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    Russia´s oil rants about #Turkey are a bit odd given the fact most #IS oil is sold inside regime held #Syria.

    So will the Russian MoD explain this tidbit of information they themselves revealed...........??????

    According to this map IS oil gets into Turkey through SAA held Qamishli BCP...

    The other main route into Turkey is supposedly Afrin which has no border crossings, it's really a "bad" map

    How are they getting the oil through Kurdish lines?

    They probably aren't, south Hasakah is a volatile frontline at this moment, this is just Russian propaganda

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    Breaking: New #ISIS vid shows #Russian ISIS fighter behead a #Russian "agent";1st #ISIS vid of Russian beheading pic.twitter.com/g63YSLlFDT

    New Isis video apparently circulating showing beheading of “FSB agent from Chechnya”.

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    There is an interesting t........t for tat going on.....the anti Assad groups are being supported by Turkey, the KSA and the other Sunni Front States who are demanding that Assad immediately leave.

    Assad is being supported by Russia and Iran who want to keep Assad in place for at least 18 months.

    Russia is both verbally and physically attacking Turkey......now this from the
    German BND (their CIA) BUT released via the UK not from a major German media outlet.....

    The BND released a number of proRussian statements early into the invasion of the Ukraine which proved to be really bad disinformation but never retracted them. Social media open source analysis disproved their statements.

    Saudi Arabia 'destabilising Arab world', German intelligence warns http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nce-warns.htmlunusual & blunt BND assessment of Western ally

    WHAT is interesting is that they never lost a word on Iranian terrorism NOR the fact that a large number of Syrian and Iraqi Shia militia fighters have made their way to Germany as "refugees".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    There is an interesting t........t for tat going on.....the anti Assad groups are being supported by Turkey, the KSA and the other Sunni Front States who are demanding that Assad immediately leave.

    Assad is being supported by Russia and Iran who want to keep Assad in place for at least 18 months.

    Russia is both verbally and physically attacking Turkey......now this from the
    German BND (their CIA) BUT released via the UK not from a major German media outlet.....

    The BND released a number of proRussian statements early into the invasion of the Ukraine which proved to be really bad disinformation but never retracted them. Social media open source analysis disproved their statements.

    Saudi Arabia 'destabilising Arab world', German intelligence warns http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nce-warns.htmlunusual & blunt BND assessment of Western ally

    WHAT is interesting is that they never lost a word on Iranian terrorism NOR the fact that a large number of Syrian and Iraqi Shia militia fighters have made their way to Germany as "refugees".
    And Die Welt joins the Russian MoD chorus to smear Turkey without raising any doubt about Russian credibility https://twitter.com/welt/status/672102589270462464

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    Morbidity of Western politicians is reaching levels beyond amazing. Indeed, for me statements of farths like that chairman or German MOD van der Leyen are outright shocking.

    These people can reach back upon some of best intel services in history of human kind... are they all so clueless about what is going on in Syria?

    If not, they must be so incredibly arrogant, that their indifference towards all the massacres of Syrians instigated by Assad's sadists and killers of the Russian Air Force is sickening.

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    Appears that the Russian MoD oil briefing had some rather large holes in it.....


    Russia'n lie propaganda shows a gas plant -not an oil refinerie in #Syria
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...40.321112&z=16

    @mod_russia most likely pics of Kurdish oil trucks transporting oil from Rumeilan refinery.

    MORE Russian MoD blatant lies
    Минобороны России Verified account 
    ‏@mod_russia #SYRIA Airstrike against oil refinery near Khafsa Kabir

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKbA_g-4zEE

    When @markito0171 sees that's waste water treatment facility, not an oil refinery why doesn't @mod_russia?


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    MORE Russian infantry fighting in the forward areas will equal more loses like the 14 mentioned yesterday.....
    proAssad commenter
    SAA Reporter ‏@Syria_Protector
    #Syrian and #Russian infantry soldiers at the perimeter of #Palmyra #Tadmor

    pic.twitter.com/aAhywe0mXX

    The Interpreter @Interpreter_Mag
    5 Myths: Russia’s False ISIS Narrative In Syria

    http://bit.ly/1NpuT6f
    pic.twitter.com/oODlNwUjzf

    It's not the first time ISIS is seen with (new) Russian uniforms.
    How did they get those? Just think about it...

    https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/672158826590838784

    New #ISIS video shows a #Russia|n ISIS fighter (wearing #GRU Spetsnaz uniform) beheading a Chechen "FSB agent"
    pic.twitter.com/EtiXj8kFha

    Russia'n airstrikes on grain silos in #Syria - not oil reservoirs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0WhFUJy_no
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkvXO-qSw0s
    pic.twitter.com/gkLR9Icn29
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    Russia seems to bomb many 'oil refinery lookalikes'. But why not checking video material at least? Laziness?
    https://twitter.com/markito0171/stat...73890051903489

    Turkish-backed #FSA unit fights #ISIS in #Jarez(!) after advances under #RussianAirstrikes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cil8p9ryC_s
    pic.twitter.com/xd59ddg5Ts

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    I consider myself an 'air warfare analyst', and as such do not have a particularly high opinion of SAMs in general - at least not before they prove as 'effective beyond doubt, in combat'.

    Namely, my experience from studying various high-tech air wars in the Middle East is: there are giant differences between 'routine, peace-time ops' and 'combat ops'. And also: the more famed some SAM is, the less effective it turns out in ops.

    Let me just observe here: Soviet (at earlier times) and nowadays Russian SAMs have been famed beyond anything acceptable. They were often declared for true 'wonder weapons' even by various Western observers (not only by Russians). A closer study of systems in question - particularly such like SA-6 of the 1973 fame - have revealed only a mass of weak spots.

    In comparison, next to nothing is known about SAMs deployed by various types of USN's warships: the little that is known about these is that they proved murderous already during the Vietnam War. Similarly, and generally, very little is known about effectiveness of MIM-23B I-HAWK SAMs in Iranian and Israeli service... Similarly, the SA-3 is often entirely ignored, although in ops it actually proved more effective than SA-6...

    Anyway... the S-400 is probably comparable to the US-made PAC-2 (aka MIM-104C) in its overall capability. Even so, and whether Russian or Western, SAMs have extensive limitations. Foremost, they are inflexible: even mobile systems like S-400 are lacking manoeuvreability of combat aircraft. This means that while, sure, they can deny the use of airspace within a limited area, they are also easily 'outmanoeuvred' (usually 'outflanked').

    No matter the advertising about 'over-the-horizon-capability' by their manufacturers, they suffer from ground clutter - especially when positioned low at the sea coast, and even more so if having a 'wall' of 2,000-metres high mountains right in front of their face, and then on two sides (like this is the case with that Russian S-400 site in Istamo now). In long-range ops, they are vulnerable from all sorts of negative influence by atmospheric conditions (especially if the sky is humid) etc.

    Finally, their ops are much more susceptible to mistakes than those of combat aircraft: if necessary (always depending on ROEs, of course), their operators can't get up into the air and do the VID. They can easily misinterpret IFF-transmissions (see what happened to the crew of USS Vinncennes in 1988) etc.

    I would say: if the operators of that Russian S-400 site now deployed at Istamo haven't got some damn good and extremely realistic training (and I doubt they did), under current circumstances the system is more likely to prove a liability than any kind of safety. In worst case, it is very likely to cause a major tragedy, big international incident, and add shame to Russian behaviour: keep in mind that Adana remains a tourist centre, even without Russians, just for example, and that up to 50 airliners are landing there during the summer season...

    Bottom line: it's a grandiose (but dumb too) PR-coup to declare in the public this S-400 would now 'guarantee safety' of Russian aircraft underway over northern Syria. But, it's actually a mistake to expect that it could provide anything like at least near-decent coverage of the airspace over northern Syria. Either the VKS aircraft can protect themselves (and their crews can learn to navigate), or they cannot: SAMs are not going to help them.
    Outstanding. Puts things in context, like Israeli and US jamming capabilities. The only 2 countries who critique every military operation they do and live in terror of surprise attack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Morbidity of Western politicians is reaching levels beyond amazing. Indeed, for me statements of farths like that chairman or German MOD van der Leyen are outright shocking.

    These people can reach back upon some of best intel services in history of human kind... are they all so clueless about what is going on in Syria?

    If not, they must be so incredibly arrogant, that their indifference towards all the massacres of Syrians instigated by Assad's sadists and killers of the Russian Air Force is sickening.
    You know why that is, right? Why von der Leyen is so forward looking about making things right with Russia?

    Even after German depravities in occupied Poland, the government and Der Spiegel still tolerates Volksdeutsche wanting their houses in Western Poland back. German scholars dig up dirty on "strategic bombing", or US or British rapes in postwar Germany. Why? Because the answer is silence or a few angry tweets.

    Russia is the abusive ex-husband Germany hasn't come to terms with. Despite the restraining order she still is in business with him, and thinks he's "misunderstood...he's trying to change". If Germany complains about Russian rapes, well, the gas supplies get spotty and Iskanders are deployed to Kaliningrad.

    The US is the new evil empire and warmonger, but we'll slide Israel some free SSBNs under the table...

    Yes, Germany, the bedrock of NATO...

    Rant over

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    Report: #Iran deploy 2 dozen fighter jets on Tiyas Airbase (T4) btw #Homs & desert city of #Palmyra

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    Hama Defection of soldier near Kafr Nabudah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx8I0OKkuEo

    IslamicState try to storm #FSA hold Baraghidah village in northern #Aleppo near #Turkey border http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36...13783&z=14&m=b

    Hama Lots of dead #Assad-forces -tried to advance from Hakoura to
    Al-Qahira in Ghab plain

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...50584&z=14&m=b

    FSA Southern Front announces the start of the offensive to liberate Jadia & tank battalion in #Daraa

    Rebels launch battle for control of Judayyah village & nearby artillery base in northern #Daraa province
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=33...12919&z=14&m=b
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    BREAKING: Erdogan allegedly claims to have evidence that Russia is involved with the #ISIS oil trade. - @MiddleEastEye

    This will be interesting as the US has already just sanctioned a number of Russians and several Russian companies for dealing in Iraqi/Syria stolen oil.

    So just what does he have--Russian media has not replied yet.

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    I know the Russian MoD has an ego problem when they compare themselves to the US military....but really---just what the heck are they doing embarrassing themselves this badly----in the info warfare they assume they are the best BUT lately social media is shredding them to pieces.

    They keep releasing bombing videos of attacks on IS oil facilities and yet social media just keeps on geo tagging them as actual attacks on critical civilian food and infrastructure.

    If I personally had a voice inside the Russian MoD I would tell them to finally correctly ID the videos and or simply stop releasing them all together but then the home front might ask the core question--Why??---it is now just plain embarrassing.

    If this is the best the Russian MoD imagery analysts can do--then they have some serious problems...

    Syria | New @mod_russia vid shows #RuAF airstrike on alleged IS oil storage near Tuwayzan.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPfPNwhB7Ec

    Russia'n airstrikes on cotton depot near grain storage #Syria

    Another proof that #Russia attack the food production in #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3eDynXdh8Y
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...07974&z=17&m=b

    Russia'n airstrikes on grain silos in #Syria - not oil reservoirs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0WhFUJy_no
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkvXO-qSw0s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp9-7ncYcK8

    Russia'n lie propaganda shows a gas plant -not an oil refinerie in #Syria
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...40.321112&z=16

    MORE Russian air strikes on grain storage.......
    RuAF airstrike on grain silos geolocated near Surman, Idlib
    http://wikimapia.org/#lat=35.597726&...64377&z=17&m=b
    https://youtu.be/ol4xMGgAbKE

    Probably called at the next Russian MoD briefing--serious attack on IS oil production and storage---we are winning a great victory?????
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    Latakia Cruise missile impact reported from Kafrinjah area
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...16173&z=14&m=b

    MLRS shelling at Ghab plain
    http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2015/3...-at-ghab-plain

    Footage
    Syrian rebels regain control of #Jarez despite all #ISIS / #Russian efforts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8_S_ShDA1s

    Another ENG #MustWatch on #RussianAirstrikes on #Aleppo city by @RamiJarrah.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-S4qe8eD0

    GRAPHIC
    BreakingFootage
    #RussianAirstrikes hit children / civ in #Anadan, N of #Aleppo, tonight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dybXOH1ZbEs
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    ANOTHER Russian air strike on a Turkish aid convoy BUT demand that the Ukraine cannot stop their own "aid" convoys into eastern Ukraine which usually carry military supplies not "actual humanitarian aid".

    Footage
    A truck convoy on fire after heavy #RussianAirstrikes near #Azaz tonight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT8mcINRyIs

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    Russia is now officially fueling the Sunni Shia conflict in a far larger way than the Obama WH seems capable of understanding at this time and space in their current lack luster FP.

    Iranian backed Houthi forces in Yemen receive weapons from Russia.
    Russia is fuelling conflicts.
    http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/New...s-for-missiles
    via @AEJKhalil

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    Russian MoD lies through its teeth, but still its accusations vs Erdogan are republished unchallenged by most of the German press!

    ⊠ Not oil storage, — a grain silo
    ⊠ Not ISIS, — farmers
    ⊠ Not al-Sawra, — Surman
    Still has trust from @DeutscheWelle

    https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/st...06501181530112

    Dictionary
    Russian - Reality

    "We bombed an ISIS oil storage"
    Equals
    "We bombed a civilian grain silo"
    #RussiaLies
    https://twitter.com/obretix/status/672391479634038784

    RUSSIA BOMBING #SAA
    Probably another navigational error due to Russian consumer graded gps in their aircrafts?

    https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/672373902039982080

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    DoS Kerry seems to be on another planet........

    Also, unicorn farming has promising future. Kerry says Syrian ceasefire could lead to IS' defeat in 'months'
    http://ctv.news/QuNDSSj

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    Appears this is all of the evidence Putin had when he accused Erdogan of being involved with IS oil......

    As evidence that Erdogan family benefits from ISIS oil trade Kremlin posted picture of octopus w fistful of cash https://twitter.com/russianembassy/s...22300041437185

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