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    Notice how YouTube works together with Russian info warriors---video depicting a TOW hit on Assad/Iranian forces is pulled but those of a Russian airstrike on a school is not.......?

    This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on violence.

    footage The destruction of 23 mm cannon on Al-Eis hill in south #Aleppo with TOW by #FSA
    https://youtu.be/nIr0QS9EmIU
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian lies again....they have no combat control center inside Jordan.....?

    Russia declines to create anti-terrorism center in Egypt, says it's fine for now with its centers in Iraq & Jordan.
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/479406

    Jaish al Fath in south #Syria call to #IslamicState offshoot
    "Shuhada Yarmouk" to surrender- after leaders killed

    Jabhat al-Nusra claims to have killed pro-#ISIS Shuhada Yarmouk leader "Al-Khal" in southern #Syria
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    THIS is important.....
    "Al-Khal" is another Sednayya prisoner, who #Assad cynically released from detention at the revolution's outset.


    Aleppo Rebels take out picup with 23mm gun on Tel Eis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6wg6LPCaec
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...82813&z=14&m=b

    Damascus Rebels repelled #Assad-forces from former Marj As Sultan Helicopter Airbase
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE59CBFWrxg
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=33...65254&z=16&m=b

    Breaking: 4 Hezbollah fighters killed in Aleppo just moments ago

    Aleppo: 2 Iranian revolutionary guards killed: 1- Mohamed Reza Dahgtan 2- Ayman Khaza'ie

    Aleppo: Syrian Rebels destroy building full of Assad regime fighters
    http://fb.me/50Nn65VEz
    This is one of the most significant attacks on IS in a long while--eliminated IS in southern front area.

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    Russia'n warplanes SU-25 & SU-30SM bombing northern rural #Hama #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GE51ZCoeI

    BREAKING: 9 airstrikes on #ISIS stronghold of #Raqqa. Power outage across the whole city. Warplanes still flying in the sky -

    BREAKING: #US delivers more ammunition to the “Syrian Democratic Forces” (#SDF) in Northern #Syria - @AlArabiya_Eng

    MORE: Weapons supplies were delivered by land this time, not clear who transported them, as US troops did not

    SYRIA: A new #FSA battalion (Furat Jarablus) has joined the Syrian Democratic Forces. -

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-c...y-not-working/

    Former CIA official: Obama's ISIS strategy has failed

    "That is a level of sophisticated that we have not seen since the London bombings in 2005," he said. "What you're actually seeing now is something akin to state-sponsored terrorism in the West by ISIS."
    Meaning the Islamic State

    "I do think the question of whether President Assad needs to go or whether he is part of the solution here, we need to look at it again," Morell said. "Clearly he's part of the problem. But he may also be part of the solution."

    He suggested an agreement where Assad stays in power for another year and fights ISIS with the Syrian army and support from the U.S.-led coalition and Russia "may give us the best result."
    This may have been a realistic strategy early in the conflict, but Assad will simply push more people into the IS camp with his atrocities. I hear a lot of talk about a U.S., Russian, French coalition in cahoots with Assad (which implies Iran) to crush ISIL. To me that now seems like a short-sighted strategy that will undermine our national interests in the long run. Is there an assumption Assad and Russia will stop killing innocent Syrians that have nothing to do with ISIL?

    In response to the possibility of the terrorists using encrypted apps,

    "We need to have a public debate about this," Morell said. "We have, in a sense, had a public debate. That debate was defined by Edward Snowden, right, and the concern about privacy. I think we're now going to have another debate about that. It's going to be defined by what happened in Paris."
    There is little doubt in my mind Snowden has blood on his hands, and this is just the start of our adversaries being able to deny detection and perpetrate acts of terror before they can be disrupted due to this nave kid's desire to expose national defense systems at work. The little tart ran to China and Russia, bastions of privacy protection to release our secrets, which undermines his claims of being a patriot. If he receives anything short of life in prison or the death penalty we'll continue to see increasing leaks from the nave like Snowden, and the mentally disturbed like Chelsi.

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    Default @Bill Moore

    Fully agree. People seem to have given up on the "moderate" units in the FSyA, yet they represent the only viable alternative among Sunnis to the Islamic State. If the US makes the tragic decision to join a Russian/Shia coalition, they will be entering a religious war that will make Iraq's sectarian violence seem a skirmish in comparison.

    The ex-Ba'athists are the ones that need to be brought in from the cold, in order to provide Iraq's Sunnis with an alternative to Shia militias and IS.

    Snowden may well have been a Russian spy, and his choice of exile is interesting, especially given Russia's treatment of its own dissidents and whistleblowers.

    Manning threw a tantrum because he was not given a sex change and made and Admiral, yet wounded veterans suffer due to VA incompetence regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    In response to the possibility of the terrorists using encrypted apps,

    There is little doubt in my mind Snowden has blood on his hands, and this is just the start of our adversaries being able to deny detection and perpetrate acts of terror before they can be disrupted due to this nave kid's desire to expose national defense systems at work.
    My admittedly casual understanding is that the Daesh possess fairly solid electronic warfare capabilities. Seems a stretch to suggest that it was gifted to them by Snowden.

    I don't know ES personally or anything, but in every interview I have seen with him he comes across as an earnest libertarian. I honestly do not get the impression that he put his career and life on the line in order to tell terrorists they need to encrypt their data. It was something more along the lines of trying to get across to Americans that the U.S. Intelligence Community was, like the Stasi, monitoring its citizens for their own good, but with a vastly more powerful apparatus.
    If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. – Mark Twain (attributed)

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    I honestly do not get the impression that he put his career and life on the line in order to tell terrorists they need to encrypt their data.
    Yet he did just that.

    As for being a sincere libertarian, I'm not buying it. Libertarians don't run to China and Russia to fight for Libertarian values.

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    Reference Snowden--if you follow the former CI/NSA type @20committee he has been long convinced he was working for and with the SVR/FSB.

    Granted IS and formerly AQI has known about and has used in the past US OTS encryption software --it was the NSAs and GCHQs TTPs that were the critical missing piece for IS and for that Snowden does have blood on his hands.

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    Russia'n airstrikes hit Qal'at al Madiq & ancient ruins of Apamaia
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...02726&z=15&m=b

    Iraq War btw kurdish #Peshmerga & #Iran backed shiite militias near #Kirkuk Tuz Khurmatu
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYINIhPRTgw

    List of 66 Hezbollah shiite militants killed mostly in south #Aleppo btw Oct 1st & Nov 15th not counting 3 captured.

    Aleppo Rebels shelling "Amusement Park"-barrier
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZXUsnXD-ag
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...75789&z=17&m=b

    MORE Russian lies........ we did not bomb a hospital--what hospital etc....
    There is no hospital in al-Hadher" - Russia
    "We captured the hospital of al-Hadher" - Iran

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    The #Russia-#Iran'ian plan to undermine Saudi Arabia #KSA in #Syria
    https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commenta...saudi-in-syria

    Whether through war or diplomacy, Russia and Iran have been trying to finish off Ahrar al-Sham, a Saudi-sponsored Syrian rebel group that has shown resolve and resilience in fighting forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad. The group has threatened Assad’s survival and has so far proven to be an obstacle in the face of the Russo-Iranian military campaign aimed at reviving the Syrian dictatorship.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov have asked for a list of “US-approved” Syrian opposition militias, presumably to spare them Russian airstrikes. Iranian Foreign Minister Jawad Zarif has called on the Vienna Conference to identify terrorist groups in Syria.

    Since the outbreak of the Syrian war, Washington has placed two armed groups on its list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations: ISIS and the Al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra. As with its foreign policy in general, Washington’s position on Ahrar has been murky. By calling on Washington to spell out its position on Ahrar, Moscow and Tehran hope to build international consensus that the group is terrorist and should be defeated, as a prerequisite for a political solution in Syria.

    Russia and Iran have consistently tried to connect Syrian rebels to terrorism, believing such a designation gives Assad a green light to eliminate them brutally. Russia, Iran and Assad believe that painting groups as terrorist might also make them toxic to their foreign sponsors.

    Iran has also cited foreign sponsorship as proof of terrorism in Syrian rebel groups. Because Turkey’s government is Islamist, and because Qatar leans toward Islamists across the region, Iran has found it easy to shout Islamism, and therefore terrorism, against any Syrian opposition group with ties to either Turkey or Qatar.

    Saudi Arabia has been a harder nut to crack. Riyadh has been at the forefront of combating terrorism in the region since at least 9/11. Unlike Turks and Qataris, who sided with the Islamists in Egypt, Saudi Arabia opposed Cairo’s Islamist government. As an alternative, Iranian propaganda tried to connect ‘radical Saudi Muslim teachings’ and ISIS.

    But Iranian propaganda has failed. ISIS is an Iraqi organization whose leaders have inherited Saddam’s hatred of Saudi Arabia. And like Al-Qaeda, ISIS has launched attacks inside the kingdom.

    Russia, for its part, arranged for Assad’s security chief, Ali Mamlouk, to visit Saudi Arabia on the premise that if Riyadh wanted to undermine Iranian influence in Syria, Mamlouk could offer such guarantees. Instead of extending such an offer, Mamlouk tried to spin the story of his Saudi meetings in the media in a bid to undermine confidence between Syrian rebel groups and Saudi Arabia.

    When Russia and Iran saw it was impossible to outmaneuver the Saudis on Ahrar, Russia launched a direct military assault against the group, while Iranian propaganda went after the Saudi royal family, judging by speeches of Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah and the “Death to Al Saud” chants of his supporters.

    But Ahrar surprised Russia with its military performance. Meanwhile, the Saudis responded to the Vienna effort of designating Ahrar terrorist by doubling down on their military support of the Syrian group. The solution in Syria, implied Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir, would not be a political settlement. “Assad will leave, whether through politics or military action,” he told reporters.

    Saudi’s holding onto Syrian non-Islamist rebels like Ahrar prompted Iranians to threaten to withdraw from the Vienna meetings. Statements from unidentified senior Iranian officials in the Wall Street Journal threatened an Iranian boycott of Vienna and were especially offensive toward Saudi Arabia, echoing Nasrallah’s tone.

    Russia and Iran want to help Assad beat his opponents, terrorist or not. Saudi Arabia has skillfully identified and sponsored moderate Syrian rebels who threaten Assad’s survival. Aside from Iraqi ISIS, which controls Syrian territory mostly east of the Euphrates, the war in Syria is between Assad and Ahrar. Russia and Iran are trying to enlist the US, via Vienna, to vilify Ahrar as a move towards destroying it, undermining Saudi influence in Syria and finishing off the moderate Syrian opposition.

    Saudis and Americans are aware of the Russo-Iranian plan. President Obama, however, would not mind seeing Assad prevail, were it not for the Saudis, who have used their weight to neutralize America on Syria, a step that has proven adequate given Washington’s endlessly amateurish foreign policy.
    Ahrar al-Sham formally denies the authenticity of reports #Homs leader Abu Rateb praised #Paris attacks & Al-Qaeda:

    Labib’s comments were reproduced by Ahrar’s official account (L). Also condemnation by Ahrar’s political chief
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    Assad chemical barrel bombs in full violation of the UNSC and Russia stated there are no chemical weapons still in the hands of Assad.

    Eliot Higgins ‏@EliotHiggins
    Design of chemical barrel bombs used in Syria on 2015 according to the OPCW

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    Damascus Rebels destroyed T-72 tank at Marj as-Sultan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WND1ffK20O8

    Reports from triangle of death in southern #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwuU9q8etQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77OyaWhB2Xw
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33...40821&z=13&m=b

    Rebels target BMP of IRGC/Shiite militia in southern rural #Aleppo--TOW hit again-- destroyed two BMPs with one hit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udfal5xrwrA

    Syria #Aleppo Rebels target 57mm cannon with Kornet ATGM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW0MTcqHGnM

    Kurdish #YPG militia now strongest force in #Syria with ~80.000 fighters & able to rule all areas north of Euphrates river

    [B]Clashes around Tall Hadya & al-Eis south #Aleppo. Rebels blow BMP & kill several shiite Iranians militants trying to advance with RuAF CAS./B]

    FSA Victory Army blow another shiite militia dozer in Barnah village south #Aleppo with TOW
    http://youtu.be/B4ASDEMkJjw

    RuAF provide close air support to shiite Iranian militias near ICARDA #Aleppo countryside.
    http://youtu.be/eoV_gUoJa_4

    FSA destroy Iranian militia dozer and 23 mm in southern #Aleppo---TOW hits........
    https://youtu.be/R_ZUNlGJXAQ
    https://youtu.be/qSKkQKzJh1I

    Photos of what remained of #Russia missile used by #SAA to target refugee camp in #Latakia Nov 9
    pic.twitter.com/V4neGKGWC8
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    Even US/UK commenters are losing the plot with Assad and IS---we simply do not need more Syrian civilians deaths--actually we need the Russians to target IS not the FSA and the Syrian civil society.......

    Wow.
    @TheStudyofWar suggests adjusting rules of engagement to accept civilian casualties in anti-#ISIS strikes:
    https://shar.es/15BG3y

    We do not need to emulate both Assad and Russia when it comes to killing Syrians.

    We do not view them as a terrorist organisation"
    #Russia Deputy FM Bogdanov on #Hezbollah, speaking to Interfax
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    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...Name=worldNews

    Think about the Russian statement for a moment--based on this logic that would explain just WHY Russia is not bombing IS--in Russian eyes not a terrorist organization it would appear.......?
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    “It’s not just men fighting the war in Syria; it is women, too, and they feel forgotten.”
    http://gu.com/p/4e7pq/stw

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    Even MORE Russian RuAF lies............they never seem to get their stories correct?????

    Russia bombed olive oil business in Idlib last week, claimed was Nusra bomb making facility
    http://ruslanleviev.livejournal.com/45510.html
    pic.twitter.com/8PgbrazyyM

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    NOW even IS is following their Russian lead and lying.........

    ISIS claims #FrenchAirStrikes killed & wounded dozens of civilians in #Raqqa last night, illustrates claim w/ old pic of #RussianAirStrike.

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    MORE Putin platitudes on IS........

    Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant
    "look we are seeking to do more to focus on ISIL." Vladimir Putin, as quoted by David Cameron's staffers.

    If he is really serious about more "focus" on IS THEN why have since Friday all air strikes been either in support of the IRGC and Hezbollah attacking FSA and or on FSA positions---NOT a single recorded air strike anywhere in Syria on IS by the RuAf--why is that--and there is no intertwining of IS and Russian interests........???

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    RU's interest in contd Syria/IS conflict:
    1/softens West over Ukraine&sanctions
    2/higher oilprices
    3/strengthens extr.right&left EU friends


    Who is a terrorist? Putin should know. He sends 1,000s of them into eastern Ukraine to kill and spread his ideology

    The only difference between Islamic State and the DNR/LNR is that the West does not call them terrorists---WHY Russia supports them.

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    Just today the Russian FM called for the UN to protect historical sites in Syria and Iraq--THEN this.......typical Russian Orwellian doublespeak at work.

    Russia'n airstrikes hit Qal'at al Madiq & ancient ruins of Apamaia

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...02726&z=15&m=b

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    Come on DC say least something that makes sense...DC has been constantly criticized for having virtually no info war pushback concept.....many of us have been saying this for going on 18 months now........

    BRENNAN: “ISIS is making great use of YouTube & social media to attract people under the false banner of religion” - @CSIS


    What planet has Obama and his NSC been literally on for the last 18 months??

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