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    Humor.........

    #Russia's MoD says the #Su24 #FlightRecorder is damaged, data will be presented after it's been faked #Backstabbed
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    Russia open to Assad's ouster after Syria transition. - the Putin trap. Keep regime. Ditch the man. Same rule http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0U032R20151217

    Oh dear GAWD! @CNN is endorsing #Putin & his war on civilians in #Syria.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/17/mi...kva/index.html
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    Unconfirmed reports that Russian jets have again targeted positions of Assad forces by mistake around Marj al-Sultan. #Damascus #Ghouta

    Heavy clashes reported since the morning between Jaish al-Fateh & the ISIS affiliated Shuhada al-Yarmouk around Sahem al-Golan, #Daraa

    7 reported killed in Russian airstrikes on Jisr al-Shugour in #Idlib this morning. (No ISIS here of course). TO include a small new born child that was pulled out of the rubble......


    #AhrarSham BM21 Grad attack on Hmeimeem. #Latakia

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    Diplomats concede the Syrian dictator is unlikely to face war crimes charges any time soon.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/1...e-talks-216911
    In what world would you expect the perpetrator to allow their crimes to be investigated?

    Assad on denying his regimes atrocities: "You want to make investigations, come to Syria"

    Amnesty, HRW & UN monitors are still blocked.

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    Has anyone noticed that when the WH talks about it's inability to have ground forces confront IS THERE is a distinct lack of a conversation around the FSA---and that extends even into the US MSM which all but ignores the FSA who is daily fighting with and gaining ground on IS while being attacked by Assad's SAA which is really just a Shia mercenary army from Hezbollah, Iraqi Shia militia, Iranian IRGC and Shia fighters from 12 different countries.

    BUT not a single thorough well done analysis of the FSA by the US MSM.

    Iyad El-Baghdadi @iyad_elbaghdadi
    The level of trolling is just epic. Syrian foreign ministry: FSA can join Assad's army if it makes some changes. https://twitter.com/RTarabic/status/677808194597572608

    Iyad El-Baghdadi @iyad_elbaghdadi
    The FSA was formed by professional Syrian soldiers who defected from Assad's army. Assad is their first, worst, and forever enemy.

    FSA is slowly but steadily winning and why should they then join a genocidal army under leadership of a genocidal dictator?????

    FSA and the majority of the anti Assad forces have repeatedly stated to the US---help us eliminate Assad and then we can turn our attention to IS..(a Syrian solution against the IS Syrian problem)..this is actually what needs to be done BUT then why does this WH not do it????
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    Hurriyet Daily News @HDNER

    #Turkish banks raided in #Russia over ‘money laundering’ claims
    http://bit.ly/1lW04jQ
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    BUT WAIT Russian money launderers cannot be found anywhere inside Russia.....???

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    RFS report: Russian air attacks on Syrian rebel areas.
    https://youtu.be/jtniQgrA_4k

    At least 38 #IRGC, #Hezbollah & #Iran-backed fighters were killed in #Syria last week by 2 Russia air strikes. Via @sahamnewsorg
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    For those SWJ readers who honesty think that Obama did not create the so called Syrian mess......yes he did---wonder if he and or Kerry would like to respond to Assad's recent interview.......?????

    Assad on @Nieuwsuur interview:
    I was packing my bags to leave but now I stay thanks to Kerry & France
    [who now say Assad is part of solution especially Kerry after his Moscow visit].

    OR
    Assad on the UN & in effect, UN led transition: "The UN is a biased institution..it is under the control of the US"
    http://sana.sy/en/?p=64343

    AND Obama is not the problem....?
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    Ever notice how US MSM articles actually support the Russian info warfare narrative/propaganda pushed by Putin and the Russian MoD when it comes to Turkey.........?

    Doug Bandow
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    Dump New Ottomans from NATO: Shoot Down of Russian Plane Shows Turkey to be Dangerous Ally

    Posted: 12/18/2015 6:40 am EST Updated: 25 minutes ago
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-b...000592&ref=yfp

    Russian #SU24 blackbox data is damaged...
    Of course!
    It would have shown it violated Turkish airspace.
    https://twitter.com/lennutrajektoor/...09844385128448
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia open to Assad's ouster after Syria transition. - the Putin trap. Keep regime. Ditch the man. Same rule http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0U032R20151217

    Oh dear GAWD! @CNN is endorsing #Putin & his war on civilians in #Syria.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/17/mi...kva/index.html
    pic.twitter.com/WlJedSe5Vl
    Mr Chance is 'just taking an objective look' at the Russian military and showing his skills in reporting on military-related affairs:
    The naval power behind Russia's air war
    But this one is better:
    Not long ago, an international journalist being granted this kind of access to an active Russian warship would have been even more of a rarity.
    ...if 'not long ago' means 'before Mr. Chance was born', then sure!

    There follows a series of good jokes:
    ...But the Kremlin's newfound openness around Russian military activities...


    ...it also underlines just how well the Russians perceive their campaign in Syria is going....
    ...here I had to stop typing: got stomachache from LOLing...

    ...Russian defense officials say that since the country entered the Syrian conflict at the end of September, in response to a formal request from Syria's government, it has been able to significantly degrade the capabilities of ISIS and other terror groups, including the al Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front....
    Ah really? Wasn't it Putin who said that the Daesh is spreading since the start of the Russian intervention...?

    And here the it's the cited Russian officer in need of some help:
    "Every day we show you how Russian aviation is fighting Syrian civilians, destroying infrastructure in Syria."
    ...sigh... right after filling a report containing such loads of nonsense, I would've borrowed myself a Yarygin pistol from the nearest Russian Navy officer - and committed a suicide...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Has anyone noticed that when the WH talks about it's inability to have ground forces confront IS THERE is a distinct lack of a conversation around the FSA---and that extends even into the US MSM which all but ignores the FSA who is daily fighting with and gaining ground on IS while being attacked by Assad's SAA which is really just a Shia mercenary army from Hezbollah, Iraqi Shia militia, Iranian IRGC and Shia fighters from 12 different countries.
    Principal problem is that Oblabla needs an excuse to remain 'non-committed'.

    Therefore, 'there's no FSyA, period'.

    If that means one re-deploys parts of the FSyA from eastern to western Turkey (as if Turkey is no sovereign country), and then orders them to cross the border into Kurdish-held enclave in NW Syria, and assaults FSyA-held Azaz - in order to cut-off the insurgent supply-links to Turkey...

    ...or ignores a big concentration of the Daesh only 15km from Turkish border and never flies even a single air strike on it, in order to enable them to attempt the same (assaulting Azaz), but from east...

    ...while ordering Erdogan to close the border to Syria in the area of the Azaz-corridor...

    ...or ignores massaces of Syrian civilians in Azaz area by that Russian air farce (typo is intentional)...

    ... all methods are OK, because these 'non-existing' FSyA are dickheads that are refusing to 'fight Daesh only', and a major obstacle to Vienna talks: because of them (and because of 'Ottomans' too, of course), Putler is provoking by painting US and French aircraft underway over Syria by his SAMs...

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    Syria....right now the Russian mercenaries in eastern Ukraine are complaining they have not been receiving pay and or to little pay and the Shia militias in Syria are complaining about nt being paid as well......

    Russian ruble, stock market crash showing no sign of abating amid declining oil prices
    http://www.unian.info/economics/1216...il-prices.html
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    Sberbank shares, Russian stock indices collapse after Ukraine defaults on "Russian debt"
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    Default BND set to open up shop in Damascus?

    Any truth to this?

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    (From Sputnik)

    In a dramatic move, Germany is set to become the first western nation and NATO member to break ranks and begin cooperating with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and set up an intelligence agency branch in Damascus.

    Although there has been no official announcement, anonymous sources quoted in the German Bild newspaper, confirmed that the federal government is keen to establish a branch of its Federal Intelligence Service (BND) in Damascus in an effort to counter Daesh, also known as Islamic State (IS).

    The source said a decision on the move to renew ties with the Syrian intelligence agencies could be made as early as 2016 and may even involve reopening the German embassy in Damascus, which was closed in February 2012, when the German ambassador was withdrawn.

    The BND is reported to be anxious to quickly set up as a so-called Residentur in the Syrian capital, with a view to permanently stationing staff there.

    There has been a long history of intelligence-sharing between Berlin and Damascus, which Germany believes is an important partner in the fight against radical Islamists.

    Diplomatic relations were broken off in 2012 when, the then Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, expelled the Syrian ambassador from Germany. The German ambassador to Damascus was withdrawn and the embassy closed for safety reasons.

    The IS can be defeated in less than a year if the US and its allies stop supporting rebel fighters, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told Dutch NPO2 television in an interview.

    The US has sponsored and supplied anti-government rebel fighters, including those who do not fight IS, thereby detracting resource from the Syrian army.

    “If the responsible countries take action against the flood and the flowing of terrorists and the logistic support, I can guarantee that it will take less than one year,” Assad said.

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    More signs that Syrian population is starting to starve.
    https://twitter.com/NorthernStork/st...82097437048832

    Reuters Top News ✔ @Reuters
    Obama urges Turkey's Erdogan to withdraw troops from Iraq - White House http://reut.rs/1Qvs4HQ

    The second Russian ORSIS T-5000 bolt-action sniper rifle known to have been captured by fighters of IS, Zawbaa Iraq.
    pic.twitter.com/QBt4OOCj9f

    Riyadh Conference: Regime Unlikely to Accept Newly Unified Opposition’s Position
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    FSA hunting #IslamicState on #Damascus -Baghdad road in desert of eastern Qalamoun
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdCP...ature=youtu.be
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    Now let me carefully point out how fxxxxxxing stupid the UNSC is (excuse my French, there's no sugar coating this anymore)

    This sounds EXACTLY like the deal negotiated by the Arab League in 2012. How's Syria been since then?

    CNN Trk ENG @CNNTURK_ENG
    Draft UNSC reso endorses prev agreed timeline for creating transitional Syrian govt&holding UN-monitored elections.
    pic.twitter.com/UI4Fr7ZNmt

    A UNSC draft resolution means nothing if the armed parties don't agree to it. There's no evidence that will happen https://twitter.com/Interpreter_Mag/...43332908179457

    AND Obamas response is again exactly what.......

    Theres only so much bombing you can do, Obama says of frustration of Syrians with Assad BUT he ignores this......

    Assad comment on reports of torture & HR violations to Dutch TV: "you can pay anyone to tell you any story" "these reports means nothing".
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    VIDEO: Jaish al-Izza hit T-72 tank in Hama. #Syria with TOW missile.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A7PZMxE5BA

    Footage
    Syrian rebels at the #Maan front in #Hama province.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVQM9YRnl28

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Now let me carefully point out how fxxxxxxing stupid the UNSC is (excuse my French, there's no sugar coating this anymore)

    This sounds EXACTLY like the deal negotiated by the Arab League in 2012. How's Syria been since then?

    CNN Trk ENG @CNNTURK_ENG
    Draft UNSC reso endorses prev agreed timeline for creating transitional Syrian govt&holding UN-monitored elections.
    pic.twitter.com/UI4Fr7ZNmt

    A UNSC draft resolution means nothing if the armed parties don't agree to it. There's no evidence that will happen
    https://twitter.com/Interpreter_Mag/...43332908179457

    AND Obamas response is again exactly what.......

    Theres only so much bombing you can do, Obama says of frustration of Syrians with Assad BUT he ignores this......

    Assad comment on reports of torture & HR violations to Dutch TV: "you can pay anyone to tell you any story" "these reports means nothing".
    Russia and the #US discussing list of up to 160 Syrian rebel groups to become "terror organisations" soon - report

    Breaking
    "@UN veto powers agree on #Syria resolution draft" - diplomats
    Declaring 95% of the Syrian opposition "terrorist groups" ?!?!


    BUT no mentioning of Hezbollah, or the 25 Iraqi Shia militias or the Shia mercenaries from 12 countries Or the IRGC is there......

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    Footage
    #RussianAirstrikes aimed at civilians in #JisrAlShughur today, hitting children
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4HsjA0Bd6U

    Footage
    Effects of #RussianAirStrikes on civilians in #TallRifat overnight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywJs2crdGmw

    UN Syrian negotiator says opposition wants transition without Assad:
    http://reut.rs/1OcgryL

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    Turkey's self-produced "Bayraktar TB2" UAV succesfully completes shooting test with two Mızrak-U missiles.

    Photos: Inside a Syrian field hospital in Douma - @BassamKhabieh
    http://widerimage.reuters.com/story/...pital-in-douma

    Up to nine Russian contractors die in Syria, experts say. @tggrove reports on a secret chapter in the Syria war:
    http://on.wsj.com/1OdvH4R
    Actually now at least 50 plus........

    The is the quintessential Obama.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/1...me-plan-216922
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    This pseudo-Islamic State has as much with Sunni Islam as me with Vanuatu: nothing at all.
    I beg to differ. The Islamic State, like Al Qaeda before it, is the tip of the spear of Sunni supremacism.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Nobody can issue a 100% written guarantee there would be no attrocities against Alawites, probably some of other that openly sided with Assad too (including Christians and Druze). There's too much blood sticking on their hands, no doubt. But, that's all within realms of 'if'.
    So you're hinting at collective punishment?



    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Firstly, Assad converted to Sunni Islam. Secondly, the notion that Alawites are some sort of 'Shia offshot' is wrong, and disproven since long (i.e.: they are none).
    Regardless, Iran feels that the Alawites are close enough to be a chess piece in their Thirty Year War.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    I prefer Syrians (and Iraqis) - no matter of their ethnic or religious backgrounds - being left on their own to elect their own representatives in free elections.
    But do a separate Syria and Iraq even make sense now? Iraqi Sunni Arabs would be better off with their Syrian co-ethnics and co-religionists, and the Alawites would be better off as part of Lebanon...


    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    While I've got no clue what kind of 'current occuppiers of Kurds' do you mean here... can only say: yes, of course they deserve their own state - or at least should get one (finally).
    Turkey, Iran and Iraq.

    Jewish minorities throughout Europe played and were played by foreign powers throughout their period of statelessness. They also played and were played by majority populations. This was all part of the game of survival. The end result was tragedy until the creation of Israel.

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