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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ukraine has fully blocked the border crossing point to Crimea

    http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/27-dece...order-crossing

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    Not only #Ukraine trains stopped service to #Crimea, but #Belarus trains too. #Russia media dumbfounded and lost for words


    People in #Crimea return rail tickets as #Ukraine freezes transport links. Blackouts too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30608174
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    VIDEO #Ukraine troops on front line in Chernukhino/Chornukhyne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2UayckFCH8
    Bearing the brunt of attacks
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    Russia's "jihad" in Ukraine:Man accidentally blew himself on the way to attack police station in Odesa
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    Unusual might be the headline on this:

    BREAKING #Russia|n forces are being mobilised in #Kaliningrad



    Evidently the test drill on 16 Dec was a smokescreen to keep the units there fully mobilized.

    we have a local source. The deployment is a follow-up to 16 Dec surprise drills, many units didnt rtn to base, but stayed mobilized

    Rumors that #Russia'n units in #Kaliningrad remains mobilized after last round of exercises partly confirmed by SIGINT
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    Slipping tanks into Donbas in small batches over time, so Western media barely notice & govts can look the other way.

    NSDC - #Russia terrorists use silent mode (ceasefire) to regroup
    http://bit.ly/1HPrE61
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    More GRU troops flow into the Ukraine
    #Russia #Army 16th Brigade of Main Intelligence Directorate (Mil. Troop 54607) in #Donbas #Ukraine

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    #Russia #Army 16th Brigade of Main Intelligence Directorate + batteries BM-21 "Grad" dislocation in #Donbas #Ukraine
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    Terrorists keep blocking the Oktyabr-Pavlopil road not letting civilians out of the occupied areas - #ATO news center

    Militants fired at Ukr forces 9 times today, attacked the checkpoint near Vilkhove, the attack was repelled - #ATO news center

    APC from Russia´s 23rd Motor Rifle Brigade in Donbas
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Not only #Ukraine trains stopped service to #Crimea, but #Belarus trains too. #Russia media dumbfounded and lost for words


    People in #Crimea return rail tickets as #Ukraine freezes transport links. Blackouts too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30608174
    pic.twitter.com/juyn5y3YTV
    Following Ukraine Belarus cancels trains to Crimea.

    Locals say there is riot of people wishing to leave Crimea at Simferopol railway station

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    In order to fully understand the Russian mindset for their aggression into the "New Russia" ie eastern Ukraine one has to fully understand the current ultra nationalism ie Russian form of fascism that drives the new Russian neo imperialism.

    I shortened the article--well worth the read from the beginning to the end.

    https://ninabyzantina.wordpress.com/...ssians-awaken/

    This is written by the top Russian neo fascist who is close to Putin.

    Battle for the State. Russians Awaken.

    July 11, 2014 / Nina Kouprianova


    An Awakened Russian Defending the Russian World is a True Delight

    Alexander Dugin


    Translated by Nina Kouprianova

    In the political sense, the situation in Russia is becoming quite critical. These are fundamental shifts rather that fluctuations at the surface. Let us attempt to create a conceptual schema of current events.

    There is a People (Narod in Russian, akin to the German Volk: henceforth the term “Narod” will be used—editors), and there are people (population). These are different things (different concepts). And all of them are collectively known as “Russia.” This homonymy generates layers of meaning, and everything gets tangled. Let us orthogonalize the full picture by placing everything onto its own level.

    Narod is a historical-cultural community. This is a subject of destiny and creator of history. However, not all philosophies and ideologies recognize its existence in this sense. Narod does not exist for the Liberals—there is only an aggregate of individuals. Nor does it exist for the Communists—only classes do; for the Nazis—only race exists; and for the fascists—only the state does. And, even though it sounds paradoxical, Narod does not exist for the nationalists either—for them, there is a political nation based on individual membership (the classic bourgeois nation is a product of Europe during the period of Modernity). Narod does not exist for all these ideologies—this is the complete ideological nomenclature of Modernity. But it does exist—it is the only thing that truly exists. Heidegger used to say, “Dasein exists through a People” (Das Dasein existiert völkisch). That is to say, man’s presence in the world is given to us through Narod. It provides us with language, appearance, psychological attributes, a place in time (history) and space (geopolitics).

    Today, Russia’s Narod awakens breaking through the depths of its dreams—difficult and simple, impoverished and enriched—but dreams nonetheless. It views Crimea and Novorossia as territories of its awakening. Thus, Narod heads to a place where the Russian Light pulls it in like a magnet, shining through the heroes of Novorossia. These are not emotions, chauvinism, or ultra-patriotism. This is not a “hurray” or a surface, but, rather, it is the voice of our ultimate Russian depths. We exist authentically only when faced with death. Only when faced with death does it become clear what it means to be Russian. People go to Novorossia, to Donetsk and Lugansk, obeying the Will of Russian History, drawn in by the Russian Death. It is this Red Death that makes Russians what they are. Death in the world. In the name of Narod. Death for Narod is life. Thus, people go to Novorossia to live in the Russian way.

    Igor Strelkov is the symbol of the Russian Narod. Strelkov is the embodiment of our spirit, our will, our resistance. And even if we are not there with him, he makes us ashamed of ourselves and proud of him, but most important, he inspires Faith in our Narod. Strelkov exists authentically. In him, our Narod finds its image. And all those who are with him—Gubarev, Motorola, Mozgovoi, Babai, Purgin, and all the heroes of the Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples’ Republics, living or dead—they are all our Narod, its faces. As it is. As it exists. One cannot rip it out, pollute it, or relativize it.

    There is also a population, the people. If our Narod is united on both sides of the border, then the population is different. People are not exactly Narod, or more specifically, not quite Narod. They could become the latter if the depths awaken in them, if they face Death, if they wake up. But they could also fail. In that case, they are individuals concerned with survival, comfort, contentment, success, career, material well-being, etc. The individual is the antithesis of Narod, a product of its decay. Narod separates into individuals in order for them to unite in it once again—as in a Church, Cathedral, Motherland. But sometimes this return does not happen. Then we are faced with the pure individual. On his own. In Greek, this kind of a pure individual without any ties to the Whole or his Narod was known as idiotes, a private citizen, which is the source for the term “idiot.” Population comprises idiots in the etymological sense. Narod is something entirely different—it is that which man becomes only when he addresses his own depths, lives inside history, and hears the voice of the Motherland’s sacred space. It is the individual that all political theories of Modernity address: they unite the individuals in different ways: Marxism—into classes, nationalism—into political nations, Liberals—into a civil society, but none of these is a People— Narod. Thus, Modernity rejects Narod dealing only with disparate people. People of Russia consider those in southeastern Ukraine to be different. And they are correct: from the legal standpoint, this is formally the case if the voice from the depths remains silent. In this case, it is absurd to speak of the Russian World, Russian Civilization, and Great Russia. Instead, there are the respective populations of two administrative units, two groups of individuals that have their own interests and goals. Thus, the population of Russia, people of Russia could remain deaf to Novorossia’s pain. According to this kind of logic, different people live there. They are murdered, violated, slaughtered, shelled, and bombed, but this is none of our business. This is neither good, nor pleasant, but, perhaps, they had done something wrong—people think. Yes, people survive. But Narod lives. Herein lies the difference. In order to live, Narod sends its best sons and daughters to their Death. Death for the sake of Narod, for the sake of Life. Not survival—Life.

    There also is a State. This is a mechanism, a superstructure. In it, a People—Narod sees its creation and, perhaps, the most successful of its creations. Narod creates the State as a product of its historical will, and is proud of it. But the State could tear away from Narod, forgetting its foundations. And then it could turn into a self-sufficient and dead mechanism, a machine. States could be living, but they could also be dead. A living State does not sever its links with its Narod, which created it, drawing its power from it. It lives and exists. It is. But when the State degenerates, it becomes an apparatus, machine, bureaucratic mechanism rather than an organic living whole. In that case, the State begins to view its Narod as a population, disparate people, and a mechanical sum of atoms. Any unification of these atoms—into a class, nation, or a society—is always arbitrary. The contemporary European State in the era of Modernity emerged dead from the onset. This is a mechanism of agglomerating a population. This kind of a State kills its Narod and turns it into a population. This kind of a State parasitically lives off its Narod, its pain and suffering. It kills its Narod. Finds benefit in this. Makes a Gesheft. This is the State of managers and mechanics; more specifically—a State of traders and businessmen.

    Today, this question is particularly acute: what is the Russian State at the moment? Does it belong to its Narod? Or is it mechanical? This is the principal dilemma for Putin, personally, as the head if this State with a vague dual identity. The rise of patriotism in Russia, reunification with Crimea, and the confrontation with the West are all signs of a People’s—Narod’s presence. Cynical political technologists (political scientists), the all-powerful and constantly lying top-level managers, mad corruption, dominant Liberalism, anti-Narod oligarchy, Westernizing on the part of the intelligentsia and the elites all point to the State of death, the State of survival. Putin has been balancing on this narrow fence between the State of a People—Narod and that of the mechanical and alienated Liberal elite for the past 14 years. He kept taking steps in one direction, then another. Of course, without a certain kind of support for Novorossia, today’s picture—even if critically difficult—would not be possible. Were Putin solely on the side if a dead State, Russia Corp., he would have betrayed everything himself long ago. But this is not the case. He comprises the painful drama of the Russian Statehood and its nature, crucified between Narod and the elite (always dependent upon the mass of surviving idiots—idiots in the etymological sense of the word, that is private citizens, individuals). In other words, the picture is as follows: on the one side, Putin (=State) has Strelkov as an embodiment of Narod. This is Novorossia as a whole. These are Russians and all that is Russian. On the other side, there is the elite (Yurgens in all his expressions), bureaucracy (Government, Administration), and average citizens. This is a mechanical, contemporary, Liberal, and Western State—in any case, not Narod, and in a certain sense, anti-Narod. Putin stands in between. Not Putin personally, but rather the State, its meaning and nature. .

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    These are All quotes from Dugin's Book "Foundation of Geopolitics"

    Some interesting facts for you #DuginsPlans
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    Putin's Vision of Ukraine pic.twitter.com/ESAYoTabsR

    Putin's Vision of Europe pic.twitter.com/Bb9L2FFGJ3

    Finland , Georgia , Azerbaijan ,Kazakhstan or maybe even Central Asia could be the next place for Putin's war
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    As you already know South Ossetia will be annexed by Russia and THIS is What they planned long Time ago
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    Where Putin's EurAsian Union project should expand
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    Putin's Vision of the USA
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    Putin's Vision of China
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    Putin's Vision of Turkey
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    Putin's Vision of Caucasus
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    Ukrainian fighters found flag of Serbian Cetniks
    pic.twitter.com/mt303x7mzP

    Kadyrov ranting on LifeNew: U.S. is a grave a threat to world peace bc they're terrorizing the islamic world
    http://24tv.ua/home/showSingleNews.d...ampaign=social

    Vdeo purportedly showing Kadyrov talking to #Russia-backed forces in e. Ukraine, circa Dec 4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GFJPkrjieM

    According to Kadyrov 20.000 of its "Volunteer" forces are "prepared to defend Russia wherever needed in the world"pic.twitter.com/f3rPPxPo1M

    VIDEO Shelling Gunfire #Donetsk Airport #Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUeLaNr87Sk

    'We'll make it to #Kyiv!' #Russia Today & #Russian Smokers Anonymous in #Horlivka, #Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ4YTEyKisc
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    VIDEO Happening daily: Russian convoys in Luhansk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atru...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/78S855tHR7

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaur View Post
    mirhond, I do follow Outlaw's posts. He is doing very good job covering for example this Boeing topic. During Christmas Russians are producing another wave of lies. Blessed process.

    https://www.facebook.com/18065431536...0459956719111/
    1. It would be very nice of you if you'd cross-check at least quarter of his xxxxxxx when he posts links in Russian, I'd tried once, but in vain - I can't handle that much xxxxxx, like this:

    #Ukraine partisans wiped out several #Russia soldiers near Novoazovsk,#Donetsk
    http://bit.ly/1vc9uEo
    where he cites censor.net (inventors of an anti-tank mashineguns) which cites Tymchuck (inventor of a Russian tactical nukes bombing in Lugansk) who cites «Информационное Сопротивление» which is run buy propaganda officers.

    You know, xxxxxx, so I'd rather abstain.

    2. xxxxx.
    Yours, Captain Obvious.
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    Haeresis est maxima opera maleficarum non credere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    1. It would be very nice of you if you'd cross-check at least quarter of his xxxxxxx when he posts links in Russian, I'd tried once, but in vain - I can't handle that much xxxxxx, like this:

    where he cites censor.net (inventors of an anti-tank mashineguns) which cites Tymchuck (inventor of a Russian tactical nukes bombing in Lugansk) who cites «Информационное Сопротивление» which is run buy propaganda officers.

    You know, xxxxxx, so I'd rather abstain.

    2. xxxxx.
    Yours, Captain Obvious.
    care to make a comment to this Russian mother mirhond?

    Mother of RU soldier KIA, Ukraine:
    “People in #Russia today live in terror of the authorities"
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...lared-war.html
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    Novonarnia 'partisans' recorded proof that they blew up a train near Odessa #terrorists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kotL50GD4o
    pic.twitter.com/coW8MocN14

    Y/day militants attacked Ukrainian forces East of #Mariupol. A 20 y.o. National Guard serviceman was killed
    http://www.0629.com.ua/news/701172

    Regiment Donbas fighter who was released from captivitiy recently "RUS soldiers have white armbands"
    http://www.hromadske.tv/society/rosiis

    Militants fired at Ukr forces 8 times at night. There was an engagement near Pervomaysk https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/posts/920212677989539
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    1. It would be very nice of you if you'd cross-check at least quarter of his xxxxxxx when he posts links in Russian, I'd tried once, but in vain - I can't handle that much xxxxxx, like this:

    where he cites censor.net (inventors of an anti-tank mashineguns) which cites Tymchuck (inventor of a Russian tactical nukes bombing in Lugansk) who cites «Информационное Сопротивление» which is run buy propaganda officers.

    You know, xxxxxx, so I'd rather abstain.

    2. xxxxx.
    Yours, Captain Obvious.
    mirhond--care to explain just what a "Slavic appearance" is?

    Russian terror forces arrested100 people on #Simferopol's central market because of "non-Slavic" appearance

    mirhond--is it also true that Russia's really only just care about cheap vodka and not about what Putin does and or does not do? that would explain the price freeze

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    Dead Ukrainian Soldiers show signs of torture (+18, graphic photos ) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
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    Russia linked to bombings in Odessa, Kherson, Kharkiv - Ukrainian state security adviser Lubkivsky says
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/29-dece...herson-kharkiv

    #Russian secret trial to convict opponents of #Crimean annexation #Sentsov #Kolchenko http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1419727403
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    Head of communist party Boris Litvinov showing the new DNR 'monopoly' money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjN7x31Qyms
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    Village of Pisky destroyed: Invaders’ scorched earth tactics (PHOTOS)
    http://wp.me/p4bJDw-7lg
    http://fb.me/6Y3NXlSfZ

    Ukraine SBU detain two terrorists & discover cache of weapons in #Donetsk region http://bit.ly/1xtO8tK
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    So annexation is out “integration” is now “in”
    Luhansk Republic is looking for "Integration" into Russia
    http://novosti.dn.ua/details/241695/

    VIDEO-Footage of #Donetsk airport,Allegedly taken today.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9d6XBLvq_w&sns=tw
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    Attack on #Donetsk Airport repelled, 3 #Ukrainian soldiers and 14 terrorists dead, 1 terrorist taken captive

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    1. It would be very nice of you if you'd cross-check at least quarter of his xxxxxxx when he posts links in Russian, I'd tried once, but in vain - I can't handle that much xxxxxx, like this:

    where he cites censor.net (inventors of an anti-tank mashineguns) which cites Tymchuck (inventor of a Russian tactical nukes bombing in Lugansk) who cites «Информационное Сопротивление» which is run buy propaganda officers.

    You know, xxxxxx, so I'd rather abstain.

    2. xxxxx.
    Yours, Captain Obvious.
    mirhond care to comment on Dugin's statements in his article and book as I notice you ignored it but complained about totally something non relevant.

    https://ninabyzantina.wordpress.com/...ssians-awaken/

    This is written by the top Russian neo fascist who is close to Putin.

    Battle for the State. Russians Awaken.

    July 11, 2014 / Nina Kouprianova


    An Awakened Russian Defending the Russian World is a True Delight

    Alexander Dugin

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    Who would have thought the Russians had a guilt complex about their lying?

    Moscow regrets Red Cross official describing aid convoys to Ukraine as invasion
    http://tass.ru/en/russia/769882

    Russian attack helicopters 20 km from Ukrainian border. https://vk.com/idseregavdv?z=photo53...photos53882998 … pic.twitter.com/vX7sc2WU4v

    This is how Checkpoint #31 looks like in times of truce: constantly being shelled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAK3pMJmx40
    pic.twitter.com/q6DVmtsdai

    Shells land in no mans land at Donetsk Airport during 'truce' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUeLaNr87Sk#t=13
    pic.twitter.com/xZvNaofqEv

    OSCE_SMM: their UAV was exposed to GPS jamming twice and temporarily lost its primary GPS connection
    http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...e&e=3612d1ad47

    New GRADs came to Krasnyy Luch http://liveuamap.com/en/2014/27-dece...o-krasnyy-luch
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    (App 100) #Russia tanks ready to move from Krasnyi Luch to front #Debaltseve http://bit.ly/1tp82oj
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    Cyborg daredevils planting flag on 'new' terminal & showing 'tripwires' all over the place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2sTjZiFuc
    pic.twitter.com/Wdo6XgRJvp

    Russian military AN-72 aircraft intrudes into Estonian airspace at 17:25 today.
    http://fb.me/4uM0omBWv
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    Russian espionage against NATO continues to grow in scope & intensity...Who ever could have seen this coming?

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    3 Russian armed Kamaz models seen in LPR exercise.

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1531016.html

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    Photo posted on Vkontakte: Russian "little green men" and Russian T-72 tank with flag in Donetsk, Ukraine.
    pic.twitter.com/X0JP6rmp9c

    Fresh formation of 300 #Russian troops arrived in #Horlivka, took the city under control - #Tymchuk http://www.unian.info/society/10285

    Russian soldiers from Kansk/Krasnoyarsk region (Siberia) in Donbas
    pic.twitter.com/vWiOUyQmnk

    For any Western journalist who still doubts that there are Russian soldiers in East Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5n1YYJg3g … … pic.twitter.com/e0pjnQqjBk

    Militants shelled Ukr-controlled Zolote from occupied Kirovsk. 2 kids got light injuries
    http://www.moskal.in.ua/index.php?ca...s&news_id=1351
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    New mercenaries r deployed to Dokuchaevsk-Telmanove where earlier they deserted en mass
    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...14045232057469
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    Near Volnovakha 200 militants/ Rus troops, 6 armored v. moved to Ukr advanced positions
    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...14045232057469
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    Among "militants" who attacked Pisky on 31/12 & were eliminated there r 4 marines of #Russia's Black Sea fleet
    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...14045232057469

    #US releases free #GPS patch to help #Russia's lost soldiers.
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    I'm sure there's a decent reason why this group of #Chechen mercenaries invading #Ukraine call selves "TALIB". pic.twitter.com/mr8598v08b

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nQAe_ApRA … #Ukraine: Getting a handle on that #Russian flag. Better yet:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZw5w6LOT1M
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    Chechen forces in occupied Zugres
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    #Russia|n terrorist troops move to the front line again. The enemy is conducting active intelligence http://24today.net/open/262010

    A column of #Russian BPM-97 spotted in central Luhansk,1 of them flying a Russian imperial flag.
    http://informator.lg.ua/?p=58295

    Ukrainian forces shot down Russian UAV near Volnovakha
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-janua...ear-volnovakha

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    More open source debunking for Russian info war myths about MH17 that they attempt to keep spreading and western media seems intent on picking up and passing on as if valid.

    One has to wonder just why western media seems intent on not fact checking
    Russian fake reporting?

    Speaking of debunking,here's one we did on Checkdesk about the RTL Buk launch photos being faked

    https://bellingcat.checkdesk.org/en/story/130

    Did This Ukrainian Soldier Prove Ukraine Shot Down #MH17?

    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...shot-down-mh17

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    Last Post: 08-08-2006, 10:58 PM

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