Ukraine: non-military aspects (August 2014-December 2015)

[mirhond]

Ukrainians ritually attak Lenin. It looks like "hunter-gatherers kill a dimmy bear" reenactment.
What a historical irony! Those poor souls destroy statues and beat the $hit out of portraits of a man who had actually created Ukraine in its current borders.

[OUTLAW 09]

Ukrainians ritually attak Lenin. It looks like "hunter-gatherers kill a dimmy bear" reenactment.
What a historical irony! Those poor souls destroy statues and beat the $hit out of portraits of a man who had actually created Ukraine in its current borders.

Mirhond---you seem to really know Ukrainian historical borders and again you are wrong---Stalin killed how many Ukrainians when he was in power?

noticed the great Russian Federation is now "allowing" Ukranian products into the Crimea---WHY because the RF cannot feed and support their "annexed" Crimea with a ferry.

notice the same thing now in the "from Russian mercenary/troops occupied Ukraine"---

check out the map mirhond------

#Distaster #map with some reported humanitarian emergency situations appearing in the #Russian_occupied territories.
pic.twitter.com/Zt5CxjjOKS

at least check your facts correct mirhond

[kaur]

Putin arrives to Australia with war ship escort. At the same time Russian most popular news show Vremja shows fake news about downed Boeing photoshopped pics, letter in English from MIT from person bloggers can't find etc. I hope this will soon published in English.

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1203282.html?page=3

TASS is selling "official" version in English.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/759835

[kaur]

Fake story about Boeing in English.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...et-attack.html

[kaur]

Do you remeber RF ministry of defence presentation about Boeing? They were talking about SU-25 and presented pics from air traffic control centre. Leontyev was talking about another type of plane. Who should belive, mirhond?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4bNPInuSqfs

[kaur]

Some months ago we had Spanish air traffic controller Carlos, who just disappeared. Now we have guy from US.

KIEV, Ukraine — The man whose email was used as proof that Ukraine shot down MH17 told BuzzFeed News that he had found the image on a forum and was upset that it had been used so widely on Russian TV.
George Bilt—who said he is an MIT graduate and aviation expert with 26 years experience, but would not provide further biographical details—said that he had come across an earlier report by the Russian Union of Engineers (RUE) blaming a Ukrainian fighter jet for the crash, and thought that it concurred with his own amateur findings. When he saw the picture online, Bilt wrote to Andreyevsky, the “expert” from the broadcast, with a link to the forum where the image was posted, clearly stating that he had found it there.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/ru...raine-shot-dow

[davidbfpo]

Apparently President Putin has met a chilly, if not wintery reception at the G2 @ Brisbane, so much so he might leave early:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-30067612

I note Twitter reported his meeting with Chancellor Merkel last over three hours.

Meanwhile the Gold Council reports via the Daily Telegraph 'Putin stockpiles gold as Russia prepares for economic war':

The latest research from the World Gold Council reveals that the Kremlin snapped up 55 tonnes of the precious metal - far more than any other nation - in the three months to the end of September as prices began to weaken.

Vladimir Putin's government is understood to be hoarding vast quantities of gold, having tripled stocks to around 1,150 tonnes in the last decade. These reserves could provide the Kremlin with vital firepower to try and offset the sharp declines in the rouble.

Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...omic-war.html?


Just curious about this report. Is he buying gold within Russia or on the international market? Since SWC has many posts about the Ruble devaluing, being unable to borrow internationally and more - where did the money to buy gold come from?

[kaur]

David, as far as I understand Russia is buying gold within Russia. Usually local producers sell it to VTB or Sberbank. Both banks then sell it to local commercial banks and foreign buyers. Foreign buyers don't like to buy gold at the moment due to sanctions. Central bank is truying to fill their role.

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David, as far as I understand Russia is buying gold within Russia. Usually local producers sell it to VTB or Sberbank. Both banks then sell it to local commercial banks and foreign buyers. Foreign buyers don't like to buy gold at the moment due to sanctions. Central bank is truying to fill their role.

And current gold prices are on the falling side--maybe a way of trying to kept them steady as the Ruble is really taking a beating and the just passed 2015 budget still reflects the price of oil at 100USD.

[OUTLAW 09]

Seems to be a steady Russian especially Putin drumbeat that confirms his inherent fear of the Maidan affecting the rest of Russia.

Taken from the TASS interfere with Putin this weekend---a really telling statement by Putin.

Putin concludes if Ukraine totally leaves Kremlin orbit, only question of time before other regions seek autonomy from Kremlin.

So really the Russian claim of needing their own "sphere of influence" is simply a smokescreen argument.---they are simply attempting to protect the Motherland.

[mirhond]

As far as "MH 17" thread is closed - could anyone explain why Malaysia isn't a part of investigation team, as this article claims, or even is this claim true:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dow...am-jit/5415863

[davidbfpo]

As far as "MH 17" thread is closed - could anyone explain why Malaysia isn't a part of investigation team, as this article claims, or even is this claim true:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dow...am-jit/5415863

Mirhond,

A number of open sources refer to Malaysian participation in the initial JIT meetings in July 2014, on the investigation; notably Eurojust's press release:http://www.eurojust.europa.eu/press/...014-07-28.aspx

I note that Wiki refers to Malaysia not being invited to join the four nation Joint Investigation Team (JIT), which is a criminal investigation, not a safety investigation and the members are the Netherlands, Belgium, Ukraine and Australia. It is not clear why Belgium is a member. Malaysian investigators were involved it appears in the safety investigation:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...ines_Flight_17

There are numerous references to a 'secret deal' between the JIT members that to date has meant Malaysia is excluded.

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Mirhond,

A number of open sources refer to Malaysian participation in the initial JIT meetings in July 2014, on the investigation; notably Eurojust's press release:http://www.eurojust.europa.eu/press/...014-07-28.aspx

I note that Wiki refers to Malaysia not being invited to join the four nation Joint Investigation Team (JIT), which is a criminal investigation, not a safety investigation and the members are the Netherlands, Belgium, Ukraine and Australia. It is not clear why Belgium is a member. Malaysian investigators were involved it appears in the safety investigation:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...ines_Flight_17

There are numerous references to a 'secret deal' between the JIT members that to date has meant Malaysia is excluded.

reason for the four--it is a criminal investigation thus Holland and Australia as being the countries with the most civilians killed, Belgium represents the Europol/Boeing as owners of the aircraft and air crash elements and the Ukraine --where the plane crashed.

Russia excluded as it had nothing to do with either the plane as manufacturer, or was the airline and or they were not inside the Ukraine as they claim---Russia took months before they turned over their ATC tapes just recently to the investigators

they did try via Russia TV 24 several weeks ago to release a new alleged shot down version blaming the Ukrainians again but it was torn apart by bellingcat within two hours after it was shown on TV inside Russia and it was in fact a badly produced photo shopped attempt and poorly done

understand Malaysian investigators while civil crash types have a lot of input as their crash findings ie the metal frags from the BUK were embedded in the various aircraft pieces and in the bodies of those killed especially the pilot and the copilot are automatically passed to the criminal investigation side

early released crash investigation evidence has shown that it was probably downed by a missile and the plane suffered a major air breakup after being hit with a major amount of fragmentation

Russian theory of Ukrainian jet shot down has not been proven and again the latest Russian TV video and alleged satellite info was really poorly done and disproven and the Russian government has not attempted to repeat that theory again

Russia as a suspect in the shot down of the aircraft is not being told anything by the criminal investigation side but they have been attempting to get initial results but have been turned down by the criminal team

there was a small recent Russian comment that referenced the latest video that surfaced two weeks ago filmed seconds after the bulk of the plane crashed and was burning near a small village--many of the villagers were filmed and indicated they had seen a missile fired, fly and hit the plane==video was validated and geo tagged as accurate---Russia has not said a word about the video nor attempted to discredit it as they have attempted to do in the past

bellingcat just recently released a 35 page reanalysis of all open source and clearly identified the Russian SAM unit involved and the exact BUK launcher--interesting that they used the armored vehicle skirts of the convoy and identified the exact BUK launcher.

Origin of the Separatists’ Buk: A Bellingcat Investigation
Web - https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...investigation/ …
PDF - https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-conten...stigation1.pdf …

Who did what to whom? Eliot Higgins (@Brown_Moses ) digging into the #MH17 story. #verification #debunking #UGC
http://youtu.be/flCqN8_0cX4

New video of the #MH17 crash site from just after the crash, translation via @el_roosevelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpMBH8NmG4

Russian State Television Shares Fake Images of MH17 Being Attacked via @bellingcat
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2014...eing-attacked/ …

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reason for the four--it is a criminal investigation thus Holland and Australia as being the countries with the most civilians killed, Belgium represents the Europol/Boeing as owners of the aircraft and air crash elements and the Ukraine --where the plane crashed.

Russia excluded as it had nothing to do with either the plane as manufacturer, or was the airline and or they were not inside the Ukraine as they claim---Russia took months before they turned over their ATC tapes just recently to the investigators

they did try via Russia TV 24 several weeks ago to release a new alleged shot down version blaming the Ukrainians again but it was torn apart by bellingcat within two hours after it was shown on TV inside Russia and it was in fact a badly produced photo shopped attempt and poorly done

understand Malaysian investigators while civil crash types have a lot of input as their crash findings ie the metal frags from the BUK were embedded in the various aircraft pieces and in the bodies of those killed especially the pilot and the copilot are automatically passed to the criminal investigation side

early released crash investigation evidence has shown that it was probably downed by a missile and the plane suffered a major air breakup after being hit with a major amount of fragmentation

Russian theory of Ukrainian jet shot down has not been proven and again the latest Russian TV video and alleged satellite info was really poorly done and disproven and the Russian government has not attempted to repeat that theory again

Russia as a suspect in the shot down of the aircraft is not being told anything by the criminal investigation side but they have been attempting to get initial results but have been turned down by the criminal team

there was a small recent Russian comment that referenced the latest video that surfaced two weeks ago filmed seconds after the bulk of the plane crashed and was burning near a small village--many of the villagers were filmed and indicated they had seen a missile fired, fly and hit the plane==video was validated and geo tagged as accurate---Russia has not said a word about the video nor attempted to discredit it as they have attempted to do in the past

bellingcat just recently released a 35 page reanalysis of all open source and clearly identified the Russian SAM unit involved and the exact BUK launcher--interesting that they used the armored vehicle skirts of the convoy and identified the exact BUK launcher.

Origin of the Separatists’ Buk: A Bellingcat Investigation
Web - https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...investigation/ …
PDF - https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-conten...stigation1.pdf …

Who did what to whom? Eliot Higgins (@Brown_Moses ) digging into the #MH17 story. #verification #debunking #UGC
http://youtu.be/flCqN8_0cX4

New video of the #MH17 crash site from just after the crash, translation via @el_roosevelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpMBH8NmG4

Russian State Television Shares Fake Images of MH17 Being Attacked via @bellingcat
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2014...eing-attacked/ …

#MH17 investigators still awaiting #US,#Russia|n intelligence reports http://reut.rs/130O2Ml

This is an interesting standoff by both countries:

The US ISR assets definitely picked up the launch and identified the missile flare and definitely geo located the launch point---but to release the accuracy then allows Russia to fully understand the abilities of the satellites on the ISR side--that is why the US and the UNSC US ambassador always quote and use open source materials ie bellingcat

The Russians do not want to provide anything as it will then in fact indicate that it was their own BUK thus they will complain and complain about the investigation not being fair etc. but in the end provide absolutely nothing.

The Dutch will then fall back on the bellingcat and other open source materials to include the Ukrainian voice intercept just moments after the shot down and the mercenaries confirmed to be accurate but naturally it was not them.

Coupled with the fragments found in the aircraft and in the bodies of those killed as the BUK fragmentation is easy to ID. as the West has the warheads and technical manuals.

Will end the end point to Russian BUK fired by a mixture of mercenary and Russian personnel.

And naturally the Russian response--"it ain't us".

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I added photos to the MH17 portfolio on my website, work from the past 2 weeks following the MH17 Recovery Mission.

http://pierrecrom.nl/mh17#pic-24

[davidbfpo]

This Daily Beast article 'Ukraine Militias Warn of Anti-Kiev Coup:The men behind Ukraine’s nationalist militias are looking to replace the fumbling government in Kiev one way or another' actually has far more, hence my title:http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...kiev-coup.html

An example:

The state-owned Motor Sich engine factory in Zaporizhia, a southeastern city on the Dnieper River 140 miles from the separatist stronghold of Donetsk, has been the most flagrant exporter. Company executives make no bones about Sich’s exports to Russia of military helicopter engines. Victor Chuyko, the president of the Association of Aviation Engine-Builders, claims the sales are legal on the grounds that “Poroshenko’s decree bans only deliveries directly to the Russian defense ministry.

[mirhond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ymaq4m1zY

Alchevsk, Liganskaya oblast': People's revolutionary court in acton.

in short: one-timer rapist got avay with term in penal company, other serial one got lead poisoning. Really grave scene, Senatus bestia.

[OUTLAW 09]

Article goes a long way in explaining the current Russian anti Nazi campaign against the Ukraine.

Names Russian personnel and organizations behind the defamation campaign ie info war campaign pointed towards the West media.

well worth the read

http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.de....html?spref=tw

[mirhond]

Ten seconds with Google, and volia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54e4kj7OpbQ

[kaur]

mirhond, this DPR batallion СССР has nice gear. I wonder were they bought the stuff? From corner shop like Putin said/lied in the beginning of March? How do you like this За Сталину/For Stalin slogan?

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1924071.html

Stalin didn't have palaces, banks, oil and gas firms etc like those guys do. Oil prices over 100 $ Putin has managed to buy loyality of people. When people start ask questions? mirhond, what do you think?

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/arch...ia/?insrc=hpma

Those guys in mirhond's video have German surplus helmets. Maybe the helmets were painted befor shipping by some jokers?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6110518.stm