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    Default Those "Limeys" were not always bad or wrong?

    GI Zhou,

    That is quite a project! Be good to have a non-virtual SWC gathering too.

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    Yet, the British strategy and tactics in the Kenyan Uprising have now been largely discredited.
    Really 'largely discredited'. As I understand it the strategy was to deny the Mau Mau power, an expression of African nationalism and to give Kenya independence, which came in 1963, to acceptable Kenyans. I do not doubt the tactics used were savage and incidents like the Hola Camp damaged the legitimacy of the campaign in the UK. Enoch Powell, a Conservative MP, was a very loud critic.

    Britain’s Colonial and Foreign Offices were not well equipped to understand the nationalist movements following Woodrow Wilson’s comments about self-determination during the discussions on the break up of the Ottoman Empire.
    I expect the UK-based Colonial and Foreign Offices did know that nationalism in the colonies, notably India, was reinforced by Wilson's 'Fourteen Points' and there are ample records that Great Britain in the Imperial era long before 1918 knew British rule or control was not fully accepted. Personally I think the policy was to rule by containment, in the hope all would be well - along came WW2 that ended that assumption.

    The big difference in that Imperial era was that whilst policy could be set in London, that did not mean those in the field always followed it. In the one very small incident I researched, Rhodesian UDI in 1965, it was very clear the very limited British presence in the 'self-governing colony' neither knew what the whites felt nor the African nationalists.

    Post-war British COIN operations in Malaya and during the Confrontation are hailed as a model of success. Yet that was only the middle of a campaign that had its roots in 1920 against Chinese nationalist influence and operationally ran from 1925 to 1991 when Sarawak People's Guerrillas negotiated settlement with the Malaysian Government. A period of sixty-six years.
    Insurgency in Malaysia as a British dominated and directed COIN operation ended with Malaysia becoming independent in 1957. Sarawak and North Borneo joined Malaysia in 1963. 'The Confrontation' with Indonesia ended in 1966, when its goverment abruptly changed. I have yet to see an account that what the UK did then was not successful.
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    Success and failure are always relative to something. If the zeitgeist (whatever that means) is no longer in favor of direct colonization then a "successful" policy would be one that achieves a soft landing. Since the zeitgeist is (almost by definition) unknowable in full in real time, even the soft landing is not going to land where the first planners of soft landing imagined it was headed. Being able to land softly, wherever that may be (mildly in favor of the Sarawak People's Front if need be) is the best outcome in most cases.
    I will now take off my stoic-cynic-zenpundit hat... until next time

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