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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia killed 100's of civilians in Syria & fabricated info to deflect criticism. New report
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...lian-killings/ … pic.twitter.com/TNhurMXYKx

    THIS is the evidence that I am right that the entire Western political leadership has basically lost their combined way forward when it comes to the killing by Russia of hundreds of civilians......

    See Russia's main argument, international community!!!
    You fail(ed) so much, France, German, US & co.
    pic.twitter.com/0zs6Id39ll

    THIS is exactly just how bad the Obama WH global leadership has fallen to.

    #BREAKING
    Russian Federation Council’s Committee on Defense & Security DARES to call @amnesty report "provocation".


    12 ppl killed in this toxic gas attack okayed by #UNSC resolution 2254 provided political cover for Assad, Iran & Russia to massacre Syrians

    Developing: Reports - 10 killed, 30+ wounded in chemical attack on #Damascus suburb
    http://eaworldview.com/2015/12/syria...near-damascus/
    Sarin was the chemical used in this attack.....

    There have been 60+ small scale govt chemical attacks on frontline rebel towns/defences over last year
    IN addition to use of chemical weapons and WP on civilian targets......
    Russia should stop defending the use of banned cluster munitions.
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/12/23/...contradictions

    BUT WAIT both cluster munitions and WP were used against the Ukrainian Armed Forces/civilians AND the WEST said nothing......

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    Another new serial at Hmeymim - Su-34 "24 Red":

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    Confirms that the FSA is sharing their weapons support to the Syrian jihadi led side and the jihadi is listening to the FSA.....has been reported several times in the last two months since Putin engaged into Syria......

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...west-syria.php

    The Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), an al Qaeda-linked Uighur jihadist group, has posted a photo to social media claiming its fighters recently used at least one US-made TOW anti-tank missile against Syrian regime forces in northwestern Syria. This photo is part of a wider release from the strategic Al Ghab plain in northern Hama province.

    The photo above was released on one of the TIP’s official Twitter accounts with an English caption saying, “The Turkistani mujahideen brothers deliver a strong response to the Nusayri [derogatory term referring to the Assad regime] army by the Russians.” However, it is unclear if the jihadist group is actually using the American-made missile. It is entirely possible that a TOW-supplied rebel group belonging to the Free Syrian Army (FSA) was operating alongside the TIP at the time of the photo. While many jihadist groups, including al Qaeda’s official branch in the country, operate in the Al Ghab plain, several FSA groups operate alongside these forces against the Assad regime and its allies.

    If the missile was operated by an FSA group, this would offer more evidence that TOW-supplied rebel groups continue to support jihadist operations in the country.
    Notice the slant of the article--I would have expected more The Long War which has been a stable reporting platform from Iraq and AFG.

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    IslamicState carried out 4 attacks with vehicle bombs on regime positions in #DeirEzzor city- heavy street clashes since morning

    View to #Rastan #Hospital in northern #Homs
    oldest static frontline in #Syria war
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8OzbZzpyVc

    SYRIA: ’No future’ for Kurdish forces in Syria, says lawmaker close to Assad
    ttp://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/22122015 …
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    VIDEO: Amazing drone footage shows destruction in Jobar, #Damascus #Syria - @RT_com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJtrBg8TQaM

    NOTICE that the Russian info warfare media outlet Russian today releases this without comment but the underlying unsaid narrative is "see what the terrorists have done to Syria AND Assad is trying to save it......
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    Russian non linear warfare at work..........

    Turkish Kurds are capitalizing on Ankara-Moscow crisis: Co-leader of HDP Demirtas is in Moscow to meet with Lavrov


    Main Russia Propaganda Medium has map saying "REBEL targets destroyed", instead of #ISIS.
    https://twitter.com/ReggaeMortis1/st...37694188785664

    Now the Putin truth comes out via Russian info war nedia......

    Main Russia Propaganda Medium has map saying "REBEL targets destroyed", instead of #ISIS.
    https://twitter.com/ReggaeMortis1/st...37694188785664

    Notice the not so subtle narrative shift by the Russians after the UNSC resolution was passed.....
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    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/f...s-trump-obama/

    The Putin Appeasement Consensus

    Jonathan S. Tobin / Dec. 22, 2015

    In the last few days, Donald Trump has been bitterly criticized for his bizarre defense of Russia President Vladimir Putin. We may have thought we’d heard everything in a crazy political year, but having a Republican presidential candidate speak of that authoritarian thug as being morally equivalent to the United States was something so outrageous that it should have been unthinkable for even a Trump.

    That Trump would claim in television interviews that America also kills journalists or that nobody has proved that Putin kills people (surely a surprising notion to the people of Chechnya or Ukraine) was disgraceful, but it is actually consistent with the things he has been saying about Russia throughout the campaign. Even as responsible thinkers, as well as some of his more thoughtful rivals, are forced to once again condemn the GOP frontrunner, it’s just as important to acknowledge that he isn’t the only one who is soft on the man who would be Tsar. What’s really interesting about Trump’s statements is that it shows once again that he is far more in tune with President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s ideas about foreign policy than the consensus of the Republican Party he wants to lead.

    Trump’s bouquet sent to Putin after he was reportedly praised by the Russian seemed to reflect the egotistic billionaire’s always-fragile sense of self-worth when he issued a statement boasting about how flattered he was to be, “so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond.” But while the ensuing kerfuffle about his defense of Putin became an issue in and of itself, the real problem has been his willingness to appease Russia’s desires to reconstitute the old Tsarist and Soviet empires. Trump has stated all along that he had no problem with Putin’s insertion of his forces into the Syrian civil war. Nor has he recognized the inherent threat to European democracy that is posed by the Russian invasion of Crimea, its war in eastern Ukraine or its threats against the Baltic states. In Trump’s view, Putin has always been a fellow tough guy with whom he could do business rather than a man whose main foreign policy goal has been to thwart the U.S. and undermine its security.

    That’s a curious frame of reference for someone whose presidential candidacy has been based a sense of grievance against the outside world and the desire to “make America great again.” Though Trump and his admirers have an almost religious faith in his ability to make miraculous deals, his approach to Russia is invariably one in which he gives away the store to the Russians on all of their key demands in Europe and the Middle East in exchange for nothing that is real of any value.

    Yet the most astonishing element of that stance isn’t just that it is the antithesis of making America great but that it is very much in tune with the policy the Obama administration has been pursuing with Russia throughout the last seven years.

    What is Trump’s belief in his ability to make a bargain with Putin other than a recycled version of Hillary Clinton’s comical “reset” of relations with Russia? But, of course, it goes far beyond that. Obama sought to appease Russia by not defending Eastern European democracies such as the Czech Republic and Poland and refusing to aid a beleaguered Ukraine. Rather than keep Russia out of the Middle East, he has tacitly welcomed it and the result are travesties like the Syrian peace deal he has agreed to that won’t bring peace but does ensure that Russia and Iran will be able to protect the Assad regime while doing little to stop ISIS.

    Though he spoke of turning back the oceans rather than making America great, the conceit of Barack Obama’s foreign policy has also been the function of a belief in his own greatness. Obama believed his personality was so magnetic, his intentions were so noble and his historic stature so immense that hostile nations like Russia and Iran would drop their hostility and do business with his America. The collapse of American foreign policy on his watch as the U.S. has alienated allies and earned the contempt of its enemies was not just a function of bad decisions and feckless policies but of the mistaken faith that one man’s magical personality could fix what was wrong with the nation’s problems. If Obama’s self-conceit and unwillingness to admit error has earned him the contempt of conservatives, what should they think about a candidate that has a similar point of view about himself?

    It has been pointed out often enough in the past few months that, outside of his stance on immigration, Trump’s stands are curiously closer to those of liberal Democrats than of the conservative Republicans whose votes he seeks. But on no issue is that more true than that of Russia. Whereas most Republicans now think back about the 2012 presidential campaign where Obama poured scorn on Mitt Romney’s correct labeling of Russia as a geostrategic threat as a tragic reminder of how disastrous the president’s reelection has proved to be, Trump seems to be offering us a third term of the same foreign policy. That a plurality of those calling themselves Republicans should be so enraged with their party’s failings and so charmed by Trump as to make him the party’s presidential frontrunner is an act of colossal and inexplicable cognitive dissonance.

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    #Russia's Ministry of Defense: "Turkey admits the downing of SU-24 was pre-planned."
    This will be news to #Turkey.

    pic.twitter.com/bsT0rsUqzW

    Source: http://ria.ru/world/20151223/1347648825.html

    Humor...........
    Poll: Have #Russia's Missiles of Peace or #Assad's Barrel Bombs of Love ever killed a civilian?

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    "Don't believe your lying eyes, trust us!" - says #Russia's Ministry of Defense. What cluster bombs? They have none!
    https://twitter.com/ReggaeMortis1/st...03515615375360

    Courtesy to @APulkki,@ReggaeMortis1 in no effort reminding #Russian MOD use of RBK-500 CBU. https://twitter.com/APulkki/status/679692389158641664
    pic.twitter.com/6c0xFGEd9i

    And the crowning glory of #Russia's denials:
    They don't even have cluster bombs everyone saw them using in #Syria!

    pic.twitter.com/zYjOHSX5Md

    Russia's Ministry of Defense: Amnesty should name its whistleblowers!
    (The Kremlin wants to send them some tea).

    pic.twitter.com/IRMWOYuXJX

    Sputnik's interns post more of #Russia's lame propaganda:
    "Reports on civilian deaths in #Syria are a provocation!"
    pic.twitter.com/mrrfGIQWWM
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    RuAF airstrike on a fuel tanker column in #Aleppo located
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTg9Uv94-Yg … pic.twitter.com/4N4fAcqjdJ
    pic.twitter.com/tjYcCDWmgf

    Source: http://novosti.dn.ua/details/266361/

    RuAF airstrike on Jihadist training camp in #Idlib located
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0PX19Q14s … … pic.twitter.com/7UuJlgmj2z

    Reports regime army and shia militia backed by RuAF took al-Nuba Mount in #Latakia countryside for the second time in one week.

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    Reference Russian info warfare trolls........

    Kremlin Trolls @KremlinTrolls
    When fired intern w/ no knowledge of region or languages is exposed, #KremlinTrolls complain of “divided community”
    pic.twitter.com/0LTPKfas3R

    Massive LiveJournal #KremlinTrolls Network Pushes Pro-#Kremlin Narratives.
    https://globalvoices.org/2015/12/22/...in-narratives/

    Kremlin Trolls ‏@KremlinTrolls
    #KremlinTrolls scream "harassment" when they're outed. Real harassment is what they do to #Putin opposition.

    Kremlin Trolls ‏@KremlinTrolls
    #KremlinTrolls can't keep their story straight - they have families everywhere & speak/dont speak various languages

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference Russian info warfare trolls........

    Kremlin Trolls @KremlinTrolls
    When fired intern w/ no knowledge of region or languages is exposed, #KremlinTrolls complain of “divided community”
    pic.twitter.com/0LTPKfas3R

    Massive LiveJournal #KremlinTrolls Network Pushes Pro-#Kremlin Narratives.
    https://globalvoices.org/2015/12/22/...in-narratives/

    Kremlin Trolls ‏@KremlinTrolls
    #KremlinTrolls scream "harassment" when they're outed. Real harassment is what they do to #Putin opposition.

    Kremlin Trolls ‏@KremlinTrolls
    #KremlinTrolls can't keep their story straight - they have families everywhere & speak/dont speak various languages
    Russia trying to make fetch happen with the #FakeAI hashtag aimed against Amnesty International's new report. https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...34443465113601

    Минобороны России 
    ‏@mod_russia #FAKEAI Amnesty International, reveal who and when provided you with this so-called data or it will be done by the Rus MoD itself

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia ·
    #SYRIA Representatives of respectful mass media, do not put at risk your reputation by publishing fakes provided by anonymous sources


    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia
    #FAKEAI Having published the brief Western Media missed hypothetic rhetoric's and gave everything as facts

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia ·
    #SYRIA #FAKEAI Briefing is made in a well-known style: same clichés and fakes, referring's to impersonal sources and no evidence

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia · 28m28 minutes ago
    #SYRIA #FAKEAI Rusian Defence Ministry made deep research on briefing of the non-governmental organization Amnesty International
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-23-2015 at 07:05 PM.

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    Humor.......
    Amnesty: #Russia's own #SantaClaus uses fighter jets to drop clusters of presents for civilians in #Syria #FAKEAI

    pic.twitter.com/Bp81fqfdXW

    Anonymous expert: Amnesty's report is obviously 146% fake as the investigation wasn't done by #Russia #FAKEAI
    pic.twitter.com/zXg1zLijlX

    MoD: #Media risks its reputation by publishing fakes from sources like "Carlos the Air Traffic Controller" #FAKEAI
    pic.twitter.com/qWFm7pMmPJ
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-23-2015 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia trying to make fetch happen with the #FakeAI hashtag aimed against Amnesty International's new report. https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...34443465113601

    Минобороны России 
    ‏@mod_russia #FAKEAI Amnesty International, reveal who and when provided you with this so-called data or it will be done by the Rus MoD itself

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia ·
    #SYRIA Representatives of respectful mass media, do not put at risk your reputation by publishing fakes provided by anonymous sources


    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia
    #FAKEAI Having published the brief Western Media missed hypothetic rhetoric's and gave everything as facts

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia ·
    #SYRIA #FAKEAI Briefing is made in a well-known style: same clichés and fakes, referring's to impersonal sources and no evidence

    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia · 28m28 minutes ago
    #SYRIA #FAKEAI Rusian Defence Ministry made deep research on briefing of the non-governmental organization Amnesty International
    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The fact is that for the @mod_russia lying about killing civilians is just day to day business, they're just not very good at it


    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    In this example they lied about the date of aerial footage they showed off in their daily briefing #fakeAI
    https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...34210165346304

    bellingcat @bellingcat
    If the @mod_russia wants to keep lying, we're happy to keep fact checking them #fakeAI


    Russia's Ministry of Defense should be saying this to notorious Russian media (if it wasn't operating as its arm).
    pic.twitter.com/UOvto2mSuy

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The @mod_russia's attempt to popularise the #fakeAI hashtag to attack Amnesty International appears to have backfired (unsurprisingly)
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    Unconfirmed reports Jabhat al-Nusra stormed a position of al-Sarout group accused of having links with #ISIL in Ghanto #Homs.

    Rebels still not using masses of #IED's to slow the shia push S-Aleppo. Refuse to learn from #ISIS that stopped the same Iraqi shia this way

    ->@LizSly on #Putin's campaign to depopulate rebel areas by Terror:
    Russian airstrikes force a halt to aid in Syria
    http://wpo.st/jSGz0

    Since Russia intervened on SEPT 30, well over 100,000 Syrians have been displaced. Moscow continuing Assad/Iran's expulsion policy

    Impressions from #Nusra's trenches in Latakia mtns.
    https://youtu.be/7MYfdiAvKnQ

    In #Syria this year ...
    - 50,000 civilians killed
    - 1m people driven out
    - 2-3 million displaced internally
    ... overwhelmingly by Assad/Iran


    Assad's cultural vandalism gets less attention than IS's: his helicopters attack a Roman amphitheater in Deraa.
    http://mme.cm/HNAW00

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    Humor........

    MoD posts video of locals celebrating #Russia's airstrike which Amnesty says "killed civilians" in #Syria #FAKEAI

    pic.twitter.com/fdMtAKJOgG

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The fact is that for the @mod_russia lying about killing civilians is just day to day business, they're just not very good at it


    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    In this example they lied about the date of aerial footage they showed off in their daily briefing #fakeAI
    https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...34210165346304

    bellingcat @bellingcat
    If the @mod_russia wants to keep lying, we're happy to keep fact checking them #fakeAI


    Russia's Ministry of Defense should be saying this to notorious Russian media (if it wasn't operating as its arm).
    pic.twitter.com/UOvto2mSuy

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The @mod_russia's attempt to popularise the #fakeAI hashtag to attack Amnesty International appears to have backfired (unsurprisingly)
    That's why #Russia conceals markings on its bombers in #Syria — plausible deniability. "It wasn't us. Not our bombs"
    pic.twitter.com/vmcX8zQ7df

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    That's why #Russia conceals markings on its bombers in #Syria — plausible deniability. "It wasn't us. Not our bombs"
    pic.twitter.com/vmcX8zQ7df
    What Russians are doing in Syria has actually nothing in common with description 'military' any more - but in this case I can't but conclude that Higgins is simply wrong.

    Yes, the first batches of Su-24s, Su-25s, Su-30s and Su-34s deployed in Syria have had their national markings overpainted.

    But, meanwhile, at least national markings and most of service titles have been re-applied.

    So, no 'plausible deniability': the HQ 58th Army knows exactly what are they doing (in cooperation with Ba'ath Party HQ in Damascus) to Syrian civilians.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it's their pilots that have no clue what are they actually 'bombing', though.

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    In post-modernist news, Russian foreign minister says Russia and Taliban share the goal of defeating the ISIS. http://www.rbc.ru/politics/23/12/201...7947cbeb18e6c6

    Jihadists were doing this in Bosnia 20+ years ago, just like in #Syria+Iraq now. The MSM hid this reality from you.
    pic.twitter.com/4F8TCpEUtC

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    Russia warplanes carried out airstirkes targeting #Muller Factory in #al_Rashdin #Aleppo #Syria Dec 23

    The newly formed Islamic State Air Force using Russian pilots struck with bombs a center of a major IS training camp today.........or so the Russian MoD claimed but we know they are lying on just about anything....

    Russia warplanes carried out airstrikes on Women's Obstetric Hospital in #Huraytan #Aleppo #Syria Dec 23

    SCD trying to extinguish fire of Women's Obstetric Hospital due #Russia airstrikes
    #Huraytan #Aleppo #Syria Dec 23


    Smoke due #SAA airstrikes on al-Ghantu town #Homs
    http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2015/2...antu-town-homs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6GDbTwMno

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