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    AP---think about the term "Russian humiliation" for a moment.

    Here are two further examples of Russian annexation moves which if one takes the "normal view that human beings act in normal fashions" goes completely against the view of "Russian humiliation" and towards Russian expansionism ie neo imperialism driven by ethnicity.

    1. In addition to the annexation of the tiny Yaya Island located in the desolate Laptev Sea------in the Artic and never Russian territory and never "threatened by NATO moving eastwards since 1991"

    2. Russia stated yesterday they are signing legal documents with the Georgian enclaves which are basically a half step away from total annexation and under Russian law lay the groundwork for total annexation---AND AP not a single peep from the west

    And that is what "Russian humiliation" or simply Russian expansionism at work?

    Oh--forgot -it was caused by NATO's eastward movements right?

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    AP---let us go back and revisit your concept of "rational thinking human behavior" for a moment.

    I think you might agree with me for a moment that any leader of a country that is "rational thinking" in the face of a "free falling economy" WOULD in fact do everything possible to 'save" his or here country.

    BUT what if he or she takes a completely different stance---meaning a military geopolitical victory takes precedence over virtually everything else.

    IS that leader "acting rationally or ill rationally"?

    As you can see the Russian economy is dangerously starting to repeat the free falling crash of 1998.

    #Russia Central bank trying to save the RUB from collapse, sold > $ 1 billion for the last one hour (!)
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    Oil slump leaves Russia even weaker than decaying Soviet Union | via @Telegraph http://fw.to/6tkC8lK

    OR AP does this signal that in fact Russia wants to annex the eastern Ukraine or what Putin called three times in Milan---New Russia.

    #BreakingReport Russian military experts are in #Donbas to help "DNR" and "LC" create a "unified military command" and structure

    #Ukraine positions came under fire 30times w/in 24hrs. Heavy fire n Debaltseve, #Donetsk, #Mariupol

    #Putin signed a law to compensate families of #Russia soldiers, who went missing on maneuvers
    Missing in maneuvers? Never happened to #NATO
    (By the way AP it is European bloggers who are stating and have been stating the MIAs number in the hundreds---and not a word from western media ---ever wonder why?)

    SO AP---just what maneuver did the Russian soldier sgo missing on? ---if a Russian maneuver then they were inside Russia and no one can find them in Russia?---come on AP "rational and or ill rational thinking/actions"?

    Appears to me Putin is not interested in a solution other than what he dictated in his DUMA speech six months ago.

    AND yet what does Putin do---threatens Georgia with further annexations, still sends Russian troops into the Ukraine as confirmed today by two respected UK Moscow journalists on the ground seeing them there and the Russian FM stating today Russia might not accept nor honor the Ukrainian elections from this weekend because the junta threw out the former President "illegally".

    #Russia has taken serious measures derail whatever it costs #Ukraine Upper Rada election under false flag / pretext.
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    Ukrainian intelligence finds large weapons cache in #Novoaidar to disrupt the elections on Sunday
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    Rational thinking leader and or ill rational thinking leader?

    AND yet you seem to not want to accept the term "altered state of reality" or some in the interrogation world would call it "cognitive dissonance" if you do not like altered state.
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    AP---"Russian humiliation or no humiliation" some others see Russia as much as a threat as I do and I went through the Cold War here and thought in 1991 it was going to be a thing of the past.

    George Soros: Russia poses existential threat to Europe
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