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    A Iraqi SWAT HQ in Ramadi before and after an IS attack. pic.twitter.com/gqIsnpxoVu

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    ...and IRGC's (not Iranian Army's) T-72s in Iraq, here.

    BTW, except for deploying at least one of its armoured battalions to Iraq, the IRGC recently donated - on direct order from Khamenei - 10 ex-Iraqi Su-22s to Syria too. These were partially overhauled in Iran, partially in Syria, and are now flown by SyAAF.

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    Wonder if the WH/NSC fully understands just what the Kerry comment is actually supporting--the belief that Khomeinism will die in 10 or less years is a figment of imagination:

    Published: 16/03/2015 03:12 PM

    “Throw off Arabism,” Iran
    news agency tells Iraq


    An op-ed from the semi-official Mehr news agency follows on the heals of Iranian officials' rhetoric on Tehran's expansionary role in the region.
    BEIRUT – One of Iran’s leading news agencies has called on the Iraqi people to “throw off Arabism,” in a vitriolic editorial calling for the war-torn country to move into Iran's orbit.

    “The time has come for the Iraqi people to say their final word. [They must] choose between false Arabism and true Islam, and brush the dust of Arab humiliation off their clothes,” the semi-official Mehr news agency wrote over the weekend.

    “The Iraqi people—the Iraqi parliament to be precise—must move towards unity with their true friends [Iran] and throw off the garments of false Arabism.”

    The news agency also argued that “there can be no doubt that Iranians and Iraqis share religious and historical bonds that connect the two peoples over history.”
    The controversial op-ed comes amid Tehran’s increasingly confident proclamations of its influence in the Middle East, after Iranian-backed Houthis took control of Yemen’s government in February while Iran has helped coordinate the Iraqi government’s new offensives against ISIS.

    Last week, one of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani’s advisors said that “all of the Middle East is Iranian,” while a top Revolutionary Guards officer touted that Iran was playing the leading military role to prop up the Syrian regime.

    The Mehr news agency editorial echoed these comments, saying that “Iranian commanders have rushed to save the Iraqi people” while “Arab generals are in the cabarets of Las Vegas not caring what happens in Iraq.”
    The op-ed also flattered Revolutionary Guards Qods Force chief Qassem Soleimani, who has been the subject of a media campaign as he visits the front lines near Tikrit, where Iraqi forces in the past two weeks have waged a battle to seize the city from ISIS.

    “A well-known Iranian general has [risked his own] life and gone to the most dangerous place in the world to put his combat experience at the service of the Iraqi army and the Popular Mobilization [forces] in Tikrit.”

    Mehr also called on the Iraqi leaders to adopt a political solution “close to the demographic and confessional reality in Iraq,” in reference to the Shiite majority in the country.

    After replacing Nouri al-Maliki as premier, Haidar al-Abadi has worked toward enlisting disaffected Sunni tribes to help the government in its fight to reclaim lost territory from ISIS.

    Instead of supporting such efforts, Mehr slammed the tribal culture in Iraq, implicitly calling it “racist.”

    “Iraq needs a new solution, far from ‘the kufiya, the agal and the dishdasha’, [traditional tribal Arab garments] that heads for a new culture,” it said.

    “All the sorrows of Iraq are caused by the presence of the Araban [desert Bedouin tribes] who stalk the Iraqi people and wish them no good.”
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    ...and this comes from the very same regime that's 'Arabizing' everything in Iran it only can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Wonder if the WH/NSC fully understands just what the Kerry comment is actually supporting--the belief that Khomeinism will die in 10 or less years is a figment of imagination:

    Published: 16/03/2015 03:12 PM

    “Throw off Arabism,” Iran
    news agency tells Iraq


    An op-ed from the semi-official Mehr news agency follows on the heals of Iranian officials' rhetoric on Tehran's expansionary role in the region.

    BEIRUT – One of Iran’s leading news agencies has called on the Iraqi people to “throw off Arabism,” in a vitriolic editorial calling for the war-torn country to move into Iran's orbit.

    “The time has come for the Iraqi people to say their final word. [They must] choose between false Arabism and true Islam, and brush the dust of Arab humiliation off their clothes,” the semi-official Mehr news agency wrote over the weekend.

    “The Iraqi people—the Iraqi parliament to be precise—must move towards unity with their true friends [Iran] and throw off the garments of false Arabism.”

    The news agency also argued that “there can be no doubt that Iranians and Iraqis share religious and historical bonds that connect the two peoples over history.”

    The controversial op-ed comes amid Tehran’s increasingly confident proclamations of its influence in the Middle East, after Iranian-backed Houthis took control of Yemen’s government in February while Iran has helped coordinate the Iraqi government’s new offensives against ISIS.

    Last week, one of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani’s advisors said that “all of the Middle East is Iranian,” while a top Revolutionary Guards officer touted that Iran was playing the leading military role to prop up the Syrian regime.

    The Mehr news agency editorial echoed these comments, saying that “Iranian commanders have rushed to save the Iraqi people” while “Arab generals are in the cabarets of Las Vegas not caring what happens in Iraq.”

    The op-ed also flattered Revolutionary Guards Qods Force chief Qassem Soleimani, who has been the subject of a media campaign as he visits the front lines near Tikrit, where Iraqi forces in the past two weeks have waged a battle to seize the city from ISIS.

    “A well-known Iranian general has [risked his own] life and gone to the most dangerous place in the world to put his combat experience at the service of the Iraqi army and the Popular Mobilization [forces] in Tikrit.”

    Mehr also called on the Iraqi leaders to adopt a political solution “close to the demographic and confessional reality in Iraq,” in reference to the Shiite majority in the country.

    After replacing Nouri al-Maliki as premier, Haidar al-Abadi has worked toward enlisting disaffected Sunni tribes to help the government in its fight to reclaim lost territory from ISIS.

    Instead of supporting such efforts, Mehr slammed the tribal culture in Iraq, implicitly calling it “racist.”

    “Iraq needs a new solution, far from ‘the kufiya, the agal and the dishdasha’, [traditional tribal Arab garments] that heads for a new culture,” it said.

    “All the sorrows of Iraq are caused by the presence of the Araban [desert Bedouin tribes] who stalk the Iraqi people and wish them no good.”
    It just keeps getting worse:

    Before #Iran began a nuke program they were fighting #Iraq just to survive. Today they OWN Lebanon, Yemen, Syria AND Iraq #WellPlayed

    Upcoming UN report confirms that ISF&militias conducted extrajudicial killings pic.twitter.com/XC6kai3MhS

    If the #Iraq army still looks as sectarian as it does in #Tikrit now I'm sure many #Mosul residents will stay and fight alongside #ISIS

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    ...which makes one wonder:

    - if 'simple, everyday people' can draw few, 'rather simple' conclusions about consequences of letting Iran conquer Iraq....

    Allowing Iran to Conquer Iraq Will NOT help defeat the Islamic State...

    - and the people in question can support their conclusions with a plethora of dependable evidence,

    - why to hell is it so hard to draw similar conclusions in the DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    ...which makes one wonder:

    - if 'simple, everyday people' can draw few, 'rather simple' conclusions about consequences of letting Iran conquer Iraq....

    Allowing Iran to Conquer Iraq Will NOT help defeat the Islamic State...

    - and the people in question can support their conclusions with a plethora of dependable evidence,

    - why to hell is it so hard to draw similar conclusions in the DC?
    Crowbat---an excellent question and one I keep on asking on say the Ukraine.

    DC issues a red line in the sand on the use of chemical weapons by Assad forces against civilians and then nothing...........except more talking THEN this occurs after a series of chlorine barrel bombs have been increasingly dropped in the last weeks--notice again silence out of DC......

    Then we will talk with Assad and THEN:

    Breaking: Hundreds of Suffocation Cases due To poisonous Gases reported in Sarmin #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovPKtOjOx7g

    I wonder which will get the most attention, ISIS using chlorine or Assad using chlorine, hmmmmm

    #Assad is attacking town of #Sarmin with chlorine gas
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujb9...e_gdata_player

    One wonders if there are any "adults" with a defined set of personal values anywhere in DC these days.

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    Guess we need Dayuhan to explain us the logic of this - in his usual, most illogical, and entirely-unrelated-to-reality, but 'truly American' fashion.

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