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    SaudiArabia invites 65 Syrian opposition figures to Riyadh ahead of peace talks http://tribune.com.pk/story/1001854/...f-peace-talks/

    FSA forces claim to have taken multiple points from #YPG near #Azaz in the last 2 days.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm2ISiN2iYo

    Russia'n airstrikes on 4 northern #Aleppo villages & grain silos -regained by rebels from Jaysh al-Thuwar/#SDF yd.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...33539&z=13&m=b

    Leaked video from killed afghan Shiite militia members from found in rural #Aleppo #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymEI-6id6O0

    Russia is attempting to cut FSA's road supplies w/air raids on Deir Jammal in Aleppo rif &t castillo road very important to #Aleppo #Syria

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    One perception of the situation north of #Aleppo.
    Without #Turkey's help, the rebel front would long have collapsed.


    YPG and #PYD accused of ‘war crimes’ in #Syria – Amnesty International
    http://www.euronews.com/2015/10/13/s...international/

    Footage
    Multiple #RussianAirstrikes around #Azaz today.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wPvSYmwas
    All, 10 km from #Turkey.

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    Turkish-backed #FSA brigade "liberates" Kashti‘ār from #YPG forces.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m99IVXuI5FI

    CIA-backed #FSA brigade seems to be serious about "anti aircraft missile system".

    VIDEO: #US-led coalition strikes destroy 283 #ISIS oil tankers
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/AN9moYkOyHY

    RuAF Su-34 w/ 2X KAB-500KR E/O guided, 2X OFZAB Frag/HE incendiary unguided bombs,2X R-73 & 2X R-27 AAM.
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    Report about hospitals in the Opposition-held #Aleppo.
    By Ahrar al-Sham media office. #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM1FwMQeNtQ

    Maj. Yaser Abulrahim (Faylaq Sham) with #FSA confirming full control of Kashtaar, Tanab, Inab & Mrash.
    Maj. Yaser also said that clashes in Maryamayn & Shawaghirah still ongoing between Rebels & #SDF (Jaysh Thuwar / #YPG). in North #Aleppo.

    Russia Is Killing Civilians, Not ISIS, in Syria
    http://time.com/4129222/russia-airst...sualties-isis/
    pic.twitter.com/e1LIWBr8AM

    Urgent
    #Ahrar_alSham storming #Humaimym airbase with grade rockets
    #Latakia #Syria Dec 1


    SCD trying to extinguish fire on #Khan_al_Asal Oil Refinery, due #Russia airstrikes, earlier
    #Aleppo #Syria Dec 1

    Rebels in Aleppo also defeated SDF in Kstar & captured it from them despite all the odds. Fighting ISIS/Assad/SDF
    http://en.eldorar.com/node/824
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    Russian AF air strikes another Syrian hospital---no difference to the genocidal Assad AF.

    MSF International ✔ @MSF
    Barrel bombing of MSF-supported hospital in Homs kills seven people.
    #Syria http://msf.me/1O01Wyp
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    You knew #Putin bluntly lied abt #Su24?! Here how he was caught by #OSINT & geolocation!
    http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.com.ee/...ian-su-24.html
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    BREAKING: OBAMA WARNS PUTIN TO STAY OUT OF THE SYRIAN WAR
    http://www.mediafax.ro/externe/barac...siria-14905310

    US warns Russia after its decision to equip jets flying over Syria with missiles
    http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-internat...mise-siria.htm

    Good article although in Russian......
    China, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan & Turkey build their silk road south of Russia. Putin's hostility costly to Russia.
    http://lenta.ru/news/2015/11/30/transkasp/
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    Finally MSM wakes up to the use of WP on civilian targets--basically a war crime.....

    Daily Mail: Is #Russia using deadly white phosphorus in #Syria?

    http://uatoday.tv/politics/daily-mai...ia-545556.html

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    For years, the Russian dinner table has told the story of #Russia’s foreign policy
    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/76326
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    Russia is finally freeing itself from the terrible Turkish yoke. Suddenly.
    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2015/12...wn-with-turkey
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    I will follow-up on our Turkey conversation shortly, but I wanted to ask you first what your thoughts are on the dreaded S-300-400-500 family of SAMs. How do they stack up against Western, especially US, systems? How much is real and how much is hype? Are they reliant on supporting systems that aren't there?

    Cheers

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    5T USDs later from the oil/gas profits the pot holes in some Russian "highways" could be used to hide trucks in.....

    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.de/...cted-with.html

    Tuesday, December 1, 2015

    ‘Russia’s Future Not Connected with Ukraine or Syria,’ Inozemtsev Says

    Paul Goble

    Staunton, December 1 – Russians have been so focused on events in Ukraine and now Syria that they have forgotten the most important thing: their future and that of their country is not connected with what is going on in those countries but what is taking place or not taking place in their own, according to Vladislav Inozemtsev.

    In a Snob.ru commentary, the Moscow economist says that eventually Russia will leave Syria and Ukraine “with or without Crimea and the Donbas” will continue its path to Europe. When that happens, he suggests, Russians will ask what they should have been focusing on in 2014 and 2015 (snob.ru/selected/entry/101468).

    “The future of Russia is not connected either with Ukraine or even more with Syria,” he argues. “having lost the status of a global power” because of the failure of the communist regime and having gained “a breathing space” because of high prices for oil, Russia could have used that time to figure out how it could develop when oil prices inevitably fell.

    Had Russians done so, had they been “oriented toward real and not false goals, the discussion would have had a completely different tone and theme,” Inozemtsev suggests. Instead, the Russian government has focused on foreign affairs and acted as if everything is fine at home.

    The Kremlin has even suggested that “everything is normal” despite the collapse of oil prices to 40 US dollars a barrel. But in doing so, the Moscow economist says, it has ignored that the price is likely to fall further, that the current cutbacks harm not only the current generation but future ones, and that its promised modernization program hasn’t happened.

    And addressing those problems, Inozemtsev argues, is far more important than “the fates of ‘the Russian world’ or the chances for Bashar Asad’s survival.”

    The standard of living in Russia is falling, although many still remember that it rose in the first decade of the 2000s and believe that spending on arms will be a solution. “However, history teaches that the memory of the Russian people is exceptionally short.” Twenty-five years ago, Russians took down the statue of Dzherzhinsky; now, they want to put it back.

    Thus, the successes of a decade ago will also be forgotten, especially if incomes continue to contract at the rate of 10 percent a year, and also will be forgotten the so-called “Putin consensus.” At the very least, it will not attract any new supporters from the population however the war on terror goes.

    And ever more frequently Russians will have occasion to recall what has often been the case in their past: when economic difficulties during periods of real or imagined foreign dangers lead to catastrophic social cataclysms.” That being the case, he says, Russians should not be so concerned about what is happening in Kyiv and Damascus. They should worry about what is happening at home.

    And there are so many problems: Will Russians be able to fly from Vladivostok to Moscw if Transaero is driven into bankruptcy? Will small businesses be able to survive and provide jobs if they are taxed excessively and oppressed by the government? Will pensioners put up with further cuts to their already miserable existences?

    In addition, how will Russians move about if the roads aren’t repaired? And “what prospects are opening (or more precisely closing) before the country’s middle class as a result of all the new prohibitions on travel and what threatens the tourism branch and international air carriers?”

    There are dozens of such questions, Inozemtsev says, and behind each of them “stand hundreds of enterprises and companies and touches the interests of hundreds of thousands of people.” But today, the Kremlin is ignoring them and hoping that others will ignore them as well because of their focus on Ukraine and Syria.

    Indeed, he argues, one can say that “the main goal of the authorities who have sparked foreign policy hysteria consists in distracting the attention of the people from the domestic agenda.” After all, for the authorities, it is “simpler and more effective” to struggle for “’the Russian world’” in Ukraine than to build at home and “more convenient” to bomb Syria than to find the murderers hiding out in Chechnya.

    Up to now, however, there is no indication that anything has changed or will change. Instead, the situation is deteriorating. There is less money for medical care, and “people are now dying from heart problems while in line at polyclinics,” an inexcusable situation that appears likely to get worse given that the Kremlin cares not about the people but only about itself.

    “The entire population (which it is difficult to call a people) is reflecting not about its own pipelines and roads: it is interested only in how much oil the Islamic State is delivering to Turkey from whom we are refusing to buy fruit,” Inozemtsev says.

    Over the next several weeks, Vladimir Putin will be questioned about some of these things, albeit in a very police way, Inozemtsev says. But if he does nothing to change the situation and there seems little reason to expect that, then these questions will be posed in “a much less polite form.”

    That will happen, the Moscow analyst says, “when the people (and already not the population) understands what it should have been thinking about five or ten years ago.”

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    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/01/pu...lsrAUw

    Opinion

    Putin Hiding Under A Czech Candle

    Turkey’s downing of a Russian fighter plane will test the mettle of NATO leaders: an overreaction by Russia could trigger member nation commitments to Turkey under Article V. But how will NATO members respond? Recent press articles have raised doubts about the leaders of some NATO member states, particularly the Czech Republic, in the face of Russian operations to undermine the alliance.

    Anne Applebaum, the Pulitzer Prize winning writer; and Kristofer Harrison, a former DoD and State Department official; wrote about officials from NATO-allied governments who amplify Putin’s voice. They specifically named Andrej Babis, the Czech Finance Minister; Milos Zeman, the Czech President; Robert Fico, the Slovak Prime Minister; and Viktor Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister. Andrej Babis, alone among the four in responding to Applebaum’s assertions, claimed he has no friends in Russia and is allied strongly with America. His denial is worthy of investigation.

    One indicator of friendship with Russia was manifest on November 3. It was reported that the Czech Export Guarantee Agency (EGAP), a subsidiary of Babis’ Ministry of Finance, had underwritten a record loan guarantee to PhosAgro, a Russian company that is co-owned by Putin’s close friend Vladimir Litvinenko. EGAP guaranteed the loan in spite of a track record of significant defaults — over a billion dollars — in Russia. This gesture was important enough to the Russian government that the Russian vice-prime minister came to the Czech Republic for the signing ceremony. Russia must truly appreciate the financial assistance by a Ministry of Finance subsidiary in times of financial sanctions imposed
    assistance by a Ministry of Finance subsidiary in times of financial sanctions imposed by the West. Friendly is as friendly does.

    In a more bizarre example of friendship, diluting the impact of the sanctions imposed on key Russians after the invasion of Ukraine and occupation of Crimea, it was also disclosed recently that a sanctions target and close friend of Putin, Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov, has a team of racing horses stabled in the Czech Republic, in which he maintains a close personal interest. When sanctions required those assets to be frozen, the Ministry of Finance decided not to sell the horses and put the funds in escrow, but are rather continuing to race the horses and keep them active, as if the sanctions were not in place.

    The Ministry of Finance, asked to explain, responded by email that, “It was taken to consideration that these assets can be devaluated just by restrictions on their ordinary activities, such as training, participation in competitions or in breeding. Given to the character of secured assets, high securing and managing costs can be assumed. Ministry of Finance has decided that within EU the ordinary activity of racing stable will not be restricted, but all the profits will be used only for managing and securing these assets. In the event that revenues exceed expenses, those would be secured in the Czech Republic.”

    In other words, the Ministry has decided to allow the animals to continue to race, and to use any profits to defray security and operating expenses. The result is that any utility derived by Kadyrov by watching his horses race may continue without interruption; if racing revenue exceeds the expenses of upkeep and security, the net income will be held in escrow. The Ministry ignored questions about the extent of any personal involvement by Finance Minister Babis in this politically sensitive decision, but it is safe to assume that Kadyrov appreciates this kindness from the Ministry. It also prompts a writer to wonder who shows up in the owner’s box at the races.

    Another aspect of Babis’ response to the Applebaum article was of interest. In response to her statement that his company, Agrofert, buys Russian gas, he made a specific point of asserting that he does not buy gas from Russia, but only from Germany. However, in 2007 Hospodarske Noviny reported that Agrofert was negotiating to change its gas supplier from a German company to VEMEX, the Czech subsidiary of Gazprom, the state-owned Russian firm. Babis is quoted as saying that Agrofert is the largest consumer and Vemex is the largest supplier of gas in the region. A perfect fit, according to Mr. Babis? I contacted both Vemex and Agrofert to ask about their commercial relationship, but received no response from either firm.

    The final bit of mystery for the Czechs in this affair is the speculation by Czech media about the involvement of the American Embassy. Commentators have gone to some length to suggest that he has the support of the American ambassador: he has been photographed with the ambassador at the annual party congress for ANO, Babis’ political party; Babis has referred to the ambassador’s visit to his country house, called The Stork’s Nest; and ANO credited the ambassador with arranging a high-profile trip for him to the U.S. earlier this year, with commentators saying it is part of a campaign by America “wooing” him. Repeated requests for comment from ANO went unanswered.

    Foreign Service sources in Washington tell me there is no way the Embassy would support a political figure so openly, and that the Czech public are misreading the facts, and are victims of propaganda. The integrity of the U.S. Foreign Service is well known: Embassies carefully avoid any kind of endorsement in domestic political activities.

    Perhaps there is a reason that my questions on these matters have gone unanswered by the Ministry of Finance, Agrofert, VEMEX and ANO. Perhaps there is more to the picture than meets the eye. There is an old adage in Czech that “the darkest place is always under the candle’s flame.” Is Putin sitting under the candle, using his friends right under our noses, to undermine our most important alliances? What will be the consequences for NATO capabilities in the face of escalating threats, of our inaction, especially if Russian influence on prosecutors and police in the Czech Republic could undermine the transatlantic defense industrial base? This is particularly alarming and requires further journalistic investigation to bring it to the attention of the public and the U.S. government.

    It’s time to move the candle around, and take a closer look at what is happening right in front of us.

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    Shayrat, the new Russian airbase in #Syria
    https://informnapalm.org/16312-rossy...u-bazu-v-syryy … by @InformNapalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I will follow-up on our Turkey conversation shortly, but I wanted to ask you first what your thoughts are on the dreaded S-300-400-500 family of SAMs. How do they stack up against Western, especially US, systems? How much is real and how much is hype? Are they reliant on supporting systems that aren't there?

    Cheers
    Sorry in Turkish......

    Turkey deployed Koral air defense systems at the border, neutralized S-400.
    http://www.sondakika.com/haber/haber...i-ilk-7922933/
    pic.twitter.com/gY3hxlgDVk

    There has been some chatter that the same system massively disrupted SAA comms doing a recent major battle....not much more was mentioned....

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    So it appears Putin was in fact lying..........

    Superb @BBCWorld analysis of the illicit trade in #oil produced in areas of #Syria controlled by ISIS
    http://tinyurl.com/ze3ba3a

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    What is interesting is how Putin is driving the Ukraine an Orthodox Church nation closer to Turkey a Muslim nation......Ukraine has offered to step in and replace any grain needed by Turkey and will take up the slack on fruits and vegetables........seems a common enemy bridges everything these days...

    Well so much for the effects of the Russian sanctions on Turkey.....

    Ukraine to see cheaper fruit, vegetables due to Russia-Turkey conflict, experts say
    http://uatoday.tv/news/ukraine-to-se...ts-545697.html
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    Disinformation review!learn how #russia is adjusting its narrative after downing of SU-24 and whom blames for it
    http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u...5&e=3f54674cc3 … …

    Activists reported 9 RuAF airstrikes targeted #FSA positions against #YPG & Jaish al-Thuwar militia NW #Aleppo. https://twitter.com/archicivilians/s...41957706788864

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    http://observer.com/2015/12/whats-ne...urkish-crisis/

    Opinion

    What’s Next in the Terrifying, Unraveling Russo-Turkish Crisis

    Sometimes political leaders do insanely stupid things, with horrific consequences for millions

    By John R. Schindler • 12/01/15 1:14pm

    The downing of a Russian Su-24 bomber jet on November 24 by a Turkish F-16 fighter on the Turkish-Syrian border, where the two air forces have been playing high-speed cat-and-mouse games for months, opened a new and dangerous phase in an international crisis that’s long been brewing on low-boil.

    Although President Recep Erdoğan’s Turkey and President Vladimir Putin’s Russia are ancestral foes, in recent years the countries had enjoyed a cordial relationship with substantial trade between them and significant alignments on many security issues, notwithstanding the former’s NATO membership going back to the early Cold War. As the Middle East has gone up in flames since the Arab Spring, a Russo-Turkish partnership might have gone a long way in preventing wider conflagration.

    Alas, any regional cooperation between Ankara and Moscow has broken up on Syrian rocks, with the two countries pursuing contrary goals in that sad country, which has experienced the torments of hell since its civil war began in spring 2011. While Mr. Putin has backed its proxy—the Assad dictatorship in Damascus—to the hilt, Mr. Erdoğan has quietly supported anti-Assad guerrilla groups with equal determination.

    Overt Russian military intervention in the Syrian conflict in late September placed Moscow and Ankara on a collision course, as was obvious to clear-eyed observers. For Turkey, exerting some control over neighboring Syria, particularly its war-torn north, is a vital national security interest, and Ankara made clear it did not appreciate Russian games there. Here, Mr. Putin’s customary bull-in-china-shop methods in international relations were destined to result in a clash.

    All that can be said for certain is that a Turkish Air Force F-16 shot down the Russian Air Force Su-24 a little over a week ago, killing the pilot and wounding the second crewman; another Russian serviceman was killed by Syrian rebels during search and rescue efforts. Ankara claims that the Russians briefly entered their airspace, something that Moscow vehemently denies. Similarly, Turkish assertions that they gave the wayward bomber multiple warnings have been dismissed as lies—after-the-fact excuses—by the Russian defense ministry.

    The Pentagon has affirmed the Turkish narrative, broadly speaking, yet it’s evident that the Obama administration is displeased with Ankara over the shoot-down. It’s not normal for NATO fighters to open fire out of the blue at intruding Russian military aircraft, something which has been happening with mounting frequency of late. Instead, NATO fighters are supposed to intercept the intruder, making mutual visual sightings, at which point the Russians usually head the other way. None of that seems to have happened on November 24.

    It’s not every day you get to see leaders of major countries with large militaries acting like petulant teenagers on the world stage.

    In fairness to the Turks, the Russian Air Force had been playing dangerous games in that border region for weeks leading up to the incident, bombing the locals, who are backed by Ankara, and goading the Turks into action. In addition, the Su-24 is frequently used for electronic warfare missions, so it cannot be ruled out that the Russians were jamming or spoofing frequencies in the area, causing confusion on the Turkish side—a deadly confusion, as it turned out.

    This is where a dispassionate international investigation would help to defuse tensions, but it’s unlikely either side will support that. As with the shoot-down of Malaysian Airlines 17 over eastern Ukraine in July 2014, almost certainly by Russian-controlled forces, the Kremlin has responded to this incident with barrages of propaganda, some plausible, some downright absurd.

    Some of this has come directly from Mr. Putin himself, who publicly accused Mr. Erdoğan of supporting the Islamic State, the notorious ISIS, including personal profiteering off the illegal sale of ISIS oil through Turkey. Adding fuel to the fire, Moscow sources have asserted that the shoot-down, which was “really” done to protect the “secret” of illicit ISIS oil shipments through Turkey, was done with the personal approval of President Obama. This is more of the noxious Kremlin agitprop that this White House bizarrely has chosen to do nothing to counter, as I recently explained.

    Inconveniently for Ankara, at least some of Putin’s accusations are true. Although only Kremlin Trolls believe Mr. Obama had anything to do with the shoot-down, clandestine Turkish support for ISIS in the Syrian war isn’t a figment of Moscow’s imagination. Reports of oil profiteering in Ankara, including from ISIS, have circulated widely among Western intelligence agencies in recent years, while Mr. Erdoğan’s personal corruption is well known.

    However, Russian accusations against Turkey ultimately fall flat, not least because Western intelligence has also reported about Russian profiteering from illegal ISIS oil sales, while questionable Kremlin spy games with various jihadists over the years, including Al-Qa’ida, are a matter of record. While Mr. Putin’s inflammatory accusations are not wholly fabricated, his own regime has done much the same.

    Ankara has reacted to all this in an equally juvenile fashion. Mr. Putin’s allegations of profiteering have resulted in Mr. Erdoğan stating he will resign if the ISIS oil story proves true, while demanding that Mr. Putin resign if not. It’s not every day you get to see the leaders of major countries with large militaries acting like petulant teenagers on the world stage.

    Neither country shows any desire to step back from confrontation, which ought to alarm everyone.

    Russia and Ankara have shifted more military forces to the Syrian tinderbox—the former has moved in cutting-edge S-400 air defense missiles while the latter has deployed brigade’s worth of tanks to the border—which does nothing to stifle the crisis. Moscow’s aggressive trade sanctions against Turkey over the shoot-down will cause pain to both countries, while demonstrating that this incident will not be allowed to go away by the Kremlin.

    Mr. Erdoğan’s suggestion of a meeting between the leaders to resolve the crisis was rudely dismissed by Moscow, leading to the Turkish prime minister stating his country will never apologize for defending their sovereignty. At the moment, neither country shows any desire to step back from confrontation, which ought to alarm everyone.

    No small part of this mess has been caused by the essential similarities of both leaders. Mr. Putin and Mr. Erdoğan are charismatic strongmen with deep nationalist credentials. They have successfully employed faith mixed with chauvinism to handsome political effect, including nostalgia for lost imperial glory that rankles and scares their neighbors. They are popular with many citizens, who credit them with big economic advances among average people. Their political foes have fled the country in fear, while dissenting journalists and activists get arrested or killed in “mysterious,” never-solved crimes. Above all, they have used quasi-democratic ends to establish very un-democratic regimes, personally profiting in the process. Neither man has any history of backing down in the hour of crisis.

    If all this sounds alarming, it should. It ought to be noted that neither Mr. Putin nor Mr. Erdoğan has crossed the point of no return yet: for the former, that would be cutting off Turkey’s natural gas shipments as winter sets in, while for the latter the shutting of the Bophorus to Russian ships, as it is permitted under the Montreux Convention of 1936, would have a similar effect, i.e. tantamount to a declaration of war. However, the lack of any signs of crisis de-escalation yet ought to raise concerns.

    Moscow must understand it cannot bully a NATO member without consequences.

    In Mr. Erdoğan, Mr. Putin has encountered a foe whose congenital response to the Kremlin strongman’s usual foreign policy playbook of tantrums and threats will be pushback rather than backing down. This matters because Turkey is a key member of NATO and it possesses a large and competent military—though it lacks the several thousand nuclear weapons Mr. Putin controls. Alarming signs are not difficult to detect. Demands in Moscow that Turkey return Hagia Sophia to the Orthodox Church, which fell to the Ottomans in 1453 when Constantinople—now Istanbul—at last was taken by the Turks after centuries of effort, are sure to inflame passions among history-minded Turks of an Islamist bent like Mr. Erdoğan.

    Falling back on militant faith and historical grievance in a crisis is seldom an encouraging sign, and NATO needs to make it abundantly clear to Ankara that Article 5, the Alliance’s collective defense clause, does not apply if Turkey goads Russia into an avoidable war. That said, Moscow must understand that it cannot bully a NATO member without consequences either.

    Continued.....

    We can hope that Mr. Putin and Mr. Erdoğan, understanding what war—especially possible nuclear war—would mean, are more cautious than the leaders of 1914 were. At this hour, Mr. Obama is attempting to mediate this crisis before it gets out of hand, urging Turkey to step back a bit, and we should all wish him well, although there is reason to doubt Ankara takes Mr. Obama very seriously, given his dismal track record in the region. Whether reason prevails over passion in this hazardous misunderstanding between Russia and Turkey, who have waged numerous wars against each other over the centuries, remains to be seen.

    Continued.......

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    FSA retake the silos in northern #Aleppo from #SDF/#YPG
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ljoKPKbzw
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...93756&z=17&m=b

    Dead Shiite forces- tried to invade Humaira village in southern rural #Aleppo

    MAP: Fighting in NW #Syria between SDF and other rebel groups. -
    MORE INFO: http://www.conflict-news.com/syrian-...lamist-rebels/

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    http://www.aspeninstitute.cz/en/arti...an-propaganda/

    Four Types of Russian Propaganda

    Andrew Wilson

    There are at least four types of Russian propaganda, each with different modus operandi in a strategically diverse environment.

    Russia’s propaganda operation is now so vast that it is diversifying. Its institutional channels have spread from RT TV to Sputnik multi-media, to multi-lingual YouTube channels, and through the capillaries of social media. Propaganda is carefully differentiated by national (UK, US) and language (Arabic, Francophone) audiences; the message and the tone seem infinitely variable. This essay, however, argues that there are at least four types of Russian propaganda, each with different modus operandi in a strategically diverse environment.

    1. The West’s Attention Deficit Disorder: Propaganda as Confusion

    There are many ways of measuring Russia’s propaganda effort. There is no doubt that it is well-funded. RT claimed its 2014 budget was 13.85 billion rubles or 225 million dollars; total official Kremlin spending on mass media was 72.1 billion rubles or 1.1 billion dollars. The true amount spent will likely be in the billions.

    There is less agreement on the size of the audience. Publicly-cited data is no doubt inflated by the Soviet tendency to over-claim in order to increase said levels of funding, plus the tendency to cite availability rather than actual audience, and because social media data tends to be only “likes” and “followers.” According to Maria Snegova, “RT’s official Twitter account has 815,000 followers, compared to 8 million followers of BBC World News and the 14.9 million CNN’s followers… RT has around 2.2 million fans on Facebook, compared to the 8.7 million and 16 million fans of BBC World News and CNN.”

    TV figures roam widely, from RT’s claim to reach a potential audience of between 600 million and 700 million to the assertion that it only has 0.1% of the European audience.

    The picture on YouTube is also mixed. According to Orttung et al., as of early 2015 “the RT flagship channel has a total of 1,471,491 subscribers,” and in one month “garnered 10,492,598 views,” but it was unclear how many “viewers [we]re coming for the helicopter golf,” rather than “staying for the Ukraine message.”

    Judging the overall effect of Russian propaganda is even more difficult. The well-known analysis of Peter Pomerantsev and Michael Weiss concentrates on short-term effects. They claim that Russian propaganda is self-consciously post-modern: its purpose is not to convince or convert, but to confuse—to spread enough versions of reality to leave the target audience flailing in moral and even factual relativity, resigned to the unknowability of the world, and unable to find the cognitive basis for policy action.

    Maria Snegova places contemporary Russian propaganda within the older Soviet tradition of the ‘4D’ approach: dismiss, distort, distract, and dismay. Moreover, she argues that obfuscation only works in the short-term, and undermines credibility in the long-term. The scatter-gun approach prevents coalescence around an alternative narrative. Snegova even argues that “the most successful period of RT has likely passed. Its audience has drastically shrunk following the Ukrainian crisis and unfavorable view of Russia spreading around the world.”

    Both points of view are right, of course. But one might add that the key effect is in the medium term, although the medium term is very short indeed. The West’s first point of vulnerability is indeed its immediate judgment (or lack of judgment) of events. Its second point of vulnerability is Attention Deficit Disorder. In modern news cycles there is little time to actually think before the cycle moves on. For the mass audience at least, Russian propaganda only has to work until then.

    2. Nudge Propaganda

    Russian propaganda can still have a long- term effect, if it can affect and strengthen opinions which already exist. The second type of Russian propaganda is less about creating confusion and is more about “nudge effects.” It works by finding parties, politicians, and points-of-view that are already sure of their world-view rather than confused, and giving them a nudge—so long as these views are usefully anti-systemic.

    For this type of Russian propaganda there is no such thing as strange bedfellows. Left or right, nationalist or separatist, jihadist or Islamophobic— all have featured on RT. The breadth of RT’s claimed audience is partly due to this superficial Catholicism—all are welcome, and all are welcome to talk about themselves and their pet causes. Therefore by definition there is no central narrative. Russian propaganda concentrates on supporting tropes, taking advantage of the world Raphaël Glucksmann describes in his 2015 book Génération gueule de bois [Generation Hangover]: a West that grew used to a world without existential opponents after 1989, where people protest under old slogans without new thinking, and make strange alliances and metamorphoses. Though, anti-Americanism writ large is a guiding theme for many of the other tropes: the decline of Europe, the rise of other powers, the crisis of global capitalism, and the re-definition of liberal interventionism and misguided democracy-promotion as the Empire of Chaos, to quote the 2014 book by the RT favorite Pepe Escobar.

    3. Propaganda at Home: Mobilizing the Putin Majority

    Russia’s propaganda is Janus-faced; though a metaphor closer to home might be the double-headed Russian eagle. If the point of pluralistic propaganda abroad is to nudge or confuse, domestic propaganda is monopolistic. Its point is to create and maintain the super-majorities of Putin support that are the lodestone of the current Russian political system. A system without real ideology in a country as large as Russia can easily fall victim to bureaucratic and local interests. The famed “administrative vertical” is a myth. Thus Putin’s 89% rating is not just a sign of him heading a popularity contest; it is a tool to ensure that the actions of the otherwise disparate parts of the political system are scripted by that virtual unanimity. And it also means that 89% are signaling their loyalty to the system by formally acquiescing in its narrative (like Václav Havel’s greengrocer placing a Communist slogan in his window).

    The Levada Centre has some quite extraordinary data showing the Russian equivalent of Orwell’s Two Minutes’ Hate—the rise and fall of negative attitudes towards Ukraine, Georgia, and the USA. In all cases, with a time-lag, they closely track the efforts of the Russian mass media. Negative attitudes towards “fraternal” Ukraine, for example, barely existed before being inflamed during various crises that predated the EuroMaidan—the Orange Revolution, the gas disputes of 2006 and 2009—before really taking off in 2014. Now they have bottomed out, with the Russian mass media switching its attention to Syria. Negative attitudes towards Russia in Ukraine, on the other hand, seemed to have grown for the long-term.

    The way the data changes so predictably suggests that such attitudinal changes are in large part ritualistic and may not go deep. As in 1984, venom can be easily targeted and turned. However, Russia is not a totalitarian state. There are corrective mechanisms. Sergey Aleksashenko describes one as “the opportunity to ‘prove harmony by algebra’” (to borrow a line from Pushkin’s “Mozart and Salieri”). Once Russians “compare the stream of official information to surrounding realities and their own life experience, then it turns out that the effectiveness of state propaganda sharply drops.”

    There is a much more radical corrective mechanism—the Emperor’s Clothes moment for the Bolotnaya protestors in 2011, when they mocked the naked Putin, the man behind the message, the man suddenly without a message, as just “a thief.” This sudden éclaircissement could also be called the Mourinho Effect, after one of Europe’s most successful football managers, currently with Chelsea, ironically owned by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. José Mourinho has copied an old trick: building a sense of team spirit, of us-against-the-world, by picking fights with everybody—other clubs, other managers, referees, the football authorities. This might work for a year or two; but most of Mourinho’s enemies are imaginary. His natural life-span at any given club is two to three years; once the effect wears off and the trick becomes obvious, even his own players may get embarrassed by higher and higher doses of artificial drama.

    The political equivalent for Russia would be the moment when the domestic audience gets tired by, alienated by, or even sees through, the simplicities of this year’s propaganda show. This is where the EU and USA should concentrate their anti-propaganda efforts—correcting the Russian propaganda view of the West is fine in theory, but risks feeding the idea that this is all about hostile external powers. The aim should be to talk to the Russian audience in its own language about its own interests, and tell them their leaders are selling them short.

    But the danger of some sudden éclaircissement is also the main reason for fearing that the Kremlin needs not just new stories and repeat doses of propaganda, but higher and higher doses to overcome the potential alienation effect. Particularly because the other obvious danger is that reality will bite back; and nothing could illustrate this better than the venture into Syria. Unless the strategy is to invite reality to bite back, and heighten the sense of Russia- under-siege.

    Continued........

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    Turkey’s PM Davutoglu said this today: We can burn dried cow dung (as fuel) if needed instead of Russia gas and defend our borders

    BREAKING: Russia suspends Turkish Stream talks with Ankara, - media
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