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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    I also wrote a number of times that the Russians have been in violation on a number of treaties and agreements;

    1. INF violation
    2. Budapest Memo
    3. Helsinki Agreements
    4. and they failed to destroy a large amount of armored assets (under OSCE agreements they signed) that are now currently in the Ukraine
    5. also in violation of the Russia/NATO Basic Agreements

    AND this confirms the Russians were and are in violation of the OSCE disarmament agreements they themselves signed.

    Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: CFE treaty "is 'dead' for us, and we are not returning to it"
    http://sputniknews.com/politics/2014...014919548.html


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    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated that Russia has suspended the implementation of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

    MOSCOW, November 19 (Sputnik) — Russia has suspended the implementation of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE), considering it "dead," and will not return to it, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday.

    "We have stopped the implementation [of the CFE Treaty], and it is 'dead' for us, and we are not returning to it," Lavrov said during a government meeting in the lower house of parliament.

    "The Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe does not work for us. After the Warsaw Pact had been dissolved and the old [version of the] Treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe had been adapted to the situation when there was no Warsaw Pact anymore, we ratified it in its adapted version, while NATO refused to do it. We waited for several years, as you know, and said, 'Sorry, then.' We do not consider the old CFE Treaty something obligatory for us, so we suspended our observance of the treaty in accordance with the stipulated provisions," the minister said.

    The original CFE Treaty was signed in 1990 by 16 NATO and six Warsaw Pact members setting equal limits for each bloc on five key categories of conventional armaments and military hardware, including tanks, combat armored vehicles, artillery, assault helicopters and combat aircraft.

    An “adapted” version of the CFE treaty was signed in 1999, but NATO members refused to ratify it until Russia withdrew troops from Georgia and the breakaway Moldovan region of Transdnestria, a criterion Russia regards as an “artificial linkage.” In December 2007, Russia imposed a unilateral moratorium on the CFE treaty, citing it’s “irrelevance” over NATO's plans to increase its military presence in Eastern Europe and the alliance's refusal to ratify the adapted version. In November 2011, NATO member states said they would no longer exchange information on conventional weapons and troops with Russia.
    The sleep deprivation is catching up with Lavrov, says they're leaving CFE, but they did in 2007:

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    Seems as if Russia cannot catch a break---someone hacked into the Donetsk CCTV network and caught the latest Russian humanitarian aid convoy towing field artillery into Donetsk last night.

    The previous aid convoy only brought in tires, fuel and oil for vehicles BUT no food for the civilian population---that is just how much Putin cares about his "Russian civilians" he claims he is protecting.

    Meanwhile, #Russian #humanitarian(r)aid convoy spotted at #Donetsk streets with artillery, #NSC reports

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mong...ature=youtu.be

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    Over the last few days the shelling/mortar attacks on Ukrainian positions has intensified by the mercenaries and Russian troops to over 70 attacks yesterday up from a norm of 30 average.

    NSDC:Increasing the intensity of attacks "militants".
    http://bit.ly/1vBGb49

    Although it appears the Ukrainian counter battery return fire is getting better each day---there were rumors that it is actually quite good when allowed to return fire. Then add the US supplied counter battery radar sand things will get far more interesting for the Russian troops and mercenaries.

    Last night 28 times the #Ukraine forces opened artillery backfire at Russia-led terrorists, forcing them to shut dow http://expres.ua/news/2014/11/23/119...ystiv-28-raziv
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    Annexation was the easy part but it seems that both Russia and her troops and mercenaries seem to have not been able to "pacify" the locals---well so much for the myth that all of eastern Ukraine is Russian.

    After all that Russian "humanitarian aid" (8 convoys total) it seems the locals are getting restless--no food has gotten to them, it is cold with limited water, electricity and gas and there is no money available for their pensions and salaries for the teachers.

    Rumors have it that a rep from the Donetsk council informed Kyiv they would accept Ukrainian aid and please just do not cut off the electricity, gas, and water---well so much for not asking for help from the "junta led by fascists" and so much for all that Russian "aid".

    Activists report that people in at least 8 large towns in terrorists-controlled east #Ukraine are going to protest.

    http://expres.ua/news/2014/11/23/119...yhnut-protesty

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    There have been an increasing number of indicators that the Ukrainian military is shifting to a guerrilla war that is slowly becoming effective.

    UA guerrillas say they have mined the part of border w/ #Russia where RU army enters #Ukraine

    https://vk.com/antiterrorist_operati...71731464_83128 … pic.twitter.com/B3GDvJOnso

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    Looks like the various Russian imported mercenary groups are fighting with each other---so much for Russian unity.

    #Luhansk city was bombed tonight, sources say.
    Would be first time since MONTHS!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xFF5FFQtkw

    And to be clear: Nothing points at the Ukrainian army at this point.
    Escalating conflict between Cossacks and LC "government",I would guess.

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    Since the Russian troops and their mercenaries have been unable to retake the Donetsk airport they now propose to make it "demilitarized" but only what the Ukrainian airborne controls not their piece of the airport.

    #Russian media: #Donetsk People's Republic proposed to make #DonetskAirport demilitarized zone. Only that part where #Ukraine army resides

    Side note---Stalingrad was held for a total of 155 days---the Donetsk airport has been held by no more than 200 fighters for well over 180 days now.

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    Tymchuk: the Russian army continues round-the-clock shelling of Ukrainian positions in Luhansk/#Donetsk #Ukraine in order to gain new ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Tymchuk: the Russian army continues round-the-clock shelling of Ukrainian positions in Luhansk/#Donetsk #Ukraine in order to gain new ground
    Appears as if the Russians are attempting to encircle Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve after basically taking major losses at the Donetsk airport and gaining nothing there---will be interesting to see how US counter battery radar reinforces this area as the Ukrainians have dug in and have been returning fire and holding their own.

    Seems the Ukrainian Army now understand that solid defense positions can in fact delay and disrupt the Russian troops as based on Russian doctrine still current they need a 4 to 1 attacking ratio in order to feel comfortable of winning a fight.

    KYIV, November 24 /Ukrinform/. A further increase in the number of Russian-terrorist forces is being reported in the area of Debaltseve, Information Resistance group leader Dmytro Tymchuk has said.

    "After unsuccessful attempts by the enemy to move to the outskirts of Debaltseve from the direction of Nikishyne and Chornukhyne three tactical groups of local militants pulled Russian servicemen to the 'first line.' In particular, at least one enhanced company tactical group of Russian troops was sighted, with up to 15 armored vehicles and two artillery units supporting them. About ten mortar positions of militants were spotted," reads the statement.

    High rate of Russian troop and mercenary shellings still continue.


    Ukrinform @UKRINFORM

    Militants shell Ukrainian positions 56 times in past 24 hours

    http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/mil...4_hours_327328

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    Russian cellphone activity has been a lousy failure when they attempted to place OPSEC at the forefront of their security---meaning Russian troops have now been expressly forbidden to take smart phones into the Ukraine---seems all their social network entries are shooting holes in the Russian denials that there are no Russian troops in eastern Ukraine.

    Makes it hard for Putin and his FM to keep saying "it ain't us" when there are up to 5-6 Russian soldier social media entries daily about their military activity inside the Ukraine.

    This Russian soldier near Mariupol may be why Russia just banned iPhones in army.

    http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...desantnik.html … pic.twitter.com/uqk2RtjvU2

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    Here comes more Russian aircraft movements in the Baltics.

    Latitude 67N SIGINT @uascan
    @uascan clearly a lager movement of TU95/22 ongoing

    RUAF strategic air forces (TU22/TU95) sw net up with voice traffic. Bears or Backfires flying today?

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    Ukrainian Army getting better at shooting down Russian UAVs.

    Ukraine Live: Two Drones Shot Down By Ukrainian Anti-Aircraft Artillery Near Mariupol.

    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...24-hours/#5103


    Have often here criticized the lack of a Western push back on the Russian info war campaign and yet the West still does not get it.

    Russian military efforts are being heavily supported via the Russian info warfare and yet NATO/EU/US are out for coffee.

    http://www.egmontinstitute.be/public...isinformation/
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    Latest tactical situation in eastern Ukraine:

    11.24.2014
    Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

    Operational data from Information Resistance:

    On the Russian-occupied territory of Donbas, terrorist forces continue activities to create the so-called “Army of New Russia.” The process of uniting the gangs, which is taking place under the control of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, supported by the FSB, is accompanied by clashes between armed groups. There are cases of arrest of some of the representatives of the terrorist groups. The most active clashes occur in the southern districts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions, where Russian mercenaries (primarily the so-called “Cossacks”) are waging an armed struggle with small groups of local militants who had fled from the districts of Horlivka, Makiivka Yenakiievo, Stakhanov and Donetsk. The command structure of the new “army” is not able to control these terrorist groups in the territory as the “DNR” and “LNR.”

    In the district of the Debaltseve bridgehead a further increase in the activation of Russian-terrorist forces is recorded. After the enemy’s unsuccessful attempts to move to the outskirts of Debaltseve on the side of Nikishyne and Chornukhyne by 3 groups of local militant tactical fighters, Russian military were put into “the first line.” In particular, recorded were at least one reinforced company tactical group of Russian troops with armored vehicles (up to 15 units), as well as its 2 supporting artillery units. Also in this sector, about 10 militant mortar counts were recorded.

    Recorded earlier in the district of Vuhlehirsk, a new gang is restricting itself to the application of massive strikes from cannon and rocket artillery in an effort to cause the destruction of Ukrainian troops by shelling from a long range. 2 consolidated artillery divisions have been identified, one of which includes at least one battery of MLRS.

    In the districts of Donetsk and Avdiivka, after losses incurred, the main forces of the Russian-terrorist troops moved away from the line of contact with Ukrainian troops. At the same time, Russian-terrorist forces did not cease to apply fire strikes on the positions of Ukrainian troops. Enemy artillery positions were recorded in the area of Spartak, the Putilov bridge, Yakovlivka in the Kyivsky and Kuibyshev districts of Donetsk.

    In the district of Dokuchajevsk-Novotroitske-Olhynka, there is a further increase in the groupings of Russian-terrorist forces. In particular, the resupply of individual groups and divisions continues.

    In the band from Shchastya–Stanytsia Luhansk, the enemy is enhancing its frontal pressure on Ukrainian troops to prevent the transfer of their reserves to the area of the Seversky Donets river crossing, and at the same time is increasing its own force in this region.

    Russian-terrorist troops are actively using artillery, including reactive, heavy infantry weapons, and sporadically activating armored vehicles. The enemy is seeking to squeeze Ukrainian troops from the most advantageous positions (height, transport forks, defense units), trying to keep them under constant fire exposure.

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    An interesting read:

    Putin Will Continue to Fight Dirty in Ukraine: He is bent on wining ugly, but is losing the plot

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinio...ne/511655.html

    Taken from the article---referring again to the Russian Bosnian solution for the Ukraine:

    QUOTE:
    Moscow's interest is in forcing Kiev to integrate the separatist Donetsk and Luhansk republics as "special status regions" in a "federalized" Ukraine under a new constitution. The objective is to "re-establish" the Ukrainian state as a Bosnia-style confederation of the eastern (Russia-dominated) regions and the western regions, each with the option to chose their international security and trade arrangements — a form of Russian veto over NATO and EU membership.
    UNQUOTE
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    #Russia Chechen Mercenaries in #Ukraine publish photo of themselves on social network
    http://bit.ly/1xUEIGT
    pic.twitter.com/nQRvwUVbf3

    And the Russians continue provoking the Baltics.

    Putinescapades: MoscowTimes: Lithuania Accuses #Russia of Blocking Its Trucks at Border
    http://tmt-go.ru/511758

    VIDEO on VK #Russia terrorists hit by #Ukraine artillery shelling (Excellent gunners)
    http://bit.ly/1pg4phU
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    By moving the S400 AD system close to the Finnish and Norwegian borders Russia has effectively established AD control of their air space.

    That is in effective a very warlike move since the Russians have been complaining about the US missile defense systems in Poland and Bulgaria.


    Russia has S-400 anti-aircraft missile system near borders of Norway and Finland

    http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/a...777258052.html … pic.twitter.com/TU0ywxqZIu

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    #Russia Chechen Mercenaries in #Ukraine publish photo of themselves on social network
    http://bit.ly/1xUEIGT
    pic.twitter.com/nQRvwUVbf3

    And the Russians continue provoking the Baltics.

    Putinescapades: MoscowTimes: Lithuania Accuses #Russia of Blocking Its Trucks at Border
    http://tmt-go.ru/511758

    VIDEO on VK #Russia terrorists hit by #Ukraine artillery shelling (Excellent gunners)
    http://bit.ly/1pg4phU
    Even the OSCE cannot get the mercenaries to stop firing even when they are on the ground in the various locations.


    Lugansk News Today @LUGANSK_TODAY

    #OSCE failed to help in Tryokhizbenka near #Lugansk. Terrorists from #LPR continued shelling

    http://lugansk-news.com/osce-failed-...nued-shelling/
    pic.twitter.com/2nAsmkq864

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    Extremely insightful research on former GDR Stasi (MfS) records just released that gives a strong insight to the Russian paranoia of the US trying to gain nuclear superiority over Russia then the Soviet Union and a possible US nuclear first strike on the SU now Russia which the Soviets felt would in fact happen in83/84.

    An extremely important set of documents to read through as it goes to Putin's current mindset in ways not previously written about and it is from the Stasi/MfS point of view and Markus Wolf the GDR spy chief felt the documents would never see the light of day which makes them even more interesting.

    All documents were found recently in the German Stasi/MfS archives and then released---they still have over 16000 file folders that have not been translated and or even reviewed for their significance.

    http://wilsoncenter.org/publication/...g-nuclear-war?
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    Not so sure who is living in a "greater altered state of reality" Putin or his supported Russian mercenaries these days.

    But to complain that the Ukrainian Army is returning fire on mercenaries and Russian troops inside the Ukraine who shell them first is like telling a shark it cannot defend it's own environment especially if it is attacked by another shark.

    It's is like hey we can shot at you all day, but you are not "allowed" to shot back.

    #Pervomaisk:Rus invaders again complain that the Ukr army is firing back on its own territory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_jTTODimo

    pic.twitter.com/CW5hBZrPdA

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    And the military efforts of the Russian troops, their mercenaries and criminal gangs just keeps ongoing.


    Near #Volnovakha the enemy is sending equipped recon groups to watch #Ukraine positions

    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...94653047330021

    pic.twitter.com/7W3yZwMDhK

    Evidently Russian SF preparing for winter fighting.


    Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR

    #Russian special forces are preparing for winter #warfare inside #Ukraine
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...83737145015761
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