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    What is Kerry "seeing" what the rest of Europe not "seeing" when he talked about Russia yesterday?

    Putin on Ukraine: "We are right, and our Western partners are wrong."

    See no willingness to compromise in that press comment just stated.

    Now in the press conference Putin just "expanded" his Putin Doctrine to include "Slavic" countries.

    Putin: Slavic countries are economically weak and not independent. But people's desire for cultural unity, at least, cannot be destroyed.

    THEN this:

    Insane #Putin claims,hundreds of Ukr soldiers,caught by his army in #Ilovaisk,are not "POW" but under #terrorism investigation
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-18-2014 at 11:51 AM.

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    Appears something is now in the works with Russian troops inside and or on the border to the Ukraine otherwise this would not be coming across the blog sphere.

    Has never occurred before.

    Pres #Poroshenko convenes the National Security and Defense Council at 16.00 - due to "escalation of the situation" @ukrpravda_news

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    Russian tanks T-64A, recently seen near Sambek (Rostov region), now in Ukraine.
    pic.twitter.com/nQLL1QJTOe

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    It is interesting how Russia interprets the world around them and negates that reality if it does not jive with their own "world vision".

    Ukraine stopped the payments and bank transactions as they simply have no governance control over the occupied regions and yet Russia states that they are not to do that---actually Russia attempts again to dictate what a sovereign country can and or cannot do.

    Important in Putin's presser: claims Ukraine's "economic blockade" of DNR/LNR militants is "method of force". Russia will try to change that

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian tanks T-64A, recently seen near Sambek (Rostov region), now in Ukraine.
    pic.twitter.com/nQLL1QJTOe
    Recently there was a statement out of Russia that all the photos, videos of Russian equipment and troops in the Ukraine were "fakes".

    Here is another "fake' photo showing Russian tanks inside the Ukraine which is considered by Russians to not be "evidence".

    New #pictures from the "DNR military vehicle repair facility" in #Donetsk
    More proof of the #RussianInvasion (T-72B1)
    pic.twitter.com/TN6f2CB2It

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears something is now in the works with Russian troops inside and or on the border to the Ukraine otherwise this would not be coming across the blog sphere.

    Has never occurred before.

    Pres #Poroshenko convenes the National Security and Defense Council at 16.00 - due to "escalation of the situation" @ukrpravda_news
    Maybe this is the reason---potential of large scale Russian troop entering the Ukraine from Russia.

    While we were listening to #putin,more RU military machinery started moving to UA border. Via @NSDC_ua

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    We have debated Russia's moves and listened to Putin's explanations ie NATO expansionism, humiliation etc---but if one understands this quote from his press conference today then one can understand exactly why he will only compromise on his terms as anything else is a defeat in his mindset.

    And after Cuba he is "hoping" for a grand bargain with Obama similar to Yalta over his "declared sphere of influence".

    This is why I do not understand Kerry's recent comment about seeing some improvement---where was the improvement other than words--there has been no improvement in his actions on the ground in eastern Ukraine.

    This was the top Putin quote of the day from his three hour press conference.

    pic.twitter.com/SSZKa3tF4Q
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-18-2014 at 03:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    We have debated Russia's moves and listened to Putin's explanations ie NATO expansionism, humiliation etc---but if one understands this quote from his press conference today then one can understand exactly why he will only compromise on his terms as anything else is a defeat in his mindset.

    And after Cuba he is "hoping" for a grand bargain with Obama similar to Yalta over his "declared sphere of influence".

    This is why I do not understand Kerry's recent comment about seeing some improvement---where was the improvement other than words--there has been no improvement in his actions on the ground in eastern Ukraine.

    This was the top Putin quote of the day from his three hour press conference.

    pic.twitter.com/SSZKa3tF4Q
    Not the only one seeing that Putin at this moment and time is not in a compromising mood other than a "victory" defined by himself.

    "there's very little evidence that Putin is interested in a reasonable conversation with his Western counterparts" http://www.bloombergview.com/article...-you-should-be

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    Ukraine SBU detain commando group of Russians & ex-felons, inc. two FSB recruits

    http://nvua.net/ukraine/specsluzhba-...kov-25680.html
    pic.twitter.com/TTShii9ATg

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    More "non evidence" Russians are inside the Ukraine which the Russian FM just keeps repeating over and over is a "lie".

    #Russian soldiers captured in #Ukraine,
    http://nplm.in/8cb
    pic.twitter.com/spZ5M7bvkX

    Russia's "most combat-ready forces" regroup in #Donbas' outback while "local poorly trained/armed terrorists" man the front.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-19-2014 at 08:56 AM.

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    SBU detained a 30-year-old Luganchanku with 3 kg of explosives on #Maidan. She worked 4 Russian GRU.via @tombreadley
    pic.twitter.com/OSTPQH5ZLV

    SBU video of Luhansk woman detained: Allegedly working for Russian GRU she was caught w/ 3kg explosives
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ad8r4X_2TY

    Elements of a missile found in bodies of #MH17 passengers. Investigation focus of both A2A and SAM missile
    http://bit.ly/1C7Guq3


    Ukr servicemen eliminated 5 militants who entered Shchastya in ambulance car & attacked them. Ukr forces suffered losses –NSDC

    Kremlin-led insurgents fire on Ukrainian positions nine times in past 24 hours - http://24today.net/open/247673
    pic.twitter.com/hIeAhTpPO2

    "...polls find that [Russian] support for the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine have fallen from 74% to 23%."
    http://econ.st/12QluVl

    LEADER OF #RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES IN SEVASTOPOL ADMITTED THAT THE ANNEXATION OF #CRIMEA WAS PLANNED BY #KREMLIN IN 2004
    https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?


    It doesn't stop. 5 locations of combat on @NSDC_ua 's map of Eastern #Ukraine 19.12. http://goo.gl/yDfYYe
    pic.twitter.com/S12j8NJCCw"

    Friday, December 19, 2014
    Russia transported T-64A tanks into Ukraine first half of December open source analysis and geo tagging by ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl
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    #Russian 137 Ryazan airborne regiment again at the #Ukraine's border.

    https://informnapalm.org/4029-ony-ve...ovskoj-oblasty
    pic.twitter.com/YpekOgmZre

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    Conflict News editor @K_JG1992 looks into Russias new MBT based on the scrapped Object 195
    http://www.conflict-news.com/russias...tive-new-tank/
    pic.twitter.com/CfMl3HVLO3

    If you have half an hour spare, listen to this "The Knights of New Russia" fighting in Eastern Ukraine
    http://bbc.in/1C29Bef

    VIDEO Compilation - #Russia's military equipment and presence in #Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYMqS1OUhE
    pic.twitter.com/QYSuKfuIN6

    #Starobilsk, Luhansk reg, 9K33 Osa
    pic.twitter.com/R1GMZKpVSP

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Conflict News editor @K_JG1992 looks into Russias new MBT based on the scrapped Object 195
    http://www.conflict-news.com/russias...tive-new-tank/
    pic.twitter.com/CfMl3HVLO3

    If you have half an hour spare, listen to this "The Knights of New Russia" fighting in Eastern Ukraine
    http://bbc.in/1C29Bef

    VIDEO Compilation - #Russia's military equipment and presence in #Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYMqS1OUhE
    pic.twitter.com/QYSuKfuIN6

    #Starobilsk, Luhansk reg, 9K33 Osa
    pic.twitter.com/R1GMZKpVSP
    #Russia|n #Army Reg.#Ryazan 137thPDB106th Airborne Division in border region #Ukraine.
    http://bit.ly/13JkYcT
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    #Russia|n #Army Reg.#Ryazan 137thPDB106th Airborne Division in border region #Ukraine.
    http://bit.ly/13JkYcT
    pic.twitter.com/YXIOg48gU6
    Russian army troops keep teaching local terrorist and Rus volunteers how to handle artillery.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1rLE0QPLkw
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    Article concerning the Russian GRU informational-psych ops operating out of the occupied areas of eastern Ukraine.

    According to operational data from Information Resistance:

    Agencies of the informational-psychological operations (IPSYOPS) of the GRU of the General Staff and the Russian Federal Security Service [FSB] were tasked to carry out a large-scale information campaign to disrupt or substantially obstruct preparations for the 4th round of mobilization in Ukraine.

    The operation is planned in conjunction with the structures of the “information war” of the Russian-terrorist forces, created in the occupied areas of Donbas by GRU experts of the RF General Staff.

    The main purpose of the operation is to disrupt or ultimately hinder the mobilization [in Ukraine] through a large-scale disinformation campaign, thereby preventing the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations to increase the number of operating reserves, or to significantly slow down and complicate the process.

    The Ukrainian reservists and their family members are the designated target groups and objects of this campaign. The task – is to create a negative context around the ongoing so-called anti-terrorist operation (the unbearable living conditions of Ukrainian soldiers in the ATO zone; a representation of the ATO forces as “cannon fodder;” the presentation of terrorism in Donbas as a “national liberation movement,” etc.).

    During the operation, there are plans to make extensive use of the formation of “properly
    structured public opinion on social networks” with the assistance of video and audio materials and various “eyewitness statements.” In addition, IPSYOPS agencies in Russia and Donbas are tasked with establishing “a direct or indirect impact” on the audience through some Ukrainian mass media to create so-called “secondary credibility,” primarily through the publication of “credible materials for investigative journalism.”

    At least two organizational and administrative meetings took place to discuss the coordination of activies under this operation by the Russian IPSYOPS agencies and the relevant institutions created on the occupied territory of Donbas.

    Source: Dmitry Tymchuk FB

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    Fred Westerbeke, chief prosecutor, writes in letter "there can't be another weapon than a BUK missile" in #MH17
    http://bit.ly/1H9rvK8


    VIDEO #Russia part time VDV Spetsnaz Vasily Butenko w 106th Airborne Division in #Ukraine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsvlwdHF_0
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    While everyone seems to be worried about Sony and NKorea---there has been a deep hacker war already ongoing between Russia and the Ukraine and yet the US media seems to not have known much about it.

    A recent Ukraine hacker hack on the Russian Ministry of Interior servers revealed actually confirmed via Russia documents Russian troops inside the Ukraine which Putin and his FM state over and over they are not---was there any mention in the US media?

    Nothing.

    BBC News - Ukraine conflict: Hackers take sides in virtual war
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30453069
    pic.twitter.com/PEaPcuwjVL

    Reconnaissance #Drone|s #Army #Ukraine.Recon #UAV's nowadays is foundation,without undue risk... Zone #ATO #Ukraina.
    pic.twitter.com/hqgrCEUF9N

    At night terrorists shelled Ukr positions in the area near Olkhovatka w/ Grad MRLS https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/posts/914190811925059
    pic.twitter.com/7cNn0py79p

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    for those that think that after Putin's three hour press conference he is for compromise ------

    #What_ceasefire?!
    Nikishyne was attacked w/ grenade launchers.
    Sokolniki,Opytne,Krymske,Pisky,Debal'tsevo and Donetsk airport w/ small arms.

    From last night:
    Russian invaders fired multiple #Grad rockets from a BM-21 system at Ukr-held #Olkhovatka tonight.

    Militants keep shelling localities in the conflict zone. Y'day a 9 y.o. child was killed in #Horlivka http://www.unian.net/society/1024113...y-rebenok.html

    The enemy shelled 9times at #Ukrainian army positions near #Smile & #Frunze http://novosti.dn.ua/details/241068/
    pic.twitter.com/8lwJdb35QC

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    Another day in the Ukraine---

    "Humanitarian aid" from #Sevastopol to "#Novorossiya"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h1S1wH-fZo
    What stands on the Kamaz? pic.twitter.com/2wtBA7w0KZ

    #Starobesheve, Dec 12
    #Russian_Army T-72B1
    All #H2200,@RuRailways-transported.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsg6V6pH9c8
    pic.twitter.com/EjYNKhHPLh

    Broken down Russian tank at Starobesheve (part of Dec 12th HUGE redeployment) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsg6V6pH9c8
    pic.twitter.com/CL5rnJlgLC

    Sounds of artillery fire in eastern #Mariupol today.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALlV2o-X1Y

    Head of "DNR": Kyiv sabotages Minsk talks
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/20-dece...s-minsk-talks-
    pic.twitter.com/CoaAlCysZW

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