG and not just one. You can hear far away, but powerful. https://twitter.com/Buzzing_Rook/sta...13315913756672 …
#Shakhtarsk 10:11PM
At the same time 4 drones fly in the sky (to north) https://twitter.com/Donbass_UA/statu...13093670170624...
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